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cashead wrote:Stop trying to police what other people post, you smarmy fuck.

It was a suggestion, not an order. I'm simply pointing out that if you post criticism of Russia on a thread intended to address anti-Russian rhetoric, expect your views to be challenged. That's the point you're so haplessly missing.

Any offences carried out in defaming Russia on this thread, other than the comments are largely directed at policies and a sick dictator rather Russia, can perhaps be downgraded to at most an administrative offence.

How very apt that a thread about Russia is only allowed to contain posts in support of Russia.

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote:So that's a "no," then. Not quite like Russia decriminalising domestic violence at all then, is it?

Ok, so start a thread about that. This one, so far as I can tell, was set up to address the issue of Russophobia - not to add to it. I think that's the part you're missing here. I have challenged these criticisms of Russia in accordance with what I perceive to be the theme of the thread; not because I think Russia is beyond reproach.

Then criticise them when they do something like the domestic abuse law not defend them by posting about something that might
or might noty happen in another country. You go on & on about people blindly following/supporting the West & yet you do the
same with regards to Russia

As I have said before you can post some thought provoking & interesting stuff on here & think you are an intelligent person
but you do yourself no favours by being so hypocritical

belgarion wrote:

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote:So that's a "no," then. Not quite like Russia decriminalising domestic violence at all then, is it?

Ok, so start a thread about that. This one, so far as I can tell, was set up to address the issue of Russophobia - not to add to it. I think that's the part you're missing here. I have challenged these criticisms of Russia in accordance with what I perceive to be the theme of the thread; not because I think Russia is beyond reproach.

Then criticise them when they do something like the domestic abuse law not defend them by posting about something that might
or might noty happen in another country. You go on & on about people blindly following/supporting the West & yet you do the
same with regards to Russia

As I have said before you can post some thought provoking & interesting stuff on here & think you are an intelligent person
but you do yourself no favours by being so hypocritical

Haplessly missing the point also. I'm responding in accordance with the spirit of the thread, which is to address anti-Russian rhetoric, not support it.

I don't blindly follow Russia. You don't have a clue what most of my views about Russia are. On another thread this morning I was actually discussing Eastern European Russophobia without attempting to defend them.

So who's the hypocrite here?

Any offences carried out in defaming Russia on this thread, other than the comments are largely directed at policies and a sick dictator rather Russia, can perhaps be downgraded to at most an administrative offence.

Sick dictators are being supported by the West all over the world. So you problem with Putin and Russia is clearly not this, or we would be reading your daily rants on many other countries here as well.

So who's the hypocrite here?

How very apt that a thread about Russia is only allowed to contain posts in support of Russia.

Haplessly missing the point also. It's not for me to decide, but I'd say that posts critical of Russia are certainly allowed here and everywhere else. But on a thread set up to address Russophobian sentiment, Russophobian comments are not going to go unchallenged. That's a delusion.

So who's the hypocrite here?

rowan wrote:

belgarion wrote:

rowan wrote:
Ok, so start a thread about that. This one, so far as I can tell, was set up to address the issue of Russophobia - not to add to it. I think that's the part you're missing here. I have challenged these criticisms of Russia in accordance with what I perceive to be the theme of the thread; not because I think Russia is beyond reproach.

Then criticise them when they do something like the domestic abuse law not defend them by posting about something that might
or might noty happen in another country. You go on & on about people blindly following/supporting the West & yet you do the
same with regards to Russia

As I have said before you can post some thought provoking & interesting stuff on here & think you are an intelligent person
but you do yourself no favours by being so hypocritical

How very apt that a thread about Russia is only allowed to contain posts in support of Russia.

Haplessly missing the point also. It's not for me to decide, but I'd say that posts critical of Russia are certainly allowed here and everywhere else. But on a thread set up to address Russophobian sentiment, Russophobian comments are not going to go unchallenged. That's a delusion.

So who's the hypocrite here?

I think you may be missing the point on this one. I found it amusing that you didn't want any dissenting voices on a thread about a country that comes down very hard on dissenting voices.

