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Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.




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Lord Lucan wrote:Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.
you needed to look harder then: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39047455.
So err; that makes you a liar, liar, pants on fire... again.
Besides that; it happened AFTER Trump talked about it having happened - which means he was still lying at the time.
You may also notice that there's a difference between (really, really minor*) rioting, and terrorist attacks.


NB, my reply comes 4 minutes after your post, and 4 hours after the BBC article; which is article #2 on European news (behind Brexit) and #4 on World news (Behind US deportation of imigrants; Yiannopoulos quitting Brietbart; and Brexit)


* Really, really minor by the standards of just about any country that isn't Sweden, anyway.
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Which Tyler wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.
you needed to look harder then: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39047455.
So err; that makes you a liar, liar, pants on fire... again.
Besides that; it happened AFTER Trump talked about it having happened - which means he was still lying at the time.
You may also notice that there's a difference between (really, really minor*) rioting, and terrorist attacks.


NB, my reply comes 4 minutes after your post, and 4 hours after the BBC article; which is article #2 on European news (behind Brexit) and #4 on World news (Behind US deportation of imigrants; Yiannopoulos quitting Brietbart; and Brexit)


* Really, really minor by the standards of just about any country that isn't Sweden, anyway.
Just so we're clear here, do you think Sweden has a problem?
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Lord Lucan wrote:Just so we're clear here, do you think Sweden has a problem?
I do not think that Utopia exists - though the TV series was great.

I also think that what you and I consider to be "a problem" are very different things; and that I would find Sweden to be a far more suitable place than you would.

Incidentally, Sweden came 4th in the most recent (that I can quickly find) "lottery of life" list. Swedens "problems" are so much less than most places.
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Which Tyler wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Just so we're clear here, do you think Sweden has a problem?
I do not think that Utopia exists - though the TV series was great.

I also think that what you and I consider to be "a problem" are very different things.
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Lord Lucan wrote:Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.




Obviously this addresses the symptom rather than the cause. The cause are the wars the West is making right across the Middle East and the societies it has destroyed beyond repair. Sweden is very much a lackey of the US, as evidenced by its complicity in torture programs and pursuit of the non-case against Assange.
If they're good enough to play at World Cups, why not in between?
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jared_7 wrote:http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/21/14682 ... on-economy
Now, though, as we transition into a new and terrifying age, we’re experimenting with an exciting form of macroeconomics: the one man attention economy. To succeed, you only need to grab the attention of one man: Donald Trump.

This isn’t hard, as by most accounts, Trump has the attention span of a toddler. He doesn’t read books. He’s addicted to TV and repeats phrases, word-for-word, that he hears on Fox News. During the presidential debates he preferred not to do prep work, and now, as president, for his intelligence briefings he likes bullet points or “as little as possible.” Trump seems to have no guiding ideology, and this means his opinions — on policy, on people, on pretty much anything — flap back and forth like a flag in the wind. So, if you want to change them, you just have to grab his attention. Even momentarily.

Here are some examples of adaptation to the one man attention economy we’ve seen so far:
  • PAC VoteVets bought ad space during MSNBC’s Morning Joe (which the President regularly tweets about) in order to “get in front of his face” and put him “on notice.”
  • John Oliver did the same thing, creating ads for morning TV shows in the Washington area in an attempt to educate Trump about the nuclear triad using a catheter-loving cowboy.
  • Short-sellers are issuing market reports with lines intended to goad Trump. If he tweets about the companies in question, their stocks will likely fall and the short-sellers will make money.
  • Others are cutting out the middle man, and using bots that automatically trade stocks based on a sentiment analysis of the president’s tweets.
  • White House insiders have to play the same game, with the NYT reporting that officials have considered “feeding suggested Twitter posts to the president” in order to steer his policy decisions.
This really isn't a surprise. It is very worrying though that a person in such a position of power really can be that incompetent.
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Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.
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OptimisticJock wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.
:lol: :lol:
He forgot the RAF Regiment...
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Didn't Trump saying something like he had a plan to defeat ISIS, but he wanted to give the generals 30 days to come up with a plan to quickly and soundly defeat ISIS, and if he liked the generals' plan he'd go with that, he might use some elements of his plan and the generals, or he might go with his secret plan he didn't want to go into details about?

