Who is buying our news coverage ?
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Who is buying our news coverage ?
We've all know for many years that all of our national newspapers are running at a massive loss (even The Guardian and The Independent).
They have huge mounting debt from which none of them will ever recover. Print is a dead industry but like a wounded animal they are still very dangerous. Owned by specious and nefarious organizations of corporate psychopaths and yet their presence somehow is reassuring to many people as a representation of continuity and familiarity. How would your old Dad feel if his daily copy of The Times, The Telegraph, The Express, The Mail, The Guardian or even The FT were to disappear in the same fashion as The News of the World.
So when GB News launched a couple of years ago, I didn't think much about it. Andrew Neil said GBNews had enough money to broadcast for 6 months after which the station would have to pay for itself through advertising revenue. £60 million. 3 months after they launched Andrew Neil left the channel claiming it was a farce. Talk TV was launched earlier this year and it's the same brand of scum
I have been watching a bit of GBNews and TalkTV, by way of keeping an open mind, and their advertising revenue is bollocks. So, I decided to do a bit of research to see if the internet could tell me who was actually funding these opinion channels that are masquerading as news outlets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB_News#: ... leaning%22.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TalkTV_(B ... The%20Talk.
They have huge mounting debt from which none of them will ever recover. Print is a dead industry but like a wounded animal they are still very dangerous. Owned by specious and nefarious organizations of corporate psychopaths and yet their presence somehow is reassuring to many people as a representation of continuity and familiarity. How would your old Dad feel if his daily copy of The Times, The Telegraph, The Express, The Mail, The Guardian or even The FT were to disappear in the same fashion as The News of the World.
So when GB News launched a couple of years ago, I didn't think much about it. Andrew Neil said GBNews had enough money to broadcast for 6 months after which the station would have to pay for itself through advertising revenue. £60 million. 3 months after they launched Andrew Neil left the channel claiming it was a farce. Talk TV was launched earlier this year and it's the same brand of scum
I have been watching a bit of GBNews and TalkTV, by way of keeping an open mind, and their advertising revenue is bollocks. So, I decided to do a bit of research to see if the internet could tell me who was actually funding these opinion channels that are masquerading as news outlets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB_News#: ... leaning%22.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TalkTV_(B ... The%20Talk.
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Youre just now figuring this out? Its all crap.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
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who wants to know?cashead wrote:Is that why you voted for a fascist?Coco wrote:Youre just now figuring this out? Its all crap.
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Awwwee cashead... quit flirting with me... its embarrassing.cashead wrote:Not seeing a denial that you voted for a fascist.Coco wrote:who wants to know?cashead wrote: Is that why you voted for a fascist?
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No denial.cashead wrote:Not seeing a denial that you voted for a fascist.Coco wrote:who wants to know?cashead wrote: Is that why you voted for a fascist?
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cashead... Please be more specific... who is a fascist, and what is TERFy?... slang of some sort? Im not hip with the kids apparently. Would you please explain?cashead wrote:Is this your attempt at deflecting a question about you voting for a fascist?Coco wrote:Awwwee cashead... quit flirting with me... its embarrassing.cashead wrote: Not seeing a denial that you voted for a fascist.
Also, letting you know now as a courtesy, since you have a history of posting TERFy shit, that will no longer be tolerated.
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Really? Is this the sort of community we want to be?cashead wrote:Do you not have access to Google? Let's try not sealioning, because I assure you, if you intend to fuck around, you will find out.Coco wrote:cashead... Please be more specific... who is a fascist, and what is TERFy?... slang of some sort? Im not hip with the kids apparently. Would you please explain?cashead wrote: Is this your attempt at deflecting a question about you voting for a fascist?
Also, letting you know now as a courtesy, since you have a history of posting TERFy shit, that will no longer be tolerated.
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Yes this will bring people to the boards to discuss the issues of the day, no mistakecashead wrote:Considering your established track record when it comes to transphobia and TERF shit, deciding to wade in isn’t the smartest decision you’ve made.Donny osmond wrote:Really? Is this the sort of community we want to be?cashead wrote: Do you not have access to Google? Let's try not sealioning, because I assure you, if you intend to fuck around, you will find out.
