Aotearoa New Zillund Overdue Uluctions Thread

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Thanks for writing these Cas. I don't have much to add myself, but it's a really interesting read.

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Ahahahaha. That Ponsonby Rd. episode was fucking gold. What an utter long drop of a campaign.
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Thought this might belong here...

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zer0 wrote:
morepork wrote:This is going to sound opportunist, but are any formal long term studies of the effects of this going on? Employment, crime, social behavior all a few years down the track would likely be affected by this.
There's on-going longitudinal studies -- like the Dunedin Study, Growing Up in NZ, and Pacific Island Families -- that will catch some things, but don't think anything specific has been whipped up.
People murder their parents so i don t think it's emotive misinformation to suggest some vile people will pressurise there parent s into eutheniseing themselves

Needs to be serious safeguards in place to prevent horrible shit happening
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change your will and now off to dignitas type situations occur
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paddy no 11 wrote:
zer0 wrote:
morepork wrote:This is going to sound opportunist, but are any formal long term studies of the effects of this going on? Employment, crime, social behavior all a few years down the track would likely be affected by this.
There's on-going longitudinal studies -- like the Dunedin Study, Growing Up in NZ, and Pacific Island Families -- that will catch some things, but don't think anything specific has been whipped up.
People murder their parents so i don t think it's emotive misinformation to suggest some vile people will pressurise there parent s into eutheniseing themselves

Needs to be serious safeguards in place to prevent horrible shit happening
Yeah nah bro, it's a total free-for-all brah! Gonna round up all the old ones and kill the fuck out of them!

Tell you what, we'll let you know when we see people getting pressured into euthanising themselves, yeah?
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cashead wrote:
paddy no 11 wrote:
zer0 wrote:
There's on-going longitudinal studies -- like the Dunedin Study, Growing Up in NZ, and Pacific Island Families -- that will catch some things, but don't think anything specific has been whipped up.
People murder their parents so i don t think it's emotive misinformation to suggest some vile people will pressurise there parent s into eutheniseing themselves

Needs to be serious safeguards in place to prevent horrible shit happening
Yeah nah bro, it's a total free-for-all brah! Gonna round up all the old ones and kill the fuck out of them!

Tell you what, we'll let you know when we see people getting pressured into euthanising themselves, yeah?
Just keep shouting as loud as you can it's all you know
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paddy no 11 wrote:
cashead wrote:
paddy no 11 wrote:
People murder their parents so i don t think it's emotive misinformation to suggest some vile people will pressurise there parent s into eutheniseing themselves

Needs to be serious safeguards in place to prevent horrible shit happening
Yeah nah bro, it's a total free-for-all brah! Gonna round up all the old ones and kill the fuck out of them!

Tell you what, we'll let you know when we see people getting pressured into euthanising themselves, yeah?
Just keep shouting as loud as you can it's all you know
"sAfeGuaRds ArE nEeDed oR PeoPlE WilL kIlL tHeIr ParEntS!"

It's almost as if there's a select committee phase where these sorts of things are discussed and included in the legislation, which you could have looked up in the amount of time it took you to write that asinine bullshit you kramered into this thread with like the sanctimonious dipshit that you are.
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go fuck yourself - you are the one who started throwing shit with emotive disinformation as if death isn't an emotive issue

Take a look at yourself when it comes to sanctimonious - you just disparage the other side in your post with misinformation comment....cas is on the right side of this and thats all

The end of life is worth debating srsly
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Then do some basic research on the matter, you stupid cunt. The contents of the fucking bill is a publicly available document and is only a google search away.
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Emotive disinformation are your words

You attacked the people on the other side of the argument to you unnecessarily

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paddy no 11 wrote:Emotive disinformation are your words

You attacked the people on the other side of the argument to you unnecessarily

You're a cunt cas
"A bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo you didn't use the words that I approve of a bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo"

Because heaven forbid anyone refer to "presenting deliberate misinformation couched in terms designed to appeal to emotion" as "emotive misinformation." Can't be havin' that, now can we?
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Cas, Paddy, enough already. Wind your necks in please.

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Stom wrote:Thought this might belong here...

This video, potentially relevant to NZ, is not available in NZ. Classic.
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Or here, in USandA.

WTF is it?
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I shall wildly speculate that it can only be Stom's favourite trap porno. Obviously far too wild for anyone outside of Eastern Europe, hence the censorship in Un Zud and 'MURICA.
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Stom wrote:Thought this might belong here...

OK, cool. What is it?
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Ah, sorry guys. It's the new Spitting Image and the section I'd posted was a song about New Zealand I thought was funny. I'll see if I can find it unrestricted.
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Stom wrote:Ah, sorry guys. It's the new Spitting Image and the section I'd posted was a song about New Zealand I thought was funny. I'll see if I can find it unrestricted.
That is pretty funny to be fair. A better sketch than Trumps arse.
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Sandydragon wrote:
Stom wrote:Ah, sorry guys. It's the new Spitting Image and the section I'd posted was a song about New Zealand I thought was funny. I'll see if I can find it unrestricted.
That is pretty funny to be fair. A better sketch than Trumps arse.
It was funny. Almost as good as the Piri Patel ones.
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Ah, yeah - the programme was hit and miss, but the SuperKiwiSocialisticExtraNiceJacinda was one of its better moments
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Lads, it's a fucking bloodbath.

Also, National are losing so hard, they've locked their Twitter.

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Seems they won't need the Greens, which is unfortunate and not really how MMP is supposed to work. But at least we'll now get to see how much of the general handbraking was Winnie and how much was Labour itself. I suspect a disappointingly large amount of the latter, unfortunately.
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It is unprecedented, and as you said, it's not meant to happen under MMP. Hopefully it'll be a C&S arrangement to keep it at 70+. It'll also be interesting to see what happens with the Maori Party, who look like they've gotten back in via the Waiariki electorate.
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