America

[Mikey Brown]

Damn. I’d read about this part but actually seeing it is something else.



What is it about this system that breeds/nurtures sociopaths in this way? Is it just the size of the country and the extent of the media coverage that makes the number of incidents like this stand out? Is this just what happens to normal when given this kind of power?

This demented obsession with guns, the military, a notion of patriotism/justice/honour that exists purely to justify lethal force, seems to run so deep in so many.

I certainly don’t think this sort of thing is unique to America, not even close, but it still feels like the US view themselves as the standard bearers of modern, civilised, free society.

[Son of Mathonwy]

I certainly don’t think this sort of thing is unique to America, not even close, but it still feels like the US view themselves as the standard bearers of modern, civilised, free society.

There's a strong correlation between thinking you're the best and behaving like an arsehole.

[Eugene Wrayburn]

Damn. I’d read about this part but actually seeing it is something else.



What is it about this system that breeds/nurtures sociopaths in this way? Is it just the size of the country and the extent of the media coverage that makes the number of incidents like this stand out? Is this just what happens to normal when given this kind of power?

This demented obsession with guns, the military, a notion of patriotism/justice/honour that exists purely to justify lethal force, seems to run so deep in so many.

I certainly don’t think this sort of thing is unique to America, not even close, but it still feels like the US view themselves as the standard bearers of modern, civilised, free society.

It's a complete lack of accountability. That's why the policing discussion here and in the States should be absolutely poles apart. Our system of accountability is pretty sophisticated. There's is non-existent.

[morepork]

[Mikey Brown]

Umm...



Seen enough of these now to think it isn’t just some freak of occurrence.

[morepork]

Are these surfacing on social media only?

[Digby]

Loving the Georgia governor taking some of his own cities/mayors to court to argue they can't enforce a requirement for people to wear masks, and is doing so to help people survive (and by people he means businesses)

Sort of an interesting case because the state trumps the local areas, but the mayors might have localised police powers in a pandemic that entitle them to enforce a ruling on masks anyway. It does rather beg the question of haven't you got anything better to be doing than contesting a requirement for masks? If you want to support state businesses in light of the need to wear masks issue free masks

[Mikey Brown]

Are these surfacing on social media only?

I don't know what sort of answer you even want to that. Has this happened in front of a TV news crew or a journalist? I have no idea. Is it actually what it appears to be? It would seem like something worth checking.

[morepork]

Are these surfacing on social media only?

I don't know what sort of answer you even want to that. Has this happened in front of a TV news crew or a journalist? I have no idea. Is it actually what it appears to be? It would seem like something worth checking.

You answered it. Worth checking? Fuck yes.

[Puja]

Are these surfacing on social media only?

I don't know what sort of answer you even want to that. Has this happened in front of a TV news crew or a journalist? I have no idea. Is it actually what it appears to be? It would seem like something worth checking.

You answered it. Worth checking? Fuck yes.

Limited coverage elsewhere. This was all I found: https://www.opb.org/news/article/federa ... protesters

Puja

[Which Tyler]

https://www.thecity.nyc/2020/7/14/21324 ... tan-subway

A police officer punched and dragged a homeless man who was allegedly taking up more than one seat on a near-empty subway train in Manhattan, body camera video from May shows.

But Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance is charging the bloodied man with felony assault, punishable by up to seven years in prison, for allegedly kicking the officer’s hand while the cop tried to cuff him on the platform of the Midtown station.

...


Saha said in a criminal complaint that Long told him Joseph kicked his right hand while the officers attempted to cuff the ejected rider on the platform. Long, according to Saha, “sustained swelling and substantial pain to the knuckles of his right hand and was transported to the hospital.”
“He informs me that because of the swelling he is unable to open and close his hand without experiencing pain,” Saha said.

It's called a boxer's fracture - and yet get it from punching someone in the face with inadequate hand protection - not from someone kicking your hand away.

ETA: Apparently Vance is the same DA who refused to prosecute Harvey Weinstein due to a lack of evidence.

[morepork]

RIP John Lewis. We really could use your grit and wisdom right now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45875045

[canta_brian]

This is the judge who was assigned to the civil case looking at Deutchse Bank and it’s ties to Epstein etc. 4 days ago btw. Anyone still believe Epstein committed suicide?

[Mikey Brown]

Time for Kanye to step up and blow the lid off this thing.

[Sandydragon]

Portland, WTF?!?!!!

[paddy no 11]

This is the judge who was assigned to the civil case looking at Deutchse Bank and it’s ties to Epstein etc. 4 days ago btw. Anyone still believe Epstein committed suicide?

Literally anyone could have done this, dont see how the deutsche bank thing is relevant - but spell it out to me by all means (they endlessly floated trump aswell)

[Digby]

This is the judge who was assigned to the civil case looking at Deutchse Bank and it’s ties to Epstein etc. 4 days ago btw. Anyone still believe Epstein committed suicide?

Literally anyone could have done this, dont see how the deutsche bank thing is relevant - but spell it out to me by all means (they endlessly floated trump aswell)

Yeah there's little to be gained from relying on conjecture.

[Puja]

"50 years ago, I would have pulled you from your car and hung you on a tree."



America, ladies and gentlemen.

Puja

[morepork]

Fat cracker cunt.

But...the statues....

[canta_brian]

This is the judge who was assigned to the civil case looking at Deutchse Bank and it’s ties to Epstein etc. 4 days ago btw. Anyone still believe Epstein committed suicide?

Literally anyone could have done this, dont see how the deutsche bank thing is relevant - but spell it out to me by all means (they endlessly floated trump aswell)

Yeah there's little to be gained from relying on conjecture.

You’re probably right. I expect we will never know. Suspect will probably have “suicided” by now.

[Puja]

Literally anyone could have done this, dont see how the deutsche bank thing is relevant - but spell it out to me by all means (they endlessly floated trump aswell)

Yeah there's little to be gained from relying on conjecture.

You’re probably right. I expect we will never know. Suspect will probably have “suicided” by now.

Out of interest, have you seen the news and are being sarcastic, or is that just really fun timing?

Puja

[canta_brian]

Yeah there's little to be gained from relying on conjecture.

You’re probably right. I expect we will never know. Suspect will probably have “suicided” by now.

Out of interest, have you seen the news and are being sarcastic, or is that just really fun timing?

Puja

I am a superforecaster in much the same way as Cummings is.

[Mikey Brown]

“It’s gonna be a lot of fun beating the hell out of these s---heads once the sun goes down and nobody can tell us apart!!!!”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... protester/

I feel like this kind of story barely even raises an eyebrow anymore, but there you go.

[paddy no 11]

“It’s gonna be a lot of fun beating the hell out of these s---heads once the sun goes down and nobody can tell us apart!!!!”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... protester/

I feel like this kind of story barely even raises an eyebrow anymore, but there you go.

Shocking, hopefully a proper jail sentence for all involved

[morepork]

It's insane that martial law is stealthily being imposed in a thinly veiled attempt to cover the canvas with a cartoon culture war, all in an effort to discredit the fundamental reason for civil unrest, which ironically is being reinforced by systemic police brutality.

On a related note, I would suspect that some private security firms have been contracted by the government to crack heads in the name of statues. Something like Blackwater security founded by the brother of current Education secretary Betsy DeVos, for example...

How much resource has been spunked away in the effort to suppress legitimate civil rights concerns that could otherwise have been used to test and trace, provide a safety net for the needlessly unemployed, and coordinate a global effort to treat the pest?

This is a nightmare.