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Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:12 pm
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:26 pm Well yes but you could say, here’s half your money, go work but not for a tier 1 nation til 2025 say
Is that legal?
I didn't think you could put (legally binding) clauses in contracts for what someone who's not contracted can do.

Gardening leave is one thing, but "you're released from your contract, but still have contractual obligations" seems a very different thing.
As far as I could tell, he was basically doing some video analysis whilst on gardening leave.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:19 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:12 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:26 pm Well yes but you could say, here’s half your money, go work but not for a tier 1 nation til 2025 say
Is that legal?
I didn't think you could put (legally binding) clauses in contracts for what someone who's not contracted can do.

Gardening leave is one thing, but "you're released from your contract, but still have contractual obligations" seems a very different thing.
As far as I could tell, he was basically doing some video analysis whilst on gardening leave.
He’s not on gardening leave if still working. And you can certainly negotiate terms of leaving under a compromise agreement including not going to a competitor- which would likely be in the main contract tbh.
Compromise agreement is the key bit to remember.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:20 pm
by Banquo
Timbo wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:27 pm Max Malins has ruptured his achilles. Had heard he was weighing up a renewal from Bristol and a good offer in France. Presumably this injury puts the kibosh on any French move.
Poor lad.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:04 am
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:19 pm
Which Tyler wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:12 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:26 pm Well yes but you could say, here’s half your money, go work but not for a tier 1 nation til 2025 say
Is that legal?
I didn't think you could put (legally binding) clauses in contracts for what someone who's not contracted can do.

Gardening leave is one thing, but "you're released from your contract, but still have contractual obligations" seems a very different thing.
As far as I could tell, he was basically doing some video analysis whilst on gardening leave.
He’s not on gardening leave if still working. And you can certainly negotiate terms of leaving under a compromise agreement including not going to a competitor- which would likely be in the main contract tbh.
Compromise agreement is the key bit to remember.
As far as I understand it, non-compete causes that stop staff from joining a direct competitor are nearly impossible to enforce as it's restricting freedom to work. I may be wrong as I'm not a lawyer.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:05 am
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:04 am
Banquo wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:19 pm
Which Tyler wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:12 pm

Is that legal?
I didn't think you could put (legally binding) clauses in contracts for what someone who's not contracted can do.

Gardening leave is one thing, but "you're released from your contract, but still have contractual obligations" seems a very different thing.
As far as I could tell, he was basically doing some video analysis whilst on gardening leave.
He’s not on gardening leave if still working. And you can certainly negotiate terms of leaving under a compromise agreement including not going to a competitor- which would likely be in the main contract tbh.
Compromise agreement is the key bit to remember.
As far as I understand it, non-compete causes that stop staff from joining a direct competitor are nearly impossible to enforce as it's restricting freedom to work. I may be wrong as I'm not a lawyer.
Nonetheless many contracts and compromise agreements have them and in a high profile environment you couldn’t exactly hide. If it’s legitimately a threat to your ‘business’ then they are legal, providing there is a time limit.
There were moves to make it much harder to have these clauses in 2023 but not sure of the outturn.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:12 pm
by Dozey
Having the clause in the contract and the clause being enforceable are two different things!

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:32 pm
by Banquo
Dozey wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:12 pm Having the clause in the contract and the clause being enforceable are two different things!
of course, but suspect it would deter a prospectve employer in such a visible field.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:13 am
by Timbo
Sounds like Fasogbon has done his achilles. Won’t see him again until next season if that’s the case.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:39 am
by FKAS
Timbo wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:13 am Sounds like Fasogbon has done his achilles. Won’t see him again until next season if that’s the case.
Shame, he was playing really well.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:16 am
by Which Tyler
On the one hand, dammit - he was playing and developing well.
On the other hand.. he was already in danger of having been overplayed this season.

ETA: FTR, I'm NOT saying that this injury was a result of playing too much