America

[Which Tyler]

Here's what he was interrupting

The Department of Homeland Security and the officers and the agencies and the departments and the military people that are working on this operation will continue to sustain and increase our operations in this city. We are not going away. We are staying here to liberate this city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor had placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city.’

[Sandydragon]

That’s bloody awful. The Independent covered it, but not seen anything on what happened next.

I did read that one court had ordered the return of the Californian national guard to governor control, but that a federal court had quickly reversed that.

[Son of Mathonwy]

That’s bloody awful. The Independent covered it, but not seen anything on what happened next.

I did read that one court had ordered the return of the Californian national guard to governor control, but that a federal court had quickly reversed that.

Yep, Trump keeps control of the national guard for now. Not sure where this leads . . . presumably to the Supreme Court, eventually, who will confirm the President's power to do whatever he likes?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... os-angeles

[Sandydragon]

I’ve just read the NYT report on the court appeal which is a bit clearer.

The first federal court agreed with the governor and required command of the national guard to be returned to state control. Trump administration immediately appealed and the first decision was postponed pending the appeal being heard.

It’s looking like LAPD have got the situation well in hand so I’d expect trump to stand down the national guard and claim victory before he potentially loses another court case.

[Which Tyler]

Florida sheriff warns anti-ICE protesters ‘we will kill you’ if you so much as ‘throw a brick’
“If you try to mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it, refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you’re most likely going to get run over and dragged across the street,” the Republican sheriff said during the immigration news conference.

“If you spit on us, you’re going to the hospital, then jail. If you hit one of us, you’re going to the hospital, jail, and most likely get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs we have here,” Ivey warned.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Florida sheriff warns anti-ICE protesters ‘we will kill you’ if you so much as ‘throw a brick’
“If you try to mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it, refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you’re most likely going to get run over and dragged across the street,” the Republican sheriff said during the immigration news conference.

“If you spit on us, you’re going to the hospital, then jail. If you hit one of us, you’re going to the hospital, jail, and most likely get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs we have here,” Ivey warned.

Police state. But also, reading the comments, a really violent country . . . too many people who see their opponents as objects to be crushed. Too much aggression, not enough empathy.

[Sandydragon]

Florida sheriff warns anti-ICE protesters ‘we will kill you’ if you so much as ‘throw a brick’
“If you try to mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it, refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you’re most likely going to get run over and dragged across the street,” the Republican sheriff said during the immigration news conference.

“If you spit on us, you’re going to the hospital, then jail. If you hit one of us, you’re going to the hospital, jail, and most likely get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs we have here,” Ivey warned.

Police state. But also, reading the comments, a really violent country . . . too many people who see their opponents as objects to be crushed. Too much aggression, not enough empathy.

Modern politics. We get the same over here but with less obvious violence. Tory scum for example. The days of consensus politics are largely dead.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Florida sheriff warns anti-ICE protesters ‘we will kill you’ if you so much as ‘throw a brick’
“If you try to mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it, refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you’re most likely going to get run over and dragged across the street,” the Republican sheriff said during the immigration news conference.

“If you spit on us, you’re going to the hospital, then jail. If you hit one of us, you’re going to the hospital, jail, and most likely get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs we have here,” Ivey warned.

Police state. But also, reading the comments, a really violent country . . . too many people who see their opponents as objects to be crushed. Too much aggression, not enough empathy.

Modern politics. We get the same over here but with less obvious violence. Tory scum for example. The days of consensus politics are largely dead.

But violence is the point of difference. Therefore it's not the same here. (Yet?)

[Which Tyler]

Democratic state politician and husband shot dead in targeted attack, Minnesota officials say

[Donny osmond]

Police state. But also, reading the comments, a really violent country . . . too many people who see their opponents as objects to be crushed. Too much aggression, not enough empathy.

Modern politics. We get the same over here but with less obvious violence. Tory scum for example. The days of consensus politics are largely dead.

But violence is the point of difference. Therefore it's not the same here. (Yet?)

No its not the same... yet. But we are headed in the same direction, for the same reasons: an inability to accept alternative points of view; an emotional immaturity that thinks disagreement means hatred.

And now, as WT has just posted, political assassinations are being carried out in the US, which we've seen here over the past number of years too. We're going in the wrong direction and no one - public or politician - seems willing to change course.

[Sandydragon]

Police state. But also, reading the comments, a really violent country . . . too many people who see their opponents as objects to be crushed. Too much aggression, not enough empathy.

Modern politics. We get the same over here but with less obvious violence. Tory scum for example. The days of consensus politics are largely dead.

But violence is the point of difference. Therefore it's not the same here. (Yet?)

