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hp18 · Post by **hp18** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:40 pm

Don't go near cricfree today. Fake virus warnings.

AL. · Post by **AL.** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:21 pm

hp18 wrote:Don't go near cricfree today. Fake virus warnings.

Doesn't normally work for me anyway that one, usually vip box but that is shite too now.

Adder · Post by **Adder** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:24 pm

stream works for me here: http://vipbox.top/rugby/see-9f81b-trevi ... 1296442456

Adder · Post by **Adder** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:32 pm

24th min 0-3. after adazzling break from Hoyland. Snoozefest otherwise.

Adder · Post by **Adder** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:35 pm

Generous as always, Edinburghgive them the reach around.
26th minute 3-3

Adder · Post by **Adder** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:40 pm

Scum is going constantly backwards.Penas forTreviso.
31th minute 6-3
That is my cue I will stop watching.

AL. · Post by **AL.** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:14 pm

Fuck this, I thought it started 8 our time, double disappointment at the score. Fuck this im getting a kebab.

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:59 pm

Time for Petrie to show he is competent and allow Cockerill to bring in his own staff - a full clear out required.

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:04 pm

If Newport turn them over in the next game then it looks very possible Edinburgh will finish 11th as the final round has Glasgow v Edinburgh and then the winner of the Zebre/Treviso H2H would likely over take them.

If this season was any longer you'd be odds on for Edinburgh to finish rock bottom.

ARM · Post by **ARM** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:14 pm

Hodge seems to have lost the team.

I can't see Cockerill engineering a big bounce in his first season as the squad remains horribly weak particularly with Bradbury (I'm guessing) and Bennett out for a while and question marks over Dickinson and Nel.

There are 8 sides in the Pro12 who can compete for Top 6 and then a big gulf to the bottom four of Embra, Dragons and the two Italian teams. Rebuild squad next year with the aim of a Top 6 year after.

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:22 pm

ARM wrote:Hodge seems to have lost the team.

I can't see Cockerill engineering a big bounce in his first season as the squad remains horribly weak particularly with Bradbury (I'm guessing) and Bennett out for a while and question marks over Dickinson and Nel.

There are 8 sides in the Pro12 who can compete for Top 6 and then a big gulf to the bottom four of Embra, Dragons and the two Italian teams. Rebuild squad next year with the aim of a Top 6 year after.

Absolutely. Give Cockerill a free reign - he knows what he is doing. SRU & Petrie intervention is just asking for trouble and potentially more years of languishing around the bottom of the table.

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:17 pm

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Time for Petrie to show he is competent and allow Cockerill to bring in his own staff - a full clear out required.

That's not Petries remit. It is the DOR responsibility. Most player deals and all coaching appointments are DoR/SRU led.

Players have stopped playing which is a sure fire sign the coaches must go.

whatisthejava · Post by **whatisthejava** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:22 pm

I'm not convinced that a good pre season, clear game plan couldn't build some confidence and do ok.

Jps · Post by **Jps** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:31 pm

We gotta figure something out at 9 & 10 & maybe 12. I think Burleigh could do a job, but it'd be nice to have another option there.

I know this personnel can play good, attractive, winning rugby, but with nothing left to play for, it's pretty clear they're just not playing.

Cockerill will have work to do deciding on what type of structure he'd like to use, but we gotta get better at pivot.

switchskier · Post by **switchskier** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:43 am

Well at least we can give up on the idea that it's all weirs fault and that Tobey is a much better player. The entire team is in freefall so no point in singling out players.

Jps · Post by **Jps** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:25 pm

It seems to me like they're always in two minds tbh. I think they could play good, abrasive, forward oriented rugby, but with so many of the senior or stand out forwards injured, that's a tough thing to do. Similarly there are some game breakers in the backs, but there's just not a collective understand of what to do or when to do it.

When the pressure is off, or in counter attack, they play some great stuff, but there seems to be a missing wave length that means support lines aren't run as well as they could be, so breaks aren't finished and so forth.

Anyway, we despertely need the end of the season and a reboot.

Chunks Baws · Post by **Chunks Baws** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:07 am

Robbie Fruen is rumoured to be signing from Bath.

Mikey Brown · Post by **Mikey Brown** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:11 am

That would be a good signing. As cover for Bennett or to compete?

Chunks Baws · Post by **Chunks Baws** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:03 pm

Mikey Brown wrote:That would be a good signing. As cover for Bennett or to compete?

I'm not sure, I just saw a few folk tweet about it. I think the original rumour came from Then Rugby Paper. He'd be a good signing if he can stay injury free.

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:07 pm

Chunks Baws wrote:Robbie Fruen is rumoured to be signing from Bath.

That would be excellent. How about a fly half next?

whatisthejava · Post by **whatisthejava** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:58 pm

Need a new name for the board now Hodge is about to leave

How about

"Oh God another coach, please please please let him be better than the last 6, i cant stand another season of complete ineptitude followed by excuses about lack of a decent pre season, lack of basic skills and in ability to breakdown a defence "

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:27 pm

whatisthejava wrote:Need a new name for the board now Hodge is about to leave

How about

"Oh God another coach, please please please let him be better than the last 6, i cant stand another season of complete ineptitude followed by excuses about lack of a decent pre season, lack of basic skills and in ability to breakdown a defence "

Proof?

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:59 pm

whatisthejava wrote:Need a new name for the board now Hodge is about to leave

Not seeing that reported?

Dalziel is finished with LS so I'd get him in and bin either Scott or the defence coach.

hugh_woatmeigh · Post by **hugh_woatmeigh** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:03 pm

Big D wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:Need a new name for the board now Hodge is about to leave
Not seeing that reported?

Dalziel is finished with LS so I'd get him in and bin either Scott or the defence coach.

Or just let Cockerill pick as he knows what he is doing. If they can be Scottish, great. If not then too bad - turning Edinburgh around is priority number 1.

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:09 pm

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Big D wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:Need a new name for the board now Hodge is about to leave
Not seeing that reported?

Dalziel is finished with LS so I'd get him in and bin either Scott or the defence coach.
Or just let Cockerill pick as he knows what he is doing. If they can be Scottish, great. If not then too bad - turning Edinburgh around is priority number 1.

I would let Cockerill chose within reason, although he did hand pick Mauger for Tigers and that didn't work and the Tigers approach had a lot of promoting from within so that was either board influence or Cockerills method.

I imagine Cockerill will be pretty hands on so any forwards coach will be working closely to him so would see a Scottish coach (not Scott) as fairly low risk. So with that in mind I would be encouraging him to take on a younger Scottish "apprentice" with the hope of developing a Scottish coach to take over.

In many respects I think the backs coach is the one where Cockerill and the SRU need to get it right regardless of where the coach comes from as it isn't Cockerills area of expertise.

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