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I've never broken a bone but it seems strange to me how easily these guys shake it off.

Oakboy wrote:Reports today say Watson out for France but Marler fit.

Watson out for a few weeks after that too

Im much happier to see Nowell selected now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38800548

Slade too, for that matter.

Mikey Brown wrote:I've never broken a bone but it seems strange to me how easily these guys shake it off.

He didn't actually break his leg, he fractured it which, AFAIK, is not snapping the bone but just cracking it

Mikey Brown wrote:Im much happier to see Nowell selected now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38800548

Slade too, for that matter.

I wonder how much faster this will make him.

This might just nudge him ahead of our front 5.

With the wind behind him.

belgarion wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:I've never broken a bone but it seems strange to me how easily these guys shake it off.

He didn't actually break his leg, he fractured it which, AFAIK, is not snapping the bone but just cracking it

Ah, thought that was just fancy talk for broken.

belgarion wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:I've never broken a bone but it seems strange to me how easily these guys shake it off.

He didn't actually break his leg, he fractured it which, AFAIK, is not snapping the bone but just cracking it

Errr... What?

What part of a cracked thing isn't broken? A fracture is a break, is a crack.

Which Tyler wrote:

belgarion wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:I've never broken a bone but it seems strange to me how easily these guys shake it off.

He didn't actually break his leg, he fractured it which, AFAIK, is not snapping the bone but just cracking it

Errr... What?

What part of a cracked thing isn't broken? A fracture is a break, is a crack.

Think of it like this a fracture is what you get when a stone hits the windscreen of your car & it cracks, while a break
is if you got a twig & bent it until it snaps into separate pieces

Described as a 'hairline' fracture in today's DT, which indicates to me, as a layman, that nothing in the bone's structure was displaced - presumably why it could heal so quickly?

And I would imagine he gets special casts, tailored physio, dietary aids, etc that aren't available on the NHS.

Puja

belgarion wrote:Think of it like this a fracture is what you get when a stone hits the windscreen of your car & it cracks, while a break
is if you got a twig & bent it until it snaps into separate pieces

Ok - so what part of that cracked windscreen isn't broken?

Trust me on this, a fracture is a crack, which in turn, is a break.
What (I think) you mean is the difference between a fracture with good Apposition and Alignment; versus a fracture with more severe Ap&Al.

A "Hairline fracture" (thanks @Oakboy) means a broken bone with god Ap&Al - it has broken through, but is still exactly where it should be, just broken; and will heal far more quickly and healthily than the alternative; it is still bropken, it is still fractured.
A much better analogy would be a stick of chalk; a "hairline fracture" or a "clean break" would be one you've broken, and put back together again so that the crack is virtually invisible - it's still broken though.

Which Tyler wrote:

belgarion wrote:Think of it like this a fracture is what you get when a stone hits the windscreen of your car & it cracks, while a break
is if you got a twig & bent it until it snaps into separate pieces

Ok - so what part of that cracked windscreen isn't broken?

Trust me on this, a fracture is a crack, which in turn, is a break.
What (I think) you mean is the difference between a fracture with good Apposition and Alignment; versus a fracture with more severe Ap&Al.

A "Hairline fracture" (thanks @Oakboy) means a broken bone with god Ap&Al - it has broken through, but is still exactly where it should be, just broken; and will heal far more quickly and healthily than the alternative; it is still bropken, it is still fractured.
A much better analogy would be a stick of chalk; a "hairline fracture" or a "clean break" would be one you've broken, and put back together again so that the crack is virtually invisible - it's still broken though.

All the windscreen that isn't cracked, it is still in one piece it just has a crack in it.

OK - so a broken bone is only broken at the point that it's cracked; that it's not entirely shattered isn't really the point here.

This has to be the worst pedantry argument that the internrt has ever had.

Puja

Aye. Can barely even remember why we were discussing Marler's car windscreen in the first place.

I thinking its a cracking read.

Get off my thread.

I thought that would cheer you up.

Puja wrote:This has to be the worst pedantry argument that the internrt has ever had.

You've obviously never spent much time on medical-type boards... or entertainment for that matter.
This wouldn't even rank in the top 1,000 for pedantry somewhere like IMDB

'compound fracture'. The Rolls-Royce of fractures.

The following 25 players have been retained by England:

Forwards: D Cole (Leicester), E Genge (Leicester), J George (Saracens), T Harrison (Northampton), D Hartley (Northampton), J Haskell (Wasps), N Hughes (Wasps), M Itoje (Saracens), G Kruis (Saracens), J Launchbury (Wasps), C Lawes (Northampton), J Marler (Harlequins), M Mullan (Wasps), K Sinckler (Harlequins), T Wood (Northampton)

Backs: M Brown (Harlequins), D Care (Harlequins), E Daly (Wasps), O Farrell (Saracens), G Ford (Bath), J Joseph (Bath), J May (Gloucester), J Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), B Te'o (Worcester Warriors), B Youngs (Leicester)

So backs as standard, decisions over starting pack and bench forwards. I'd go;

1. Marler
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Lawes
5. Kruis
6. Itoje
7. Wood
8. Hughes

George, Sinckler, Genge, Launchbury, Harrison

If Kruis is out, Launch comes in to start and Haskell to bench.

I know that Kruis is important to the lineout, but Launchberry offers way more round the park for me and should be ahead of him.

I bow to Eddie's greater knowledge, buy long term I think Launch is the better option.

I think this 6N is cursed http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38819336