RugbyRebels

Lizard wrote:UG, you know that polling data is nearly 2 months old, right?

Reuters' current data has Clinton 40.4%, Trump 31.5% in a head to head. http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/

Hope that helps.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... elections/

Hope that helps.

Well done for spotting up-to-date data.

What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.

Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.

Lizard wrote:Well done for spotting up-to-date data.

What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.

Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.

One point would be that a Hillary candidacy would mean that the vote would be close enough for the election to be stolen a la 2000 and 2004.

So the Clinton/DNC's voter suppression and electoral fraud tactics for La Clinton are playing into Republican hands.

And I've no doubt that the DNC, under the moronic management of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, is stupid enough to gift the Repubs the opportunity.

Now that would be fun. Two fairly equally loathsome candidates with a contested result. How does the SCOTUS bench split on hanging chads?

Lizard wrote:Now that would be fun. Two fairly equally loathsome candidates with a contested result. How does the SCOTUS bench split on hanging chads?

It won't be contested. They can just flip the tallies in a couple of big battleground states. That's what they did in 2004 and Kerry quickly conceded, even though the Ohio result was clearly manufactured.

La Clinton is in no position to contest because her machine has been doing it in the primaries and will probably do some on the general, albeit in states that won't swing a close call in her favour.

And despite what the authoritarians in the other Fred would say, this isn't 'conspiracy theory' or conjecture. This is the reality of the polling system in the US.

It's crooked as fuck.

Lizard wrote:Well done for spotting up-to-date data.

What is your point? I wasn't taking sides, just noting your data was out of date. I'm no Hilary fan.

Reuters currently has Clinton only 0.4% ahead of Trump (as of 10 May). I can't see a Trump/Sanders head to head on their site.

There are some (albeit individual states) numbers in here http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... nders-wins

FLORIDA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 44 - Trump 42
OHIO: Clinton 39 - Trump 43; Sanders 43 - Trump 41
PENNSYLVANIA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 47 - Trump 41

Suggesting that these numbers do exist.

The DNC have acted like Clinton has a right to the presidency, and I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Shillary and Trump both have extremely low approval ratings, but Shillary's has built up over a long period of time, is engrained and you feel will be harder to shake.

Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

He won't be a pushover.

jared_7 wrote:The DNC have acted like Clinton has a right to the presidency, and I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. Shillary and Trump both have extremely low approval ratings, but Shillary's has built up over a long period of time, is engrained and you feel will be harder to shake.

Meanwhile, Trump has moved on from courting the psychopath extremist republicans and already is starting to seem much more reasonable. Here's an article about him running to the left of Shillary in many instances, and there is also video floating around with him denouncing aggressive foreign policy and how he wants to turn enemies into friends (which is a dig at the US lining troops up near Nth Korea and Russian borders).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

He won't be a pushover.

I'm not sure that "left" and "right" carry much meaning in relation to Trump.

Would it really make a difference who was nominated then elected?

I honestly don't think there will be too much by way of change in US foreign policy with Trump or Clinton.

I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.

UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.

How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.

jared_7 wrote:

UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.

How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.

Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?

Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.

The FBI might yet have a say in it.

jared_7 wrote:How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.

From prison? A rich person? in America?

UGagain wrote:

jared_7 wrote:

UGagain wrote:I wouldn't write Bernie off just yet.

How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.

Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?

Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.

The FBI might yet have a say in it.

Did you see what happened in Nevada? Unbelievable (well, maybe not)

jared_7 wrote:

UGagain wrote:

jared_7 wrote:
How do you see that happening? I think if the DNC had showed any ounce of reason, fairness or strategy Bernie would have a chance, but at this stage it looks like Hillary could be found guilty of first degree murder and they would still back her to run her campaign from prison.

Well they're certainly pulling out all the stops. You have to wonder why they're panicking. And can they control the super delegates?

Expect (more) massive fraud in New Jersey and California.

The FBI might yet have a say in it.

Did you see what happened in Nevada? Unbelievable (well, maybe not)

All that violence that didn't actually happen?

The DNC is nuts.

Nina Turner rubbishing Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

Trump down with the people eating KFC....on a plate, with a knife and fork....on his private jet:

Class. You can't teach it. What an odd photo to stage.

Why do so many politicians look so ill at ease or out of sorts when eating?

WaspInWales wrote:Trump down with the people eating KFC....on a plate, with a knife and fork....on his private jet:

Mmmm... Original Recipe, too. Who doesn't like KFC??? It's comfort food. The peanuts they serve on that flight weren't doing it for him.

The US to elect a President who talks about himself in the 3rd person..?.

I'm not a qualified psychologist.........

Coco wrote: Mmmm... Original Recipe, too. Who doesn't like KFC??? It's comfort food.

It's vile, poor quality chicken prepared with too much salt, ill spiced, and cooked greasy in cheap and nasty oil. I think I last had KFC in around 2007, bought on the way home whilst a little under the influence. Next day the lounge stank as I'd left most of it untouched on the coffee table. I remember it as it turns out condensation will form under the bag and you can mark a coffee table leaving such, which some people may choose to remark on, and then you get to go furniture shopping

So, vile food for a vile man.

Digby wrote:

Coco wrote: Mmmm... Original Recipe, too. Who doesn't like KFC??? It's comfort food.

It's vile, poor quality chicken prepared with too much salt, ill spiced, and cooked greasy in cheap and nasty oil. I think I last had KFC in around 2007, bought on the way home whilst a little under the influence. Next day the lounge stank as I'd left most of it untouched on the coffee table. I remember it as it turns out condensation will form under the bag and you can mark a coffee table leaving such, which some people may choose to remark on, and then you get to go furniture shopping

So, vile food for a vile man.

You're just a party pooper Digby. Plain and simple.

Yep. KFC is the absolute pits.