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Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:15 am
by Which Tyler
Digby wrote:Which Tyler wrote:Digby wrote:So Damian Green lied, a lot. Preusmably Davis will resign now too.
We can only hope; but... David Davis? A man of principals? That just doesn't sound likely to me.
I'm confident he's not the sort to lie to parliament or anyone else
Fool Paliament once, shame on you
Fool Parliament... erm, is that 14 times? shame on... shame on... you can't fool parliament again!
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:23 pm
by Digby
In a surprise move David Davis hasn't resigned despite saying he would, who knew. Though given Damian Green had to resign for lying one is left to wonder how many lives can Davis have left?
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:19 pm
by Mellsblue
This tickled me:
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:51 am
by Digby
The PM is giving an interview on Marr's show, and tbh has nothing to say, on anything, it's all just placeholder statements committing to nothing. She is though much more orange than normal, not quite Trump orange, but I assume they've tried to make her look human with the extra colouring, might have worked better if some of the extra lipstick hadn't ended up on her teeth
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:18 pm
by Zhivago
Digby wrote:The PM is giving an interview on Marr's show, and tbh has nothing to say, on anything, it's all just placeholder statements committing to nothing. She is though much more orange than normal, not quite Trump orange, but I assume they've tried to make her look human with the extra colouring, might have worked better if some of the extra lipstick hadn't ended up on her teeth
She was super cold when told about that case of someone stuck for hours waiting in an ambulance to see a doctor.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:32 pm
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:The PM is giving an interview on Marr's show, and tbh has nothing to say, on anything,
Works for Corbyn. If you can’t beat them - don’t forget Corbyn won the GE - join them.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:40 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:Digby wrote:The PM is giving an interview on Marr's show, and tbh has nothing to say, on anything,
Works for Corbyn. If you can’t beat them - don’t forget Corbyn won the GE - join them.
Not sure what they could/should do actually. Saying nothing isn't going to work for a government, but they've cut the police and military, they're going against the economy with Brexit, and those are their strong areas as Tories.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:06 pm
by Which Tyler
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:30 pm
by Mellsblue
Just when you think UK politics is at the bottom some idiot manages to prove you wrong.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:10 pm
by Digby
In his defence he says he didn't make the connection between the brand name and the massacre, which of course is highly believable, so maybe we're judging a man who simply likes to put a loaf of bread on his head and be photoed doing so (using a very loose definition of bread what with it being mass produced crap)
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:25 am
by Digby
Boris running to the defence of Toby Young and his 'banter' has brought forward some old comments by Boris, whether on a Labour Party Conference and “The real reason why Blackpool is buzzing with glamorous women is surely that they scent victory,” he wrote. “It is not the great smell of Brut that makes John Prescott attractive. It is the whiff of power. With the fickleness of their sex, they are following the polls.” or the of course reasonable “If gay marriage was OK – and I was uncertain on the issue – then I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between three men, as well as two men, or indeed three men and a dog.”
One assumes the various ramblings of Boris will see him continue with one of the highest offices in the country, thank heavens for strong and stable leadership values.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:11 pm
by Digby
In the event it's all gone a bit panto, Grayling announced as new party chair swiftly followed by a claim that he hasn't
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:44 pm
by Digby
Cabinet reshuffle eventually confirmed Brandon Lewis as the new Conservative Party Chairman, seems some people really do like those blue passports coming back
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:40 pm
by Which Tyler
Have we ever had such a week PM?
We know she's been been dead woman walking ever since shooting herself in the foot in the OP for this thread. But her Health Secretary not only refuses to be fired in a reshuffle, but actually adds to his brief. The reshuffle to bring in more females results in her most prominent female quitting in protest. The man she throws her weight behind quits the very next day...
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:46 pm
by Digby
Which Tyler wrote:Have we ever had such a week PM?..
Seems comparable to Major and Brown, at least toward the end of their tenures. May moved quickly to such point by starting like it was the end of her tenure
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:54 pm
by Mellsblue
Which Tyler wrote: her Health Secretary not only refuses to be fired in a reshuffle, but actually adds to his brief...
Where did you hear this?!?!? Hunt is incredibly highly thought of and the only move he was making was a promotion - possibly chancellor until Hammond saved himself at the budget or Chairman. Anything else is rubbish. No idea how his new/added role came about but it makes sense. Hopefully, it'll be reflected in policy rather than just being a pointless rebranding.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:01 pm
by Mellsblue
Which Tyler wrote: The reshuffle to bring in more females results in her most prominent female quitting in protest....