Agreed, a reflection of American culture and the mass ownership of firearms. Although with two MPs murdered in the past decade, we’re not in a position to get too complacent. There’s enough idiots on this country, n both sides of the spectrum. Thankfully it’s much harder to get a firearm.

[paddy no 11]

Watched about 30 seconds of starmer and Trump in banff there...... ..Starmer was revelling in his rim licking role

[Danno]

Watched about 30 seconds of starmer and Trump in banff there...... ..Starmer was revelling in his rim licking role

He's such a cretin. I almost preferred Johnson, at least you knew he was a vile bastard long before he gained any sort of power

[Son of Mathonwy]

Trump enriches himself (his no. 1 goal) and exposes the US economy (and the world's) to deregulated crypto.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... corruption

Trump will die rich but when crypto goes down it'll be like 2008 all over again.

[paddy no 11]

Is Netanyahu going to do something terrible in Iran, the evacuate Tehran thing is worrying

[Sandydragon]

Is Netanyahu going to do something terrible in Iran, the evacuate Tehran thing is worrying

Netanyahu apparently wanted to go for direct regime change, but the Americans instructed him not to. Perhaps they were thinking of going ahead anyway, but I doubt the Iranian leadership is staying still long enough to be targeted via air strike.

Trump has a habit of talking bollocks and since he is increasingly losing whatever marbles he had in the first place, he may be confused.

Looking at the latest news it’s quite possible that the US will launch a strike of their own.

[Banquo]

Is Netanyahu going to do something terrible in Iran, the evacuate Tehran thing is worrying

Netanyahu apparently wanted to go for direct regime change, but the Americans instructed him not to. Perhaps they were thinking of going ahead anyway, but I doubt the Iranian leadership is staying still long enough to be targeted via air strike.

Trump has a habit of talking bollocks and since he is increasingly losing whatever marbles he had in the first place, he may be confused.

Looking at the latest news it’s quite possible that the US will launch a strike of their own.

Its tricky to tell, but the Don looks increasingly, properly demented.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Is Netanyahu going to do something terrible in Iran, the evacuate Tehran thing is worrying

Netanyahu apparently wanted to go for direct regime change, but the Americans instructed him not to. Perhaps they were thinking of going ahead anyway, but I doubt the Iranian leadership is staying still long enough to be targeted via air strike.

Trump has a habit of talking bollocks and since he is increasingly losing whatever marbles he had in the first place, he may be confused.

Looking at the latest news it’s quite possible that the US will launch a strike of their own.

Its tricky to tell, but the Don looks increasingly, properly demented.

God help us all, Trump's being emboldened by Netanyahu. He likes the idea of bombing a country that can't hit back. Maybe he also wants to 'set an example' by devastating a place than no one (who matters) cares about. Greenland next?

A rules-based world order was a nice idea.

[morepork]

Just fuck this cunt.

[Which Tyler]

[Sandydragon]

Netanyahu apparently wanted to go for direct regime change, but the Americans instructed him not to. Perhaps they were thinking of going ahead anyway, but I doubt the Iranian leadership is staying still long enough to be targeted via air strike.

Trump has a habit of talking bollocks and since he is increasingly losing whatever marbles he had in the first place, he may be confused.

Looking at the latest news it’s quite possible that the US will launch a strike of their own.

Its tricky to tell, but the Don looks increasingly, properly demented.

God help us all, Trump's being emboldened by Netanyahu. He likes the idea of bombing a country that can't hit back. Maybe he also wants to 'set an example' by devastating a place than no one (who matters) cares about. Greenland next?

A rules-based world order was a nice idea.

Interestingly, it looked old like some of the MAGA crowd aren’t happy. Not because of international law or anything like that, just that they don’t want to get involved in foreign wars.

This might peel support away from Trump. It’s a fair while until the mid term elections, so Trump might not consider that a problem at this time, but equally he might decide it’s not worth the effort.

[Mikey Brown]

Can someone just nuke America already?

[Puja]

Its tricky to tell, but the Don looks increasingly, properly demented.

God help us all, Trump's being emboldened by Netanyahu. He likes the idea of bombing a country that can't hit back. Maybe he also wants to 'set an example' by devastating a place than no one (who matters) cares about. Greenland next?

A rules-based world order was a nice idea.

Interestingly, it looked old like some of the MAGA crowd aren’t happy. Not because of international law or anything like that, just that they don’t want to get involved in foreign wars.

This might peel support away from Trump. It’s a fair while until the mid term elections, so Trump might not consider that a problem at this time, but equally he might decide it’s not worth the effort.

Trumps sole lodestone is being adored and praised, so it's actually a fairly solid check on his warmongering. Can't imagine he's especially concerned about any election that doesn't involve him.

Puja

[Sandydragon]

The midterms will be important for him, although if he Dems do well then he can blame them for his future lack of any achievement.