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Please...no more imported fake culture wars. "Fake Gnus", "woke", legislation by theocracy, blaming immigrants for the former....they can all fuck off.
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I do have Google, but asked you to please explain what you meant by your comment.... specifically, and now youve threatened me out of the blue. What the heck is sealioning... Are you ok?cashead wrote:Do you not have access to Google? Let's try not sealioning, because I assure you, if you intend to fuck around, you will find out.Coco wrote:cashead... Please be more specific... who is a fascist, and what is TERFy?... slang of some sort? Im not hip with the kids apparently. Would you please explain?cashead wrote: Is this your attempt at deflecting a question about you voting for a fascist?
Also, letting you know now as a courtesy, since you have a history of posting TERFy shit, that will no longer be tolerated.
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
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Thats not what you said or how you said it cashead.cashead wrote:If you’ve got access to a search engine, then go look it up.Coco wrote:I do have Google, but asked you to please explain what you meant by your comment.... specifically, and now youve threatened me out of the blue. What the heck is sealioning... Are you ok?cashead wrote: Do you not have access to Google? Let's try not sealioning, because I assure you, if you intend to fuck around, you will find out.
And if you find that being told “punching down at a vulnerable community that was previously inexplicably tolerated no longer will be” to be “threatening,” then have a think about what that says about you.
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Nah, no clarity in that... I asked you what you meant but you wont explain your own comment... told me to use Google. I cant take you serious.cashead wrote:Written here, as clear as day.Coco wrote:Thats not what you said or how you said it cashead.cashead wrote: If you’ve got access to a search engine, then go look it up.
And if you find that being told “punching down at a vulnerable community that was previously inexplicably tolerated no longer will be” to be “threatening,” then have a think about what that says about you.
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Also, letting you know now as a courtesy, since you have a history of posting TERFy shit, that will no longer be tolerated.
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I looked up "TERF".. sounds derogatory, did you mean it that way, cashead? OR, can I possibly be just a woman, stating my feeling, life experience as a woman, and opinions stemming from my experiences? I also went through the thread you spoke of (from 2019), looking for "TERFy shit" that I "have a habit of posting". I could not find anything, other than saying that I, as a woman, am uncomfortable being referred to as a "cis-female". I stand by that, still. I am just a woman, or female. Was there something else I said in that thread that upset you, or that justified you calling me TERFy, cashead? If so, please let me know.cashead wrote:If you don’t know what a TERF is, despite having posted previously in the TERF thread, then that’s on you, not me.Coco wrote:Nah, no clarity in that... I asked you what you meant but you wont explain your own comment... told me to use Google. I cant take you serious.cashead wrote:
Written here, as clear as day.
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Im asking so I understand what upset you.cashead wrote:Holy shit, word-for-word TERF talking points. Point. Fucking. Proven.
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Also, any even slight google should tell you that TERF is not an insult, but is actually coined by the people who wanted to be known as that. Personally, I'm a fan of the term FART (Feminism Appropriating Reactionary Transphobe), which is far more enjoyable and accurate, but I do tend to prefer letting people choose their own label.
Claiming TERF as an insult is a form of faux-moral outrage about how mean the other people are being when you're *just* *asking* *questions* - oh so hurtful, so much for the tolerant left! I mean, I'm assuming you wouldn't know anything about such tactics, given you are *genuinely* an innocent naif who is just asking questions. So, rest assured, referring to you as a TERF is not the place where people are insulting you.
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Claiming TERF as an insult is a form of faux-moral outrage about how mean the other people are being when you're *just* *asking* *questions* - oh so hurtful, so much for the tolerant left! I mean, I'm assuming you wouldn't know anything about such tactics, given you are *genuinely* an innocent naif who is just asking questions. So, rest assured, referring to you as a TERF is not the place where people are insulting you.
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Actually, I'd say that TERF, like Woke (obviously, not in content) and various other labels, is typically used as a badge of pride for some, and an insult for others.
