Lizard wrote:Now that would be fun. Two fairly equally loathsome candidates with a contested result. How does the SCOTUS bench split on hanging chads?
It won't be contested. They can just flip the tallies in a couple of big battleground states. That's what they did in 2004 and Kerry quickly conceded, even though the Ohio result was clearly manufactured.
La Clinton is in no position to contest because her machine has been doing it in the primaries and will probably do some on the general, albeit in states that won't swing a close call in her favour.
And despite what the authoritarians in the other Fred would say, this isn't 'conspiracy theory' or conjecture. This is the reality of the polling system in the US.
It's crooked as fuck.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
The DNC have acted like Clinton has a right to the presidency, and I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Shillary and Trump both have extremely low approval ratings, but Shillary's has built up over a long period of time, is engrained and you feel will be harder to shake.
Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).
jared_7 wrote:The DNC have acted like Clinton has a right to the presidency, and I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Shillary and Trump both have extremely low approval ratings, but Shillary's has built up over a long period of time, is engrained and you feel will be harder to shake.
Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).
UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.
How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.
How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?
Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.
The FBI might yet have a say in it.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
jared_7 wrote:How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.
How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?
Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.
The FBI might yet have a say in it.
Did you see what happened in Nevada? Unbelievable (well, maybe not)
jared_7 wrote:
How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.
Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?
Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.
The FBI might yet have a say in it.
Did you see what happened in Nevada? Unbelievable (well, maybe not)
All that violence that didn't actually happen?
The DNC is nuts.
As for the maths. There are mathematic 'theories' on both sides, they are not the same as mathematical facts. I asked for maths.
Coco wrote:
Mmmm... Original Recipe, too. Who doesn't like KFC??? It's comfort food.
It's vile, poor quality chicken prepared with too much salt, ill spiced, and cooked greasy in cheap and nasty oil. I think I last had KFC in around 2007, bought on the way home whilst a little under the influence. Next day the lounge stank as I'd left most of it untouched on the coffee table. I remember it as it turns out condensation will form under the bag and you can mark a coffee table leaving such, which some people may choose to remark on, and then you get to go furniture shopping
Coco wrote:
Mmmm... Original Recipe, too. Who doesn't like KFC??? It's comfort food.
It's vile, poor quality chicken prepared with too much salt, ill spiced, and cooked greasy in cheap and nasty oil. I think I last had KFC in around 2007, bought on the way home whilst a little under the influence. Next day the lounge stank as I'd left most of it untouched on the coffee table. I remember it as it turns out condensation will form under the bag and you can mark a coffee table leaving such, which some people may choose to remark on, and then you get to go furniture shopping
So, vile food for a vile man.
You're just a party pooper Digby. Plain and simple.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