Mellsblue wrote:

rowan wrote:

belgarion wrote:
Then criticise them when they do something like the domestic abuse law not defend them by posting about something that might
or might noty happen in another country. You go on & on about people blindly following/supporting the West & yet you do the
same with regards to Russia

As I have said before you can post some thought provoking & interesting stuff on here & think you are an intelligent person
but you do yourself no favours by being so hypocritical

How very apt that a thread about Russia is only allowed to contain posts in support of Russia.

Haplessly missing the point also. It's not for me to decide, but I'd say that posts critical of Russia are certainly allowed here and everywhere else. But on a thread set up to address Russophobian sentiment, Russophobian comments are not going to go unchallenged. That's a delusion.

So who's the hypocrite here?

I think you may be missing the point on this one. I found it amusing that you didn't want any dissenting voices on a thread about a country that comes down very hard on dissenting voices.

You need to read the title of the thread, chum. It's clear as daylight. I'm addressing anti-Russian rhetoric. You're generating it then attempting to defend it with yet more anti-Russian rhetoric. That's because you have been brainwashed into a state of Russophobic hatred. That's not healthy - not for you nor anyone.

Mellsblue wrote: I think you may be missing the point on this one. I found it amusing that you didn't want any dissenting voices on a thread about a country that comes down very hard on dissenting voices.

Only with things like polonium though, nothing serious

rowan wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

rowan wrote:
How very apt that a thread about Russia is only allowed to contain posts in support of Russia.

Haplessly missing the point also. It's not for me to decide, but I'd say that posts critical of Russia are certainly allowed here and everywhere else. But on a thread set up to address Russophobian sentiment, Russophobian comments are not going to go unchallenged. That's a delusion.

So who's the hypocrite here?

I think you may be missing the point on this one. I found it amusing that you didn't want any dissenting voices on a thread about a country that comes down very hard on dissenting voices.

You need to read the title of the thread, chum. It's clear as daylight. I'm addressing anti-Russian rhetoric. You're generating it then attempting to defend it with yet more anti-Russian rhetoric. That's because you have been brainwashed into a state of Russophobic hatred. That's not healthy - not for you nor anyone.

To put it bluntly, what gives you the arrogance to assume that we have all been brainwashed yet you have not?

rowan wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

rowan wrote:
How very apt that a thread about Russia is only allowed to contain posts in support of Russia.

Haplessly missing the point also. It's not for me to decide, but I'd say that posts critical of Russia are certainly allowed here and everywhere else. But on a thread set up to address Russophobian sentiment, Russophobian comments are not going to go unchallenged. That's a delusion.

So who's the hypocrite here?

I think you may be missing the point on this one. I found it amusing that you didn't want any dissenting voices on a thread about a country that comes down very hard on dissenting voices.

You need to read the title of the thread, chum. It's clear as daylight. I'm addressing anti-Russian rhetoric. You're generating it then attempting to defend it with yet more anti-Russian rhetoric. That's because you have been brainwashed into a state of Russophobic hatred. That's not healthy - not for you nor anyone.

I can read it. It reads 'Anti-Russian rhetoric'. Not 'A thread to solely discuss pro-Russian rhetoric'. If we're being honest, it sounds like an invitation to post anti-Russian rhetoric that we've been brainwashed with since nursery.
Regardless, it made me chuckle. Which it pretty much the only thing a sane person would take from most of the threads on the politics board.

To put it bluntly, what gives you the arrogance to assume that we have all been brainwashed yet you have not?

Your comments, for one. Your media, for another. I read both.


If we're being honest, it sounds like an invitation to post anti-Russian rhetoric that we've been brainwashed with since nursery

If that were the case, and it clearly isn't, it would be a paradoxical cause, self-defeating by nature, and full value for all the criticism it receives.

Rowan, I'm curious as to what it would take for you to recognise that people on here can acknowledge your point of view without necessarily having to agree with it. It just seems as though you have a stock narrative that you are determined to deliver whatever the input from other sources. It's almost Asperger's-like

morepork wrote:Rowan, I'm curious as to what it would take for you to recognise that people on here can acknowledge your point of view without necessarily having to agree with it. It just seems as though you have a stock narrative that you are determined to deliver whatever the input from other sources. It's almost Asperger's-like

That's not the case here at all, and you know it. The case is that a thread set up to address the issue of anti-Russian rhetoric is being filled up with actual anti-Russian rhetoric, and when I challenge that in accordance with the spirit of the thread I am accused of being unduly protective of Russia. So the failure to recognize that people on here can disagree lies with those who object to their Russophobic views being challenged on a thread designed expressly for that purpose.

