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One can only admire his soaring rhetoric on withdrawal of funding for neighbouring states and the possible closure of the border with Mexico. Given the tortuous mental reasoning it can only be a matter of time before he moves to protect Americans from the dangers posed by the sun and by oxygen
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I actually heard a young dumb and full of cum hitler youth haircut-sporting wanker in a supermarket this morning saying this is a good thing, and "If it was Obama, he would fund these places and install dictators".


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Digby wrote:One can only admire his soaring rhetoric on withdrawal of funding for neighbouring states and the possible closure of the border with Mexico. Given the tortuous mental reasoning it can only be a matter of time before he moves to protect Americans from the dangers posed by the sun and by oxygen
I stand corrected having said funding was being cut to three neighbouring states, money is actually being cut from three Mexican countries
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Geography...not so much in USandA...
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I really try not to pay attention to this stuff anymore but sometimes you can't help but laugh.

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Mikey Brown wrote:I really try not to pay attention to this stuff anymore but sometimes you can't help but laugh.

Obviously his plan involves vitamin C and the eradication of scurvy.

Knowing his government, they'll end up distributing Colleen Fitzpatrick records.
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Moving on from his confusion from using complex words like origin Trump announces his father was German, and unsurprisingly not only German but was born in a very great place in Germany. His father was born in New York
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Digby wrote:Moving on from his confusion from using complex words like origin Trump announces his father was German, and unsurprisingly not only German but was born in a very great place in Germany. His father was born in New York
Maybe he got confused be wise his grandfather was German.
And grand is just another word for great, and everyone knows that Trump's father must have been great, he was related to Trump, of course.
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Which Tyler wrote:
Digby wrote:Moving on from his confusion from using complex words like origin Trump announces his father was German, and unsurprisingly not only German but was born in a very great place in Germany. His father was born in New York
Maybe he got confused be wise his grandfather was German.
And grand is just another word for great, and everyone knows that Trump's father must have been great, he was related to Trump, of course.
It's possible he spouts all this nonsense on purpose so the press cover his gaffs not his policies
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Are we going to comment on the whole "windmill noise causes cancer" thing?

Morepork might be under sedatives after reading that one.
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Which Tyler wrote:
Digby wrote:Moving on from his confusion from using complex words like origin Trump announces his father was German, and unsurprisingly not only German but was born in a very great place in Germany. His father was born in New York
Maybe he got confused be wise his grandfather was German.
And grand is just another word for great, and everyone knows that Trump's father must have been great, he was related to Trump, of course.
He's been watching The Man in the High Castle and got a bit confused about New York being the Capital of the Greater Nazi Reich.
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gransoporro wrote:Are we going to comment on the whole "windmill noise causes cancer" thing?

Morepork might be under sedatives after reading that one.
Verbatim:

If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value,” Trump said. “And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one, okay? Rerrrr rerrrr!”
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morepork wrote:
gransoporro wrote:Are we going to comment on the whole "windmill noise causes cancer" thing?

Morepork might be under sedatives after reading that one.
Verbatim:

If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value,” Trump said. “And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one, okay? Rerrrr rerrrr!”
And how do you feel about it?

Keep in mind that I have the Berlusconi vaccination, so I am not that shocked as I used to be 2-3 decades ago. I just laugh these days...
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gransoporro wrote:
morepork wrote:
gransoporro wrote:Are we going to comment on the whole "windmill noise causes cancer" thing?

Morepork might be under sedatives after reading that one.
Verbatim:

If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value,” Trump said. “And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one, okay? Rerrrr rerrrr!”
And how do you feel about it?

Keep in mind that I have the Berlusconi vaccination, so I am not that shocked as I used to be 2-3 decades ago. I just laugh these days...
Yeah I’ve been told this is exactly what your lot lived through with Burlusconi. It’s just so difficult to imagine a man like that (knowingly) putting this distraction strategy to use.
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I'm not shocked. It is amusing to watch him struggle to find words for concepts he has no understanding of, all the while sweating on being busted as a pig ignorant fat sweaty thick cunt. My beef is with the social media nightmare that made it possible for as cretinous an individual as he to be considered in any way shape or form fit for public office. We are in the middle of a social devolution and he is the orange face of it. Make shit up. Counter with conspiracy. Deny facts. Pass responsibility elsewhere. REPEAT.
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Mikey Brown wrote:
gransoporro wrote:
morepork wrote:
Verbatim:

If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value,” Trump said. “And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one, okay? Rerrrr rerrrr!”
And how do you feel about it?

