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Stones of granite wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:I’m not suggesting it’s good for the world by any means, but you can see why you might not have any incentive to learn a trade, work much harder, and probably not earn anywhere near as much.

Bear in mind I have no idea who this Ron Paul guy is I’m just talking about YouTube celebs in general.
At one time, I thought that my youngest boy was pissing his teenage years away by playing computer games all night, every night to the detriment of his school work, mental health etc.

I was wrong.

He was actually pissing away his teenage years WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE play computer games all night, every night to the detriment of his school work, mental health etc.

I have to confess that I am poorly equipped to deal with such fuckwittedness.
Ha. I can believe that. I thought my brain had broken when I first had somebody try to explain to me that there are subscription live-feeds of people playing computer games, and they make a shit-ton of money from it.
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morepork wrote:How do these cretins make a living by doing nothing in a virtual world that serves as a platform for nonsense? Wanker should sort himself out and learn a fucking trade.
Monetisation of their videos or streams on platforms like Youtube or Twitch, where views and subscriptions = cash, and additional platforms like Patreon where people who like their content can pay them a small dollar amount per month to support them. High subscription and viewership can also lead to sponsorship, and further opportunities like how the Swedish youtube guy PewDiePie was going to get a job creating content for Disney (presumably despite the fact that his videos consistent of him playing survival horror games like Outlast while screaming "rape" half the time), until he got caught on a Twitch stream casually dropping a certain word that starts with "n" and ends with "igger."
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cashead wrote:
morepork wrote:How do these cretins make a living by doing nothing in a virtual world that serves as a platform for nonsense? Wanker should sort himself out and learn a fucking trade.
Monetisation of their videos or streams on platforms like Youtube or Twitch, where views and subscriptions = cash, and additional platforms like Patreon where people who like their content can pay them a small dollar amount per month to support them. High subscription and viewership can also lead to sponsorship, and further opportunities like how the Swedish youtube guy PewDiePie was going to get a job creating content for Disney (presumably despite the fact that his videos consistent of him playing survival horror games like Outlast while screaming "rape" half the time), until he got caught on a Twitch stream casually dropping a certain word that starts with "n" and ends with "igger."
It doesn't seem to matter what these fuckwits say or do. They just offer an apology, throw in a few comments about it was a part of their past which they regret and doesn't reflect their true caring personality and that they love everyone. Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile in the real world, some people lose their jobs for the same comments and in some cases, face prosecution.

I don't get it.
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WaspInWales wrote:
cashead wrote:
morepork wrote:How do these cretins make a living by doing nothing in a virtual world that serves as a platform for nonsense? Wanker should sort himself out and learn a fucking trade.
Monetisation of their videos or streams on platforms like Youtube or Twitch, where views and subscriptions = cash, and additional platforms like Patreon where people who like their content can pay them a small dollar amount per month to support them. High subscription and viewership can also lead to sponsorship, and further opportunities like how the Swedish youtube guy PewDiePie was going to get a job creating content for Disney (presumably despite the fact that his videos consistent of him playing survival horror games like Outlast while screaming "rape" half the time), until he got caught on a Twitch stream casually dropping a certain word that starts with "n" and ends with "igger."
It doesn't seem to matter what these fuckwits say or do. They just offer an apology, throw in a few comments about it was a part of their past which they regret and doesn't reflect their true caring personality and that they love everyone. Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile in the real world, some people lose their jobs for the same comments and in some cases, face prosecution.

I don't get it.
Got my timeline wrong. The n-word incident happened after Disney fired PewDiePie did a stunt where he paid some guys to hold up a sign that said "Death to all Jews." The fall-out was that Youtube also demonetised a huge chunk of his videos, and pretty much all of his advertising sponsors walked away.

The larger Youtube channels and personalities are often financially penalised for problematic content, and a fair few would be part of networks owned by a larger corporation - case in point Rooster Teeth, a fairly successful Youtube venture, which has its own share of subsidiaries as part of its "network," while themselves being a subsidiary to a larger blanket organisation.
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Bing famous fo being famous, it’s an odd state of affairs but not that recent when you consider some of th celebrities before the internet really took off.

But I don’t get it either. With these shock video hosts, it’s aleays going to be a race to he bottom in order to be more controversial than their rivals which inevitably ends up with a line being crossed.

I have a friend who watches stuff in you tube most days, I don’t get that either.
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Canadian PM Trudeau draws the wrath of the US right. Organizations will not be able to apply for summer job grants unless they agree to sign a form attesting that neither their core mission nor the job being funded opposes human rights, which in Canada includes reproductive rights like abortion.