Any which way he's missed his deadline, and can't possibly have had any idea what he was talking about.
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Stones of granite wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.
:lol: :lol:
He forgot the RAF Regiment...
:lol:
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Trump has the wrong Florida resort. I got an email about a conference at Gaylord Palms Resort & Conference Center, Kissimmee, Forida.

What wonders await? The Bell End Ballrooom? Beef Curtains Bar and Grille?

Carry On Florida.
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Stones of granite wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.
:lol: :lol:
He forgot the RAF Regiment...
:shock: :? :mrgreen:

I've almost choked on my tea reading that classic.
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Dinnae be slagging the 3rd elite now.
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All the gear, no idea
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Watch this SJW go ballistic over Trump. She believes he is more dangerous than Hitler, Stalin as well probably. I wouldn't believe people like this really exist, unless I saw it with my own eyes, extraordinary. George Soros must have a laboratory churning out these Manchurian candidate SJWs by the thousands.

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morepork wrote:While he wanks himself off to the attention, all the energy industry people he has surrounded himself with are pushing legislation in his face and handing him a crayon. He has started eating away at the Clean Water Act so mining and oil companies can dump waste directly in waterways. Nice. I mean, who needs clean water?
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So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?
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Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?


D-day on the east coast of the states, after its ally, a small island nation in Europe is liberated.
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Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?
Give him a chance, he's only been in the job for a month.

When he wipes out his first million based on racial or religious beliefs, that would be a good time to call them the 4th Reich.

People these days are so impatient.
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If he doesn't like the BBC and CNN why not give them a crap load of access so they get to cover the Trump presidency over and over and over? They might be mean and nasty, but it's his term in the Whitehouse not Hillary's so let them revel in that reality
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Digby wrote:If he doesn't like the BBC and CNN why not give them a crap load of access so they get to cover the Trump presidency over and over and over? They might be mean and nasty, but it's his term in the Whitehouse not Hillary's so let them revel in that reality
No chance of that happening imo. He doesn't like the questions and probing into his actions and some of the press are already keen to probe further. It does make a little sense for him to give controlled access and maybe try to butter up the outlets that he feels so aggrieved by, but it's a very risky tactic that could easily backfire. I don't think the press are interested in building bridges, they just want to keep digging.

It's the same with the tax returns bollocks. There must be a reason he doesn't want to release them as there's probably questions and more probing into his actions.
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Digby wrote:If he doesn't like the BBC and CNN why not give them a crap load of access so they get to cover the Trump presidency over and over and over? They might be mean and nasty, but it's his term in the Whitehouse not Hillary's so let them revel in that reality
I'm delighted he's done this, the BBC is a disgrace, the way they have jumped on every little thing he has said or done is not the behavior you would expect from a big news organisation, same with CNN. Keep these bums out, if they only want to print negative stuff let them fuck off out of it.
Keep the tweets coming Trump, that way we get the news direct, we don't have to wait to get it after its been dressed up the way the BBC Et al want it to look.
Its not questioning and probing they are doing, its hounding. They feel ever so silly after backing the hag Clinton all the way all losing, and it shows.
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WaspInWales wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?
Give him a chance, he's only been in the job for a month.

When he wipes out his first million based on racial or religious beliefs, that would be a good time to call them the 4th Reich.

People these days are so impatient.
Oh deary me, Bush and Blair did this when they were in power, and Obama killed his fair share, but in case you hadn't noticed, Trump is not interested in continuing the policy of conflict and regime change.
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Lord Lucan wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?
Give him a chance, he's only been in the job for a month.

When he wipes out his first million based on racial or religious beliefs, that would be a good time to call them the 4th Reich.

People these days are so impatient.
Oh deary me, Bush and Blair did this when they were in power, and Obama killed his fair share, but in case you hadn't noticed, Trump is not interested in continuing the policy of conflict and regime change.
Yes, I was being entirely serious.

We'll have to wait and see what Trump does in terms of conflict and regime change. Just wondering if the US has carried out any attacks since Trump took office?
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