And who is this? Greening? She went kicking and screaming - she was desperate to hold on to Education. She quit after being offered a demotion. Also, her most prominent female is Rudd. I'm no fan of May but lets try and stick to facts.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:57 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:Which Tyler wrote: her Health Secretary not only refuses to be fired in a reshuffle, but actually adds to his brief...
Where did you hear this?!?!?
Hunt is incredibly highly thought of and the only move he was making was a promotion - possibly chancellor until Hammond saved himself at the budget or Chairman. Anything else is rubbish. No idea how his new/added role came about but it makes sense. Hopefully, it'll be reflected in policy rather than just being a pointless rebranding.
By who and for what reason?
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:41 pm
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote:Which Tyler wrote: her Health Secretary not only refuses to be fired in a reshuffle, but actually adds to his brief...
Where did you hear this?!?!?
Hunt is incredibly highly thought of and the only move he was making was a promotion - possibly chancellor until Hammond saved himself at the budget or Chairman. Anything else is rubbish. No idea how his new/added role came about but it makes sense. Hopefully, it'll be reflected in policy rather than just being a pointless rebranding.
By who and for what reason?
The powers (mostly) that be in the Conservative party, for being a Conservative Health Secretary dealing with what he's had to deal with and not being hounded out. Most think he's done a good job in a bad situation not of his making (the reorg of his hapless predecessor), and that he has pushed through necessary but controversial reforms - junior doctors, performance tables and moving (slowly) away from the secretive culture over mistakes/witch-hunt of whistle blowers to a proactive reporting system, to name the most important.
He is/would be seen as a potential leader if it weren't for the fact he dared to take on the NHS sacred cow and has therefore now become too toxic.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:49 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote:
Where did you hear this?!?!? Hunt is incredibly highly thought of and the only move he was making was a promotion - possibly chancellor until Hammond saved himself at the budget or Chairman. Anything else is rubbish. No idea how his new/added role came about but it makes sense. Hopefully, it'll be reflected in policy rather than just being a pointless rebranding.
By who and for what reason?
The powers (mostly) that be in the Conservative party, for being a Conservative Health Secretary dealing with what he's had to deal with and not being hounded out. Most think he's done a good job in a bad situation not of his making (the reorg of his hapless predecessor), and that he has pushed through necessary but controversial reforms - junior doctors, performance tables and moving (slowly) away from the secretive culture over mistakes/witch-hunt of whistle blowers to a proactive reporting system, to name the most important.
He is/would be seen as a potential leader if it weren't for the fact he dared to take on the NHS sacred cow and has therefore now become too toxic.
Ah. Well if the powers that be like him I suppose that's something. I've never met anyone in the NHS or civil service (or indeed anywhere else) with a nice word to say about him, not even a neutral word tbh
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:03 pm
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote:Digby wrote:
By who and for what reason?
The powers (mostly) that be in the Conservative party, for being a Conservative Health Secretary dealing with what he's had to deal with and not being hounded out. Most think he's done a good job in a bad situation not of his making (the reorg of his hapless predecessor), and that he has pushed through necessary but controversial reforms - junior doctors, performance tables and moving (slowly) away from the secretive culture over mistakes/witch-hunt of whistle blowers to a proactive reporting system, to name the most important.
He is/would be seen as a potential leader if it weren't for the fact he dared to take on the NHS sacred cow and has therefore now become too toxic.
Ah. Well if the powers that be like him I suppose that's something. I've never met anyone in the NHS or civil service (or indeed anywhere else) with a nice word to say about him, not even a neutral word tbh
Seeing as we were talking about a Conservative govt party reshuffle, and the insinuation that Hunt was to be sacked, I assumed that it was implicit that when saying 'Hunt is incredibly highly thought of' I was talking about the power brokers in the Conservative party.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:21 pm
by Mellsblue
Sad day for ‘don’t know’ as they slip to second place:
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:47 pm
by Digby
I'm amazed don't know isn't a clear winner
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:22 pm
by Mellsblue
I think it was during the autumn.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:33 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:I think it was during the autumn.
Since when May has vacillated, and Corbyn has done..., well nothing. Go figure