Trump

[Digby]

Basically this entire thing is evidence 1001 why I would never live in America

And yet you live in a dictatorship, and that's not even a joke anymore, it's a full on dictatorship with jail sentences for speaking the truth and everything

Yep.

But I’m already here and they don’t have guns. We’re looking to change the system here first, if we can’t, we’ve already thought of our exit plans.

I'm pleased you've got a route out, I was just thinking if I had a choice about which to live in tomorrow I'd be picking the US without question

[Stom]

And yet you live in a dictatorship, and that's not even a joke anymore, it's a full on dictatorship with jail sentences for speaking the truth and everything

Yep.

But I’m already here and they don’t have guns. We’re looking to change the system here first, if we can’t, we’ve already thought of our exit plans.

I'm pleased you've got a route out, I was just thinking if I had a choice about which to live in tomorrow I'd be picking the US without question

We’ve already established that, despite a similar taste in booze, we’re rather different people...

[Mikey Brown]

Haha. This is a gripping back and forth here.

Does this mean I have gone mad?

[morepork]

You are all cretins.

[Digby]

You are all cretins.

We probably all played rugby, and I doubt many of us can remember many clever individuals in the game

[morepork]

Oopsies.



18 tones out, 80 tones, from the same destination in
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

A masterclass in management

[Digby]

If it's not just a photo op they might both be sending stuff the other lot want/need

[morepork]

I think no matter the perspective this is viewed from, things could have be done more efficiently than they in fact were. Send masks to China, claim “no problem”, blame China for the shortfall in masks, then import masks from China. David Brent masterclass.

[morepork]

Basically this entire thing is evidence 1001 why I would never live in America

you will be thrilled to learn that gun shops have been recategorised as "essential businesses" following some fierce lobbying. Perfect storm.

[Digby]

I think no matter the perspective this is viewed from, things could have be done more efficiently than they in fact were. Send masks to China, claim “no problem”, blame China for the shortfall in masks, then import masks from China. David Brent masterclass.

If they're just sending the same things back and forth it's not only a pointless photo op it's actually a dangerous misuse of time, but it might be more specific and useful

But at least you know you'll be able to shoot the virus, so there's that

[Sandydragon]

Basically this entire thing is evidence 1001 why I would never live in America

you will be thrilled to learn that gun shops have been recategorised as "essential businesses" following some fierce lobbying. Perfect storm.

The media here is picking up on 'isolation murders', which is the new big thing. There have been a handful so far of murders and murder suicides which have been (allegedly) caused by or exacerbated by the current quarantine rules.

I wonder how many gun nuts will use quarantine measures in the US as an excuse to go on a killing spree? Putting people with mental health issues into a stressful situation and allowing them to buy firearms and ammunition in bulk is an interesting policy.

[Digby]

Seoul is 38m above sea level, though among those who know best they say almost the entire country resides in Seoul.

[Mikey Brown]

So had Biden just given up pretending he even gives a shit, or is he doing something that I just missed?

[Sandydragon]

So had Biden just given up pretending he even gives a shit, or is he doing something that I just missed?

Apparently he is giving basement addresses which aren't being taken up by the media. However, his polling is still doing well despite the focus on Trump during this emergency so he may decide doing fuck all is preferable to actually appearing in public.

[Sandydragon]

Seoul is 38m above sea level, though among those who know best they say almost the entire country resides in Seoul.

Started drinking early?

[Digby]

Seoul is 38m above sea level, though among those who know best they say almost the entire country resides in Seoul.

Started drinking early?

"I know South Korea better than anybody,"

"It's a very tight - do you know how many people are in Seoul? Do you know how big the city of Seoul is? 38 million people. That's bigger than anything we have."

You'll have to guess who actually vomited out the above word salad, names will not be released to protect the stable genius. Somehow it feeds into an answer about how the US is handling Covid-19 when compared to South Korea and the US is doing well cause they've got large areas with nobody in it, say much of Wyoming, and the nobody in those big areas don't have the disease so go USA!

The bit about elevation is that's the figure for their altitude on the Wiki page for Seoul, and it's possible the man who knows more about South Korea than anyone else has confused 38m with 38 million and accidentally not noticed his utterly nonsensical claims about how many people might live in Seoul if he just employed a tiny bit of common sense and had pause for thought before naming Seoul as the most populated city on earth. Tokyo would be close to the figure of 38 million for its population, and that's going to depend on where one draws the outer markers of a city.

And no, sadly I haven't started drinking early, I'm cutting the grass. I'm also looking up when the next collection for garden waste is and wondering if I can get away without going to the dump

[Sandydragon]

Seoul is 38m above sea level, though among those who know best they say almost the entire country resides in Seoul.