I'd also suggest that it simply doesn't mean what it's acronym suggests it means. Plenty of TERFs are barely feminist, let alone radically so - so yes, FART is a much better acronym for those.
I'd also suggest that it simply doesn't mean what it's acronym suggests it means. Plenty of TERFs are barely feminist, let alone radically so - so yes, FART is a much better acronym for those.
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Surely that's the same hand - another bonuscashead wrote:On the other hand, FARTs get really angry when they're called TERFs.
It also consumes them and they get big-time brainworm infections as well.
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The difference is that no-one called themselves "Woke" (or "Politically Correct") as a compliment - they started off as terms poking fun before being weaponised by the right. I don't believe anyone uses them as an unironic badge of pride.Which Tyler wrote:Actually, I'd say that TERF, like Woke (obviously, not in content) and various other labels, is typically used as a badge of pride for some, and an insult for others.
I'd also suggest that it simply doesn't mean what it's acronym suggests it means. Plenty of TERFs are barely feminist, let alone radically so - so yes, FART is a much better acronym for those.
TERFs named themselves. Plus, it's not used as an insult in terms of it meaning something else or something untrue to the wielder. It means exactly the same to me as it does to a TERF - they discriminate against a minority because they think they're awful and don't want them to exist - we both are calling the same thing the same thing, the difference is that I think that it's reprehensible and they think it's fine.
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A] I'm pretty sure it was the other way around with woke - being a self-designation before being an attack weapon.Puja wrote:The difference is that no-one called themselves "Woke" (or "Politically Correct") as a compliment - they started off as terms poking fun before being weaponised by the right. I don't believe anyone uses them as an unironic badge of pride.
B] You're absolutely wrong about anyone using it as an unironic badge of pride. I certainly do, and have for a few years, and I know plenty of others who self-identify as "woke" it literally means "Awake to the plight of others"
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Huh. I stand corrected.Which Tyler wrote:A] I'm pretty sure it was the other way around with woke - being a self-designation before being an attack weapon.Puja wrote:The difference is that no-one called themselves "Woke" (or "Politically Correct") as a compliment - they started off as terms poking fun before being weaponised by the right. I don't believe anyone uses them as an unironic badge of pride.
B] You're absolutely wrong about anyone using it as an unironic badge of pride. I certainly do, and have for a few years, and I know plenty of others who self-identify as "woke" it literally means "Awake to the plight of others"
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You derailed this thread. You don't deserve to be a mod. You should have had this out with Coco via PMs.cashead wrote:Is this your attempt at deflecting a question about you voting for a fascist?Coco wrote:Awwwee cashead... quit flirting with me... its embarrassing.cashead wrote: Not seeing a denial that you voted for a fascist.
Also, letting you know now as a courtesy, since you have a history of posting TERFy shit, that will no longer be tolerated.
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What's this sealioning? Please educate us o wise one.cashead wrote:Do you not have access to Google? Let's try not sealioning, because I assure you, if you intend to fuck around, you will find out.Coco wrote:cashead... Please be more specific... who is a fascist, and what is TERFy?... slang of some sort? Im not hip with the kids apparently. Would you please explain?cashead wrote: Is this your attempt at deflecting a question about you voting for a fascist?
Also, letting you know now as a courtesy, since you have a history of posting TERFy shit, that will no longer be tolerated.
I mean I googled it of course, but I think you're not using the term correctly.
Pretty sure Coco wasn't sealioning, she just wanted to know why you randomly started attacking her.
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I'm just shocked that Hammy made you a mod. I can't understand the logic. Maybe the cost of running this place is getting too much. He must want to reduce the traffic.cashead wrote:Follow your own advice and take it to PMs, brave defender.Zhivago wrote:What's this sealioning? Please educate us o wise one.cashead wrote: Do you not have access to Google? Let's try not sealioning, because I assure you, if you intend to fuck around, you will find out.
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Blimey. I hadn't realized this shit had kicked off.
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I think that was the first ban Ive ever had here! Somehow a thread about terrible world news coverage turned in to a thread about trans terfy sealion farts or something. The mind boggles.
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