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Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:49 am
by Puja
I only got to watch the first half, where we looked fairly solid. What happened in the second?

Puja

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:50 am
by Mikey Brown
So, didn't manage to catch any of that, biggest losers? Gatland? Itoje? Nowell? Sexton again? Just guessing by comments on here.

How were Biggar and Haskell?

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:52 am
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote:I only got to watch the first half, where we looked fairly solid. What happened in the second?

Puja
Three consecutive pieces of magic for West's try.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:54 am
by zer0
Only watched the first half and caught the end of the second, but SBW's try must have to be the single most Blues thing I've ever seen. Earned an eminently kickable penalty? Good. Missed relatively simple kick? Bad. Said missed relatively simple kick bounces off the uprights and results in a 1-in-a-million sequence of events that ends with the ball touched down by a man with Orangutan arms surgically grafted on in replace of his regular ones? F*cken ace.

West's try was pretty good too.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:55 am
by Mellsblue
Mikey Brown wrote:So, didn't manage to catch any of that, biggest losers? Gatland? Itoje? Nowell? Sexton again? Just guessing by comments on here.

How were Biggar and Haskell?
Biggar was average and lasted 35 mins. Haskell was utter, utter gash.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:55 am
by MrK
Mikey Brown wrote:So, didn't manage to catch any of that, biggest losers? Gatland? Itoje? Nowell? Sexton again? Just guessing by comments on here.

How were Biggar and Haskell?

Itoje played well, just the histrionics that go with him

Nowell, Sexton and Haskell werent great, neither was Biggar but only on for 30 as got injured.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:57 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:I only got to watch the first half, where we looked fairly solid. What happened in the second?

Puja
Three consecutive pieces of magic for West's try.
Is not magic. There are 2 or 3 of those every Super Rugby match featuring a NZ franchise. That one was just a bit of support running and accurate offloading.


The problem is that we scored only 16 points and scored only one try. Why? Because Gats thinks he can bludgeon his way to the line and that mere attrition is enough to win it. Listening now to his post match interview he seems surprised there were a few moments of excellence leading to tries. And now he's saying it won't be that big a step up to the ABs. FFS!

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:58 am
by Spy
As usual, the Blues have no difficulty despatching foreign opposition.

That was a lot of fun. Winning try was a stunner. Was just waiting for the Blues to concede a penalty during that 2 pod time runout, followed by the inevitable kick to corner and maul try. Sure enough we fucked it up, but got lucky with the Lions lineout flub.

Lions dominated set piece, but I think they'll find the remaining nz teams stronger there than the Blues.

Bloody fantastic. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:00 am
by Mellsblue
MrK wrote: Haskell......made tackles
I'd agree with most what you say but would dispute the above. He missed a bucket full. Nowell will get blamed for their first try, and he does deserve some, but it all stemmed from Haskell 'rushing' up, getting there late and leaving the outside backs outnumbered.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:03 am
by Stom
I didn't see it all, just bits and pieces, but most of what I saw pointed at a failure in coaching rather than the players. It's embarrassing.

Ruck work was ok-ish, but Webb was appalling, Biggar and Sexton appalling, and the rest of the backs had nothing, therefore, to play with. Typical bloody Gatland.

It's an embarrassment. We're just playing on that bloody "NH can't pass, have terrible handling skills" nonsense, when if you substituted Gatland for Eddie Jones, we'd have won that game comfortably.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:04 am
by Mellsblue
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:I only got to watch the first half, where we looked fairly solid. What happened in the second?

Puja
Three consecutive pieces of magic for West's try.
Is not magic. There are 2 or 3 of those every Super Rugby match featuring a NZ franchise. That one was just a bit of support running and accurate offloading.


The problem is that we scored only 16 points and scored only one try. Why? Because Gats thinks he can bludgeon his way to the line and that mere attrition is enough to win it. Listening now to his post match interview he seems surprised there were a few moments of excellence leading to tries. And now he's saying it won't be that big a step up to the ABs. FFS!
I'll stick to magic. Other than Itoje jumping out out of the line it wasn't errors from the Lions just superb play from the Blues players involved. It was superb decision making, superb offloads, superb timing and superb lines. Magic.

Yep, the backs are blunt and clueless.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:06 am
by Timbo
Pack - 7.5/10
Backline - 2/10

Has there been one line break from a single Lions back in 2 games? Kicking game mediocre too.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:07 am
by Mellsblue
Timbo wrote:Pack - 7.5/10
Backline - 2/10

Has there been one line break from a single Lions back in 2 games? Kicking game mediocre too.
Fear not, Davies will be at 13 on Saturday......