Started drinking early?

"I know South Korea better than anybody,"

"It's a very tight - do you know how many people are in Seoul? Do you know how big the city of Seoul is? 38 million people. That's bigger than anything we have."

You'll have to guess who actually vomited out the above word salad, names will not be released to protect the stable genius. Somehow it feeds into an answer about how the US is handling Covid-19 when compared to South Korea and the US is doing well cause they've got large areas with nobody in it, say much of Wyoming, and the nobody in those big areas don't have the disease so go USA!

The bit about elevation is that's the figure for their altitude on the Wiki page for Seoul, and it's possible the man who knows more about South Korea than anyone else has confused 38m with 38 million and accidentally not noticed his utterly nonsensical claims about how many people might live in Seoul if he just employed a tiny bit of common sense and had pause for thought before naming Seoul as the most populated city on earth. Tokyo would be close to the figure of 38 million for its population, and that's going to depend on where one draws the outer markers of a city.

And no, sadly I haven't started drinking early, I'm cutting the grass. I'm also looking up when the next collection for garden waste is and wondering if I can get away without going to the dump

I see. I had missed the latest musings from the Orange Genius and Greatest Presidente of all Time.

[Digby]

I see. I had missed the latest musings from the Orange Genius and Greatest Presidente of all Time.

it isn't easy keeping up with his musings, there's so much to learn from the man

[Sandydragon]

Indeed. The last few years has been a revelation; like some kind of mass experiment. I'm not sure that was ever the intention but psychologists will have enough information to pour over for decades.

[Mikey Brown]

Just listened to an interview with an American nurse talking about the state of things in an Oakland hospital. No idea how representative of others that is, but he spoke to Trump’s systematic dismantling of standards across the board since his term began, allowing him to state that they’re meeting requirements when really they’ve just been lowering the bar. Frontline healthcare workers now using fucking bin bags as makeshift protection in lieu of any proper PPE.

Grim. I really hope this cunt either fucks off or dies soon.

I doubt he’s really the creator of any of these initiatives but he’s been a very useful figurehead to allow it. What a piece of shit he is.

[morepork]

yesterdays one featured some Category 5 orange fellatio by a jebus weirdo textile magnate.

“God gave us grace on November 8, 2016, to change the course we were on,” Lindell began, referencing the day Trump was elected president. “Taken out of our schools and lives, a nation had turned its back on God.”


Then some shit about using the time to "read our bibles".

A floundering medieval backwater shithole where a wealthy industrialised nation should be.

Growing calls for the media to boycott showing the whole hour-plus whine-fest, and produce something edited/constructive for public consumption.

[Digby]

From a conference call on Monday between some of the US state governors and the Whitehouse and following a governor saying they were short of testing kits, short of ppe, and unable to find markets to correct that a stable genius said

'I haven't heard about testing in weeks. we've tested more now than any nation in the world, we've got these great tests and we're coming out with another one tomorrow where it's almost instantaneous testing. but I haven't heard about testing being a problem'

Who is he not listening to that he doesn't know what even one of the most basic problems is, or is he simply flay out lying? This ongoing portrail of everything as though he was Dr Pangloss (if it relates to him) is just bizarre, and at this time dangerous.

[Sandydragon]

Trump has found time to have a pop at Boris Johnson and the UK response to COVID19. Pot, kettle and black.

[Digby]

That we were too slow responding, we've shuttered too much, we didn't buy enough US cars to protect our ventilators?

[morepork]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Jared Kushner is now the face of the US pandemic response effort. What a fucking joke. Now we get sound bites from Dr. Jared's extensive research on FaceBook. Dr. Jared says:

“We’ve done things that the government has never done before, quicker than they’ve ever done it before and what we’re seeing now is we found a lot of supplies in the country,” he said. “We’ve been distributing them where we anticipate there will be needs and also trying to make sure that we’re hitting places where there are needs.”

The allocation of resources, Kushner said, is based on data submitted by cities and states. But Kushner made a point to note that many of the requests are influenced by predicted estimates, which he said are “not the realistic projections.”

“What you have all over the country is a lot of people are asking for things that they don’t necessarily need at the moment,” he said.

Dr. Jared is suggesting sacrificing preparedness for an extremely inappropriate interpretation of government as an off-shoot love child of supply-side economics and terminal pig ignorance. It can all be parsed out in a power point presentation about "management".



This state of affairs is completely unacceptable. For the love of God, stand aside and let actual expertise guide the response. This is past being comical.