Boxing

[Big D]

DeGale wins, but like everyone else was not happy with his performance. Clearly won though.

Jack and Bute drew.

Seems like DeGale v Jack is next up.

[WaspInWales]

Any thoughts on...

[Big D]

If Khan can box and run whilst not taking punishment that is the only way he can win. I can't see him KO'ing Canelo. If he gets knocked down it will make winning on points that much harder too.

Canelo has a significant power and size advantage and Khan will be keen to avoid Canelo "leaning" on him to sap strength when they come together.

I have half convinced myself that Khan has a chance. Still convinced Canelo takes this though.

Interesting that the bookies have Alvarez by KO as the clear favourite outcome but yet Khan to win on points is shorter odds than Canelo to win on points.

[Big D]

I don't think he will win tomorrow but if he does AK will get murdered by GGG.

[WaspInWales]

If Khan can box and run whilst not taking punishment that is the only way he can win. I can't see him KO'ing Canelo. If he gets knocked down it will make winning on points that much harder too.

Canelo has a significant power and size advantage and Khan will be keen to avoid Canelo "leaning" on him to sap strength when they come together.

I have half convinced myself that Khan has a chance. Still convinced Canelo takes this though.

Interesting that the bookies have Alvarez by KO as the clear favourite outcome but yet Khan to win on points is shorter odds than Canelo to win on points.

Aye, agree with that. Would be nice to see Khan win but just can't see it happening. Not sure I can be bothered to stay up for the disappointment either.

Pulev has just beaten Chisora on a split decision. Pulev pretty much in control and won just about every round but one judge had Chisora on top. Mental.

[WaspInWales]

Great stuff from Crolla. Can't see this lasting another round.

[WaspInWales]

And it's over.

Good fight that.

[Big D]

Really good stuff there.

Good game plan by Gallagher. He owed his fighters after getting quiggs so wrong.

[WaspInWales]

Saw some highlights of the Khan fight and the lad did well for the most part but a massive lapse of concentration cost him.

Sweet finish by Alvarez though.

[WaspInWales]

[Numbers]

DeGale wins, but like everyone else was not happy with his performance. Clearly won though.

Jack and Bute drew.

Seems like DeGale v Jack is next up.

DeGale is the most frustrating boxer to watch, he always seems to be drawn into a fight when he could easily win by keeping his range and using his skills, the last two fights have followed the same pattern, he starts well for the first half of the fight then seems to throw the gameplan out the window.

I think he's trying to endear himself to the American public as they like a tear up but his low of workrate is always going to go against him.

[Big D]

DeGale wins, but like everyone else was not happy with his performance. Clearly won though.

Jack and Bute drew.

Seems like DeGale v Jack is next up.

DeGale is the most frustrating boxer to watch, he always seems to be drawn into a fight when he could easily win by keeping his range and using his skills, the last two fights have followed the same pattern, he starts well for the first half of the fight then seems to throw the gameplan out the window.

I think he's trying to endear himself to the American public as they like a tear up but his low of workrate is always going to go against him.

He should beat Jack on points I think. Wont be a good fight though.

Groves should target Bute.

Not sure where DeGale v Jack leaves CSmith.

[Numbers]

DeGale wins, but like everyone else was not happy with his performance. Clearly won though.

Jack and Bute drew.

Seems like DeGale v Jack is next up.

DeGale is the most frustrating boxer to watch, he always seems to be drawn into a fight when he could easily win by keeping his range and using his skills, the last two fights have followed the same pattern, he starts well for the first half of the fight then seems to throw the gameplan out the window.

I think he's trying to endear himself to the American public as they like a tear up but his low of workrate is always going to go against him.

He should beat Jack on points I think. Wont be a good fight though.

Groves should target Bute.

Not sure where DeGale v Jack leaves CSmith.

Groves is fighting Martin Murray next by all accounts, their fighting on the Joshua undercard, as you say not sure where that leaves Smith, maybe Lucien Bute but I'm not sure that would be a fight worth taking at this stage.

[Big D]

DeGale is the most frustrating boxer to watch, he always seems to be drawn into a fight when he could easily win by keeping his range and using his skills, the last two fights have followed the same pattern, he starts well for the first half of the fight then seems to throw the gameplan out the window.

I think he's trying to endear himself to the American public as they like a tear up but his low of workrate is always going to go against him.

He should beat Jack on points I think. Wont be a good fight though.

Groves should target Bute.

Not sure where DeGale v Jack leaves CSmith.

Groves is fighting Martin Murray next by all accounts, their fighting on the Joshua undercard, as you say not sure where that leaves Smith, maybe Lucien Bute but I'm not sure that would be a fight worth taking at this stage.

So he is. Slipped my mind despite talking about it.

If Smith could blow away Bute like Froch did it could be a massive statement but not sure Bute would fancy it. It's a dangerous fight for Bute.

[WaspInWales]

Just watched a bit of the controversial Tyson Fury video.

He's a bit insane isn't he?

[Numbers]

Just watched a bit of the controversial Tyson Fury video.