So who's the hypocrite here?

There's that stock footage again.

Are you saying I am a hypocrite? A Russsophobe? Both? Neither?

Prease help.

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote:Stop trying to police what other people post, you smarmy fuck.

It was a suggestion, not an order. I'm simply pointing out that if you post criticism of Russia on a thread intended to address anti-Russian rhetoric, expect your views to be challenged. That's the point you're so haplessly missing.

Is that why your first post in this thread - the 3rd post made in this thread after it was started - was a pro-Russian talking point?

It's funny how you immediately have a whine about how people are "missing the point of the thread," when someone talks shit about Russia, while apparently it's OK to do a written handjob on Poots. Who the fuck do you think you are to try to constantly police what others are writing?

Discussions always shift focus sooner or later. Get used to it, you fucking crybaby.

cashead wrote:

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote:Stop trying to police what other people post, you smarmy fuck.

It was a suggestion, not an order. I'm simply pointing out that if you post criticism of Russia on a thread intended to address anti-Russian rhetoric, expect your views to be challenged. That's the point you're so haplessly missing.

Is that why your first post in this thread - the 3rd post made in this thread after it was started - was a pro-Russian talking point?

It's funny how you immediately have a whine about how people are "missing the point of the thread," when someone talks shit about Russia, while apparently it's OK to do a written handjob on Poots. Who the fuck do you think you are to try to constantly police what others are writing?

Discussions always shift focus sooner or later. Get used to it, you fucking crybaby.

Now there is the definition of irony as Cashead, hapless as ever, once again misses the point. It's not me trying to police what's being written on here. That was you. The moment I started challenging your Russophobic views in accordance with the theme of this thread - which you still haven't grasped - you began to challenge my very right to challenge Russophobic views. & your derogatory comments about anything written on this forum that is not critical of Russia or its leader clearly indicate it is you who is attempting to police what others are writing.

So who's the hypocrite here?

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote:

rowan wrote:
It was a suggestion, not an order. I'm simply pointing out that if you post criticism of Russia on a thread intended to address anti-Russian rhetoric, expect your views to be challenged. That's the point you're so haplessly missing.

Is that why your first post in this thread - the 3rd post made in this thread after it was started - was a pro-Russian talking point?

It's funny how you immediately have a whine about how people are "missing the point of the thread," when someone talks shit about Russia, while apparently it's OK to do a written handjob on Poots. Who the fuck do you think you are to try to constantly police what others are writing?

Discussions always shift focus sooner or later. Get used to it, you fucking crybaby.

Now there is the definition of irony as Cashead, hapless as ever, once again misses the point. It's not me trying to police what's being written on here. That was you. The moment I started challenging your Russophobic views in accordance with the theme of this thread - which you still haven't grasped - you began to challenge my very right to challenge Russophobic views. & your derogatory comments about anything written on this forum that is not critical of Russia or its leader clearly indicate it is you who is attempting to police what others are writing.

So who's the hypocrite here?

You keep posting that same question. Is the answer, the guy with the neverending whataboutery?

As the author of the thread 'Anti-Russian rhetoric' (WaspInWales, 2016), I hereby give anyone the right to argue for, and against, anti-Russian rhetoric*

Fill your boots.

*-If this goes against the board rules, then I concede my authoritah (deliberate spelling) to the higher power

RugbyRebels (2016) ‘Anti-Russian rhetoric’, Politics and stuff [Online]. Available at ‘http://www.rugbyrebels.co/board/viewtop ... =17&t=1097’ (Accessed 1 February 2017).

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote:

rowan wrote:
It was a suggestion, not an order. I'm simply pointing out that if you post criticism of Russia on a thread intended to address anti-Russian rhetoric, expect your views to be challenged. That's the point you're so haplessly missing.

Is that why your first post in this thread - the 3rd post made in this thread after it was started - was a pro-Russian talking point?

It's funny how you immediately have a whine about how people are "missing the point of the thread," when someone talks shit about Russia, while apparently it's OK to do a written handjob on Poots. Who the fuck do you think you are to try to constantly police what others are writing?