Evangelical summer camps are upset that they won't be able to hire camp counsellors and teach the kids women don't have the right to choose. They are free to continue teaching that, they just won't qualify for summer job grants.

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So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.
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Mikey Brown wrote:So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.
It sort of is give gun sales are way down under Trump, indeed I think Remmington has just filed for Chapter 11 to dodge monies owed. The NRA had managed to drive gun sales up under Obama by making people afraid Obama was coming to take their guns, when in reality Obama was as much a failure to act as any other president has been, but with Trump installed the fears over the 2nd amendment have fallen and with it gun sales.

However, the only sensible end scenario is going to take a long, long time to play out simply with falling gun sales. Someone at some point has got to put them on course to criminalise gun possession and really start to take huge number of guns across the board off the streets, and do that even though some people quite understandably like guns and are politically driven, zealots even, well organised and well funded. Trump's not going to do that, and so far nobody else has been willing to put gun legislation above their own career in politics.

The latest, well it's awful, but everyday there's gun violence in the USA even when there aren't the major stories breaking
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Mikey Brown wrote:So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.
18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.
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What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?
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OptimisticJock wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.
18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.
Could be worse, the teachers could have guns...
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Stones of granite wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.
18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.
Could be worse, the teachers could have guns...
Right Pat. That's the second time you've been caught selling blow on school grounds so its a Saturday detention. Get caught again and its your kneeecaps.
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SerjeantWildgoose wrote:What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?
Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.
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Stones of granite wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.
18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.
Could be worse, the teachers could have guns...
Baiting and even openly mocking teachers during school would take on a whole new level of risk, as would claiming the dog ate your homework
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Stones of granite wrote:
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?
Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.
To be fair, Boeing doesn't maintain an influential lobbying campaign to defend people's rights to fly their products into skyscrapers. I've been to Seattle, by the way. They should bomb the fecking place. It never stops pissing down and the only refuge is an endless parade of shit coffee shops.
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SerjeantWildgoose wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?
Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.
They should bomb the fecking place. It never stops pissing down and the only refuge is an endless parade of shit coffee shops.
Might as well bomb most of the U.K. then.
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Mellsblue wrote:
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:
Stones of granite wrote: Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.
They should bomb the fecking place. It never stops pissing down and the only refuge is an endless parade of shit coffee shops.
Might as well bomb most of the U.K. then.
Shit coffee shops aren't the only refuge from pissing rain where I live. There are some shit pubs too.
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Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.
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WaspInWales wrote:Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.
Perhaps they should ban it.
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Stones of granite wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.
Perhaps they should ban it.
Nah, guns can beat the nut cases.

Just need more guns. Teachers, Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers should all be carrying.

We have public places with defibrillators in the UK, perhaps in the US, they should have a loaded weapon in a box at the end of every street so a have-a-go hero can save the day. In order to stop the mental people getting access, just have a simple unlocking device which asks "are you mental?" Once you confirm you're not mental, away you go and save the day....or just shoot a load of people.
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He got pushed into deregulating the role of mental health in background checks for gun sales in Febuary last year. I can't think of a more inappropriate contributor to the dialogue than that repulsive fuckwit. I don't know how many dozens of kids have been murdered by assault rifles this year, but fuck me....it's too much.
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WaspInWales wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.
Perhaps they should ban it.
Nah, guns can beat the nut cases.

Just need more guns. Teachers, Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers should all be carrying.

We have public places with defibrillators in the UK, perhaps in the US, they should have a loaded weapon in a box at the end of every street so a have-a-go hero can save the day. In order to stop the mental people getting access, just have a simple unlocking device which asks "are you mental?" Once you confirm you're not mental, away you go and save the day....or just shoot a load of people.
Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers I get, but teachers? I thought we were trying to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues.
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Fucking hipsters...
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Stones of granite wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Stones of granite wrote: Perhaps they should ban it.
Nah, guns can beat the nut cases.

Just need more guns. Teachers, Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers should all be carrying.

We have public places with defibrillators in the UK, perhaps in the US, they should have a loaded weapon in a box at the end of every street so a have-a-go hero can save the day. In order to stop the mental people getting access, just have a simple unlocking device which asks "are you mental?" Once you confirm you're not mental, away you go and save the day....or just shoot a load of people.
Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers I get, but teachers? I thought we were trying to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues.
Good point, teaching assistants then.
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