Keep in mind that I have the Berlusconi vaccination, so I am not that shocked as I used to be 2-3 decades ago. I just laugh these days...
Yeah I’ve been told this is exactly what your lot lived through with Burlusconi. It’s just so difficult to imagine a man like that (knowingly) putting this distraction strategy to use.
I don't think it is a distraction strategy. It works like that, but the guy is really like this. No mysterious additional depths.
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It's just possible windmills create enough noise they might disturb sleep, and it does seem sleep isn't something many take seriously enough across a range of health issues. And if he wants to address health concerns arising from power generation that's great. Still, coal!
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Digby wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
Digby wrote:Moving on from his confusion from using complex words like origin Trump announces his father was German, and unsurprisingly not only German but was born in a very great place in Germany. His father was born in New York
Maybe he got confused be wise his grandfather was German.
And grand is just another word for great, and everyone knows that Trump's father must have been great, he was related to Trump, of course.
It's possible he spouts all this nonsense on purpose so the press cover his gaffs not his policies
No chance. He really is as thick as he comes across.
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WaspInWales wrote:
Digby wrote:
Which Tyler wrote: Maybe he got confused be wise his grandfather was German.
And grand is just another word for great, and everyone knows that Trump's father must have been great, he was related to Trump, of course.
It's possible he spouts all this nonsense on purpose so the press cover his gaffs not his policies
No chance. He really is as thick as he comes across.

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Slightly outdated now, but I thought this was an excellent article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/opin ... e=Homepage
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Eliashberg wrote:Slightly outdated now, but I thought this was an excellent article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/opin ... e=Homepage
I agree with all of that. No point just ignoring what led to his success and saying he's a fluke, cause that's what'll see him win another term in 2020.

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I don't really see how Trump can win in 2020. He lost the popular vote last time around and has worked hard to alienate some of the groups who voted for him.

Then again I confidently asserted nobody would be stupid enough to make him their nominee and certainly nobody would be stupid enough to make him president. And there's still little identified as to what the Dems will stand on other than not being Trump. Also Trump might just be getting started on the politics of fear, who knows where this ends up if a mob mentality takes over
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Puja wrote:
Eliashberg wrote:Slightly outdated now, but I thought this was an excellent article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/opin ... e=Homepage
I agree with all of that. No point just ignoring what led to his success and saying he's a fluke, cause that's what'll see him win another term in 2020.

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The Democrats will hopefully take some responsiblity for their failure in 2016 and provide more room for progressive candidates. Taking responsibility is a hard thing for Americans though, hence the Adderall.
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Digby wrote:I don't really see how Trump can win in 2020. He lost the popular vote last time around and has worked hard to alienate some of the groups who voted for him.
I'm not so sure. The 2016 election was more the result of Democrats screwing it up rather than Trump winning it, although he would disagree with that.

Clinton isn't just hated with the inbred rednecks; her shady role in international arms trade, and her earnings through series of speeches at Goldman Sachs and frankly, yet much more questionable environments, haven't made her much beloved among progressives in the USA. Naomi Klein wrote a gem of an article just after Trump was elected:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ricas-fate

The candidate coming from the Democrats will be better this time round, so that gives hope. But the whole Mueller probe has severely dented public trust in mainstream political media (NYT, WP, Wall Street Journal etc.) what with them superficially and brainlessly hyping the whole thing. Probed by a refusal to accept that Trump is a result of deeper problems, rather than the cause, of course. Trump will milk this, and rumors are that he wants to join the Correspondents Dinner this year. People are already composing the predictable jokes he'll make , like "sorry I wasn't there for the past two years, but I was too busy plotting with Vladimir Putin in your imaginations".

A combination of him milking this little victory on the Mueller probe, and another Wall Street candidate from the Democrats could win it again for Trump.
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I've never gotten the impression voters who typically vote Democratic hate Clinton, more she's just not appealing to huge numbers. She certainly turned out to be a much weaker candidate than I'd expected
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