He's a bit insane isn't he?

Bonkers.

[Numbers]

Good win for Lee Haskins on Saturday night, younger Selby looking sharp also, not so sure Craig Kennedy deserved the spit decision in his fight after being floored twice.

[bruce]

Good win for Lee Haskins on Saturday night, younger Selby looking sharp also, not so sure Craig Kennedy deserved the spit decision in his fight after being floored twice.

I went to this. Haskins will get sparked against a bigger hitter unless he learns to pick his hands up, having said that a fairly comfortable win. Young Selby looked good, and as you say feck knows how Kennedy won.

[Numbers]

Good win for Lee Haskins on Saturday night, younger Selby looking sharp also, not so sure Craig Kennedy deserved the spit decision in his fight after being floored twice.

I went to this. Haskins will get sparked against a bigger hitter unless he learns to pick his hands up, having said that a fairly comfortable win. Young Selby looked good, and as you say feck knows how Kennedy won.

Aye, you'd think he'd of learned by now having been sparked 3 times already, fairplay to him tho, good win in the end. He's fighting Stuart Hall next (no not the one from it's a knockout with the highly dubious criminal record), he's beaten Hall once already but only marginally on points, unfortunately Lee doesn't have what it takes at the top level imo, if he beats Hall then McDonnell will beat him with relative ease I should think (mind you if McDonnell fights Rigondeaux as suggested then that fight may never happen.

[WaspInWales]

Just watched a bit of the controversial Tyson Fury video.

He's a bit insane isn't he?

Bonkers.

Aye, he's not racist or a bigot though.

[Numbers]

Well David Haye is fighting on Dave this Saturday night.

Povetkin has failed a drug test so won't be fighting Deontay Wilder after all, it seems Melodonium is rife in Russia.

[WaspInWales]

What are the odds that Fury is trying his best to get his license revoked in order to quit unbeaten? This way he can live the dream that he was a champion without having to risk losing his belts. He can dine out for years that no-one beat him, he was the greatest and can still get paid as an after-dinner speaker for anyone willing to be entertained. Then there's the book and films deals.....

[Big D]

What are the odds that Fury is trying his best to get his license revoked in order to quit unbeaten? This way he can live the dream that he was a champion without having to risk losing his belts. He can dine out for years that no-one beat him, he was the greatest and can still get paid as an after-dinner speaker for anyone willing to be entertained. Then there's the book and films deals.....

Here's the thing that annoys me about the retirement talk and the Fury nut huggers.

If he beats Klit again he needs to fight a Wilder or a Joshua to prove he simply wasn't lucky to be the 1st one to fight an over the hill WK.

He deserves enormous credit for beating WK but there is nothing to say he wasn't the first one of the new HWs to get to him 1st.

[Numbers]

What are the odds that Fury is trying his best to get his license revoked in order to quit unbeaten? This way he can live the dream that he was a champion without having to risk losing his belts. He can dine out for years that no-one beat him, he was the greatest and can still get paid as an after-dinner speaker for anyone willing to be entertained. Then there's the book and films deals.....

Here's the thing that annoys me about the retirement talk and the Fury nut huggers.

If he beats Klit again he needs to fight a Wilder or a Joshua to prove he simply wasn't lucky to be the 1st one to fight an over the hill WK.

He deserves enormous credit for beating WK but there is nothing to say he wasn't the first one of the new HWs to get to him 1st.

Klitshcko has always struggled with fighters bigger than him, I don't think Fury would want to fight Joshua, he knows he not the same level. He could fight Deontay Wilder but I don't think he'd get much change out of him either, it wouldn't suprise me if he retired after the rematch tbh, especially if he loses.

[Big D]

What are the odds that Fury is trying his best to get his license revoked in order to quit unbeaten? This way he can live the dream that he was a champion without having to risk losing his belts. He can dine out for years that no-one beat him, he was the greatest and can still get paid as an after-dinner speaker for anyone willing to be entertained. Then there's the book and films deals.....

Here's the thing that annoys me about the retirement talk and the Fury nut huggers.

If he beats Klit again he needs to fight a Wilder or a Joshua to prove he simply wasn't lucky to be the 1st one to fight an over the hill WK.

He deserves enormous credit for beating WK but there is nothing to say he wasn't the first one of the new HWs to get to him 1st.

Klitshcko has always struggled with fighters bigger than him, I don't think Fury would want to fight Joshua, he knows he not the same level. He could fight Deontay Wilder but I don't think he'd get much change out of him either, it wouldn't suprise me if he retired after the rematch tbh, especially if he loses.

I agree with all that.

But all this Fury is the best in the world etc to me means nothing til he beats one of the other HWs. WK was always going to lose his fight with father time. The WK of 5 years ago, possibly the version with Steward in his corner would beat this Fury 9/10 IMO. Fury IMO needs to beat AJ/DW to prove he is the best IMO, that is all I was meaning.

Interestingly I thing AJ/DW would always have a chance against any version of WK due to their power. I would still have backed the Steward trained version of WK to beat the current version of AJ/DW who are still improving though.