Discussions always shift focus sooner or later. Get used to it, you fucking crybaby.

Now there is the definition of irony as Cashead, hapless as ever, once again misses the point. It's not me trying to police what's being written on here. That was you. The moment I started challenging your Russophobic views in accordance with the theme of this thread - which you still haven't grasped - you began to challenge my very right to challenge Russophobic views. & your derogatory comments about anything written on this forum that is not critical of Russia or its leader clearly indicate it is you who is attempting to police what others are writing.

So who's the hypocrite here?

Oh sweet mother of fuck.

WaspInWales wrote:As the author of the thread 'Anti-Russian rhetoric' (WaspInWales, 2016), I hereby give anyone the right to argue for, and against, anti-Russian rhetoric*

Fill your boots.

*-If this goes against the board rules, then I concede my authoritah (deliberate spelling) to the higher power

RugbyRebels (2016) ‘Anti-Russian rhetoric’, Politics and stuff [Online]. Available at ‘http://www.rugbyrebels.co/board/viewtop ... =17&t=1097’ (Accessed 1 February 2017).

You hypocrite.

Get a brain, Mellsblue. It's you and that hapless Cashead who have been getting angry over having their anti-Russian views questioned on a thread about anti-Russian views. Of course we can argue for and against, but the criticism I've received has been about doing precisely that, challenging your anti-Russian views; not attempting to silence them. That's what you and the hapless Cashead have been doing, clearly. Wasps has simply confirmed that, and I suggest you go back and read his original post on this thread to get a handle on the spirit it was intended in (certainly not an invite to fill it up with anti-Russian views, I would suggest).

So who's the hypocrite here?

rowan wrote:Get a brain, Mellsblue. It's you and that hapless Cashead who have been getting angry over having their anti-Russian views questioned on a thread about anti-Russian views. Of course we can argue for and against, but the criticism I've received has been about doing precisely that, challenging your anti-Russian views; not attempting to silence them. That's what you and the hapless Cashead have been doing, clearly. Wasps has simply confirmed that, and I suggest you go back and read his original post on this thread to get a handle on the spirit it was intended in (certainly not an invite to fill it up with anti-Russian views, I would suggest).

So who's the hypocrite here?

I'm not getting angry, only amused.

I've already said that WiW is the hypocrite.

rowan wrote:Get a brain, Mellsblue. It's you and that hapless Cashead who have been getting angry over having their anti-Russian views questioned on a thread about anti-Russian views. Of course we can argue for and against, but the criticism I've received has been about doing precisely that, challenging your anti-Russian views; not attempting to silence them. That's what you and the hapless Cashead have been doing, clearly. Wasps has simply confirmed that, and I suggest you go back and read his original post on this thread to get a handle on the spirit it was intended in (certainly not an invite to fill it up with anti-Russian views, I would suggest).

So who's the hypocrite here?

Hapless hapless hapless. Did you learn a new word?

"I wasn't trying to silence anti-Russian criticism in the thread, I was only whining about how the thread was moving in a direction that I didn't approve of by repeatedly stating what I decided what the thread is about, in a passive-aggressive manner."

You fucking crybaby.

Mellsblue wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:As the author of the thread 'Anti-Russian rhetoric' (WaspInWales, 2016), I hereby give anyone the right to argue for, and against, anti-Russian rhetoric*

Fill your boots.

*-If this goes against the board rules, then I concede my authoritah (deliberate spelling) to the higher power

RugbyRebels (2016) ‘Anti-Russian rhetoric’, Politics and stuff [Online]. Available at ‘http://www.rugbyrebels.co/board/viewtop ... =17&t=1097’ (Accessed 1 February 2017).

You hypocrite.

WaspInWales wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:As the author of the thread 'Anti-Russian rhetoric' (WaspInWales, 2016), I hereby give anyone the right to argue for, and against, anti-Russian rhetoric*

Fill your boots.

*-If this goes against the board rules, then I concede my authoritah (deliberate spelling) to the higher power

RugbyRebels (2016) ‘Anti-Russian rhetoric’, Politics and stuff [Online]. Available at ‘http://www.rugbyrebels.co/board/viewtop ... =17&t=1097’ (Accessed 1 February 2017).

You hypocrite.

Whoa, whoa. I thought porn wasn't allowed on rugby rebels.