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:15 am
by jared_7
Mellsblue wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Three consecutive pieces of magic for West's try.
Is not magic. There are 2 or 3 of those every Super Rugby match featuring a NZ franchise. That one was just a bit of support running and accurate offloading.


The problem is that we scored only 16 points and scored only one try. Why? Because Gats thinks he can bludgeon his way to the line and that mere attrition is enough to win it. Listening now to his post match interview he seems surprised there were a few moments of excellence leading to tries. And now he's saying it won't be that big a step up to the ABs. FFS!
I'll stick to magic. Other than Itoje jumping out out of the line it wasn't errors from the Lions just superb play from the Blues players involved. It was superb decision making, superb offloads, superb timing and superb lines. Magic.

Yep, the backs are blunt and clueless.
First time you can say that about the Blues all year so make of that what you will.

If its simply "magic" from NZ's last placed super rugby side then good luck with the rest.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:25 am
by Timbo
Mellsblue wrote:
Timbo wrote:Pack - 7.5/10
Backline - 2/10

Has there been one line break from a single Lions back in 2 games? Kicking game mediocre too.
Fear not, Davies will be at 13 on Saturday......
Jon Davies outside Te'o I reckon. You can't accuse Gatland of not committing to his game plan.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:38 am
by skidger
Mellsblue wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Three consecutive pieces of magic for West's try.
Is not magic. There are 2 or 3 of those every Super Rugby match featuring a NZ franchise. That one was just a bit of support running and accurate offloading.


The problem is that we scored only 16 points and scored only one try. Why? Because Gats thinks he can bludgeon his way to the line and that mere attrition is enough to win it. Listening now to his post match interview he seems surprised there were a few moments of excellence leading to tries. And now he's saying it won't be that big a step up to the ABs. FFS!
I'll stick to magic. Other than Itoje jumping out out of the line it wasn't errors from the Lions just superb play from the Blues players involved. It was superb decision making, superb offloads, superb timing and superb lines. Magic.

Yep, the backs are blunt and clueless.
Black magic actually. Offloads,great timing and quick thinking.........i have heard of it before now. Time to send for Mike Brown.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:38 am
by Mellsblue
Timbo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Timbo wrote:Pack - 7.5/10
Backline - 2/10

Has there been one line break from a single Lions back in 2 games? Kicking game mediocre too.
Fear not, Davies will be at 13 on Saturday......
Jon Davies outside Te'o I reckon. You can't accuse Gatland of not committing to his game plan.
Haha. Yep.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:47 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:

Yep, the backs are blunt and clueless.
Apt names for a centre pairing fielded by Gats............especially if spoonerised!

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:58 am
by Lizard
Imagine what would have happened if the Blues had a competent 10 for the first 50 minutes and a functioning set piece?

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:08 pm
by zer0
We'll find out on Saturday.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:26 pm
by Timbo
Lizard wrote:Imagine what would have happened if the Blues had a competent 10 for the first 50 minutes and a functioning set piece?
So if the Blues had a better pack and a better 10..? Ok, now imagine if the Lions had competent coaches and a functioning backline. Two can play this game boyo.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:26 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
jared_7 wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Is not magic. There are 2 or 3 of those every Super Rugby match featuring a NZ franchise. That one was just a bit of support running and accurate offloading.


The problem is that we scored only 16 points and scored only one try. Why? Because Gats thinks he can bludgeon his way to the line and that mere attrition is enough to win it. Listening now to his post match interview he seems surprised there were a few moments of excellence leading to tries. And now he's saying it won't be that big a step up to the ABs. FFS!
I'll stick to magic. Other than Itoje jumping out out of the line it wasn't errors from the Lions just superb play from the Blues players involved. It was superb decision making, superb offloads, superb timing and superb lines. Magic.

Yep, the backs are blunt and clueless.
First time you can say that about the Blues all year so make of that what you will.

If its simply "magic" from NZ's last placed super rugby side then good luck with the rest.
The Blues seem to score at least 1 try like that a game but do also tend to drop a couple and get punished by their NZ cousins.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:36 pm
by Numbers
Timbo wrote:Pack - 7.5/10
Backline - 2/10

Has there been one line break from a single Lions back in 2 games? Kicking game mediocre too.
They made 15 clean line breaks against the NZ Barbarians according to the stats.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:39 pm
by Numbers
As there was torrential rain for a large part of that match I'm not to critical of the style of play, what would concern me is when we play against better teams in better conditions.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:46 pm
by Adder
S. HOGG is actually very good at creating space for other players.

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