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Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:56 am
by Big D
For a professional team it's outrageously bad to get caught like that.

Poor by Daly.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:04 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
Blistering pace so far. Lions might want to ease off the kicking game for a bit, if they give the AIG's that much ball on the 10 meter line for the full 80 it's going to get painful.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:17 am
by Big D
What a try

Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:18 am
by Big D
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Blistering pace so far. Lions might want to ease off the kicking game for a bit, if they give the AIG's that much ball on the 10 meter line for the full 80 it's going to get painful.
Yeah that's the danger of using box kicks.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:21 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
Big D wrote:What a try
That was class. Williams first step there was unreal. Great support lines n' aw.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:37 am
by Big D
Tackle stats are mental. George and Not toby on 13 already

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:40 am
by Big D
They are having a real go which is great to see.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:44 am
by Big D
To be fair, despite not wanting him on tour AWJ is the wrong lock to sub. Kruis has been poor imo.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:55 am
by Big D
If Murray is going to cheat at least fucking do it right. If you're going to kick it then make sure you kick it.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:03 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
Not sure Gatland is getting these subs entirely right.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:07 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
cashead wrote:The guys who started for the Lions must be gassed. Furlong looked absolutely shattered going off.
No doubt, it's being played at a mentally high pace.

Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:09 am
by Big D
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Not sure Gatland is getting these subs entirely right.
Agreed. I'm a big Kruis fan but he's been pish. POM and Teo had been doing their job well too.

Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:12 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
Big D wrote:
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Not sure Gatland is getting these subs entirely right.
Agreed. I'm a big Kruis fan but he's been pish. POM and Teo had been doing their job well too.
Never seen him play so poorly. Got to feel for him, if you are going to have an off day, today isn't the ideal day to do it.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:14 am
by Big D
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:
Big D wrote:
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Not sure Gatland is getting these subs entirely right.
Agreed. I'm a big Kruis fan but he's been pish. POM and Teo had been doing their job well too.
Never seen him play so poorly. Got to feel for him, if you are going to have an off day, today isn't the ideal day to do it.
I just can't see the logic for taking off AWJ rather than Kruis.

Wheels are coming off now though.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:19 am
by Big D
So many dull penalties too.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:23 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
cashead wrote:
Big D wrote:
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:
Never seen him play so poorly. Got to feel for him, if you are going to have an off day, today isn't the ideal day to do it.
I just can't see the logic for taking off AWJ rather than Kruis.

Wheels are coming off now though.
Jones was struggling to keep up with the pace of the game. Gatland was caught between a rock and a hard place with that call.
Aye, I'm pretty sure he always planned to yank AWJ at some point. Sure he wouldn't be expecting Kruis to be a bit ropey.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:26 am
by Big D
They deserved that score.

Think some changes needed for next week.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:27 am
by Big D
ABs are just very very good.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:29 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
Big D wrote:ABs are just very very good.
Lesson in finishing chances really. It's unreal how quickly the AIG's can run up a big score on you by just being clinical.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:18 am
by switchskier
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Blistering pace so far. Lions might want to ease off the kicking game for a bit, if they give the AIG's that much ball on the 10 meter line for the full 80 it's going to get painful.
Good call oh rugby sage.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:05 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Big D wrote:They deserved that score.

Think some changes needed for next week.
What though? It's too late to sack Gatland - who amusingly looked like he was shitting himself from the off. Player-wise it's difficult to see where we make a significant difference. For the game we were trying to play Hogg would have been perfect but...

Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:23 pm
by Big D
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Big D wrote:They deserved that score.

Think some changes needed for next week.
What though? It's too late to sack Gatland - who amusingly looked like he was shitting himself from the off. Player-wise it's difficult to see where we make a significant difference. For the game we were trying to play Hogg would have been perfect but...
Not saying I'd make all these changes:

I thought Vunipola was quiet.

Both second rows were differing levels of poor and could be replaced. As much as I think Kruis is good he shat the bed a bit. Itoje and Lawes could come into consideration.

We couldn't slow their ball down but I'm not sure I'd change the back row.

Farrell was poor, Sexton should come in IMO.

Teo was decent on D but if there aren't going to be runners off him and he can't pick a pass a different 12 could be considered. He was doing what was asked to be fair but did it really work? We have to say no.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:25 pm
by Donny osmond
Big D wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Big D wrote:They deserved that score.

Think some changes needed for next week.
What though? It's too late to sack Gatland - who amusingly looked like he was shitting himself from the off. Player-wise it's difficult to see where we make a significant difference. For the game we were trying to play Hogg would have been perfect but...
Not saying I'd make all these changes:

I thought Vunipola was quiet.

Both second rows were differing levels of poor and could be replaced. As much as I think Kruis is good he shat the bed a bit. Itoje and Lawes could come into consideration.

We couldn't slow their ball down but I'm not sure I'd change the back row.

Farrell was poor, Sexton should come in IMO.

Teo was decent on D but if there aren't going to be runners off him and he can't pick a pass a different 12 could be considered. He was doing what was asked to be fair but did it really work? We have to say no.
I would make exactly those changes

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Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:30 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Does either of you think that those changes will make a substantial difference? I'd probably make them as well but what you might gain from slightly better players you might lose from cohesion as you change the team again.

Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:13 pm
by Big D
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Does either of you think that those changes will make a substantial difference? I'd probably make them as well but what you might gain from slightly better players you might lose from cohesion as you change the team again.
I don't thinking will but he has to try IMO. Bringing in Sexton shouldn't disrupt too much for example.