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Snap General Election called
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I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.Sandydragon wrote:He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.Zhivago wrote:The only palatable candidate is Wallace. All others are trash.
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I agree - he'd be purrfectWhich Tyler wrote:I've said it before (twice), and I'll say it again - Larry Mouser for PMZhivago wrote:The only palatable candidate is Wallace. All others are trash.
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Dear God will the man not take the hint and just fuck off?!
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I’d like him to have some proper ministerial responsibility first, so one for the future.Zhivago wrote:I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.Sandydragon wrote:He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.Zhivago wrote:The only palatable candidate is Wallace. All others are trash.
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It looks like Boris hasn’t submitted his resignation to the queen. I assumed that he needed to speak to the palace first and once the queen had accepted his resignation, then brief the media etc.
Instead he has promised to resign once a new leader is found. I’m sure May and Cameron both resigned as prime minister and agreed to continue until a replacement was found. Why do I have a feeling that Boris is trying to pull a fast one?
Instead he has promised to resign once a new leader is found. I’m sure May and Cameron both resigned as prime minister and agreed to continue until a replacement was found. Why do I have a feeling that Boris is trying to pull a fast one?
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cos he's a liarSandydragon wrote:It looks like Boris hasn’t submitted his resignation to the queen. I assumed that he needed to speak to the palace first and once the queen had accepted his resignation, then brief the media etc.
Instead he has promised to resign once a new leader is found. I’m sure May and Cameron both resigned as prime minister and agreed to continue until a replacement was found. Why do I have a feeling that Boris is trying to pull a fast one?
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If he is forced out of office before 30 July, he well be hoping the new incumbent is of a generous nature ..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 18263.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 18263.html
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Send him the billGalfon wrote:If he is forced out of office before 30 July, he well be hoping the new incumbent is of a generous nature ..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 18263.html
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Ben Wallace as PMSandydragon wrote:I’d like him to have some proper ministerial responsibility first, so one for the future.Zhivago wrote:I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.Sandydragon wrote: He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.
Tom Tugendhat as Home Secretary
Tobias Ellwood as Defence Secretary
Lucy Allan as Chancellor
Richard Graham as Foreign Secretary
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So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?
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Looks like it..Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'
'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)
As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?Galfon wrote:Looks like it..Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'
'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)
As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
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I had assumed this was in the t&c’s when we signed up? If I need to state it every time I make a post I’m not 100% on I’m going to have to tell the family they won’t be seeing as much of me.Puja wrote: I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
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Here’s his pitch:Sandydragon wrote:I’d like him to have some proper ministerial responsibility first, so one for the future.Zhivago wrote:I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.Sandydragon wrote: He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -minister/
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Its no lose for labour tbh- the vote if carried leads to an election the tories can't win (not least cos Boris would probs be leader) and if as more likely doesn't win, they can just point to Tories voting to keep Boris at the helm, even if as caretaker.Puja wrote:I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?Galfon wrote:Looks like it..Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'
'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)
As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
Puja
Meanwhile, Rome is burning.
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You’ve seen the covid rates on the continent thenBanquo wrote: Meanwhile, Rome is burning.
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aye, gone a bit bonkersMellsblue wrote:You’ve seen the covid rates on the continent thenBanquo wrote: Meanwhile, Rome is burning.
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Yes, I think the 2/3s bit was all about the fixed term act. Traditionally, losing a no confidence vote by any margin was enoughPuja wrote:I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?Galfon wrote:Looks like it..Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'
'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)
As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
Puja
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FFS, you both need to try harder. This board demands perfection or else the inability to admit to not being entirely correct all of the time!Mellsblue wrote:I had assumed this was in the t&c’s when we signed up? If I need to state it every time I make a post I’m not 100% on I’m going to have to tell the family they won’t be seeing as much of me.Puja wrote: I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
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Is the FTA fully obliterated?Sandydragon wrote:Yes, I think the 2/3s bit was all about the fixed term act. Traditionally, losing a no confidence vote by any margin was enoughPuja wrote:I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?Galfon wrote: Looks like it..
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'
'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)
As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
Puja
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it appears so, this year..Banquo wrote:Is the FTA fully obliterated?Sandydragon wrote:Yes, I think the 2/3s bit was all about the fixed term act. Traditionally, losing a no confidence vote by any margin was enoughPuja wrote:
I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?
I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.
Puja
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/trie ... s-restored
standing corrected
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The first line of the Dissolution and Calling of Parliaments Act is that the FTA is repealed, with no exceptions identified. Everything seems to point towards it being a simple majority of the votes cast.