Friday XV

[Lizard]

Kaino has had 1 start at lock, so technically he could wear 5, move Collins to 6 and bring in Rodney So'oialo at 8.

[Big D]

Mehrtens and TKB. Australia is an island right

[Galfon]

Taumoepoe can play hooker I think..maybe
Anesi can do 10, and bring Maka in at 8 instead
of So'oialo.Stumped for a 9..

[Lizard]

You started strongly there, but faded quite badly. Taumoepeau hooked for the Blues and JABs so yes, he is probably the best we can do there.

I'm not sure Anesi ever played 10 being a wing/fullback.

And in what possible universe is Maka preferable to Rodney So'oialo?

[Big D]

Mehrtens

Nope. He was born in Durban.

Steve Devine, on the other hand, was born on that massive island next door.

Oops. Sorry.

[Lizard]

The only 10 actually born in the Pacific Islands is David Solomon, who was born in Levuka, FIji. He played 8 tour games in the mid-30s, but no tests.

Best we got then. We'll take him.

[Galfon]

And in what possible universe is Maka preferable to Rodney So'oialo?

no preference was either stated or inferred Liz..
even though the universe we are operating in is
RR>crookedfeed>friday xv, it's still a bit ott I would say to diss. anyone who's worn the shirt, (particularly a 20-st tongan no.8.)...Maka was reasonably effective in bursts to my memory.Rodders flattered to deceive a bit...though agree would get the pick on merit.

[Lizard]

Maka was a big man, but had a touch of the Skeltons about him, never making the most of his physical attributes.

[Lizard]

Ok, guess the selection criteria:

1. James Slipper (Australia)
2. Huw Bennett (Wales)
3. Owen Franks (New Zealand)
4. Luke Charteris (Wales)
5. Quintin Geldenhuys (Italy)
6. Matt Cockbain (Australia)
7. Tom Wood (England)
8. George Beamish (Ireland)
9. Luis Pissarra (Portugal)
10. Otar Barkalaia (Georgia)
11. Ludovico Nitoglia (Italy)
12. Sir Ian McGeechan (Scotland)
13. John Cannon (Canada)
14. Giorgi Elizbarashviki (Georgia)
15. Billy Bancroft (Wales)

[Galfon]

Have captained their country but not scored a try for that team.

[Lizard]

Between the 2 of you, you've almost got it.

[Galfon]

most appearances in that position without ever scoring a try ?

[Lizard]

most appearances in that position without ever scoring a try ?

Yep.

[Lizard]

How about this one:

1. Jock Allan 27 (Scotland)
2. Viliami Pahulu 16 (Tonga)
3. Okey Geffin 48 (SA)
4. Bill Tamplin 24 (Wales)
5. John Currie 16 (England)
6. Antonio di Zitti 25 (Italy)
7. Geoff Chapman 14 (Australia)
8. Jasper Coetzee 10 (Namibia)
9. Juline Dupuy 38 (France)
10. Eric Elwood 296 (Ireland)
11. Javier Carrion Llorens 46 (Spain)
12. Mark Nicholls 48 (NZ)
13. Enrique Fernandez del Casal 40 (Argentina)
14. Yuri Koshelev 10 (Russia)
15. Severo Koroduadua Waqanibau 268 (Fiji)

[Galfon]

Most points scored by player of that country in that position who also had never scored a try. ?

[Lizard]

Most points scored by player of that country in that position who also had never scored a try. ?

Bingo

[Galfon]

British & Irish international select...
who's the odd one out ?..only my answer counts for the coconut.
( makeshift hooker was needed so that's not the answer)

1. d marfo
2. a allan
3. d sole

4. j hamilton
5. j ball
6. d lydiate
7. s easterby
8. c charvis

9.   d morris
10. p burke
11. g north
12. r henderson 
13. j davies
14. s geoghegan
15. h southwell

Reps:
m cusack
a reed
b pountney
i smith
k o'brien
d maggs
s webster

Coach: i mcgeechan

[Banquo]

British & Irish international select...
who's the odd one out ?..only my answer counts for the coconut.
( makeshift hooker was needed so that's not the answer)

1. d marfo
2. a allan
3. d sole

4. j hamilton
5. j ball
6. d lydiate
7. s easterby
8. c charvis

9.   d morris
10. p burke
11. g north
12. r henderson 
13. j davies
14. s geoghegan
15. h southwell

Reps:
m cusack
a reed
b pountney
i smith
k o'brien
d maggs
s webster

Coach: i mcgeechan

They all appear to have been born outside the country they played for. Pountney qualified via Channel Island g-parentage?

[Galfon]

warm - need to be more specific..

[Galfon]

odd one out ?..

[Galfon]

roll-over:
which england player was born in the british isles but not in any of the 6N playing nations ?

[Which Tyler]

roll-over:
which england player was born in the british isles but not in any of the 6N playing nations ?

Matt Banahan
Or Neil Bennett if you want older, I'm sure there have been others too not sure if there's anyone currently in the frame

[Galfon]

Matt Banahan
Or Neil Bennett if you want older, I'm sure there have been others too not sure if there's anyone currently in the frame

Bennett (IoM) was the answer I was looking for ( late 70's).
Banahan gets a brucie bonus. don't think there were any more from manxland or the bailiwicks.

[Which Tyler]

Matt Banahan
Or Neil Bennett if you want older, I'm sure there have been others too not sure if there's anyone currently in the frame

Bennett (IoM) was the answer I was looking for ( late 70's).
Banahan gets a brucie bonus. don't think there were any more from manxland or the bailiwicks.

Channel islands are part of the British Isles, but not part of the British Archipelago. Surely Bana.s is not the only islander to play for England though, even if only born on holiday.

I was also trying to think of anyone born on an overseas military base, or diplomatic embassy that might count as "British isles", but I think those are "British" without the isles.
Scilly Isles are English rather dependencies (I had to check that one)

[Galfon]

Yes, I was surprised my rudimentary interweb searches gave no more internationals other than some guy who played for Spain.
There's a few early B.Isles players from Man.
(confusingly W'pedia listed Douglas Bader under notable players from IoM.. )