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Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:52 am
by Banquo
Scrumhead wrote:Yep. Daly is the ideal candidate for that role, but I think Marchant is a bit underestimated. He really is a fantastic player, so I would be happy enough to see him get a proper opportunity rather than single-digit cameos.
at 13 would be my preference, outside Lawrence or Manu. Daly gives you more all round ability namely a humungeous boot as a blindside wing/third centre/conventional wing.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:58 am
by Mellsblue
I’ve got to agree with the argument to play Daly at wing. I reckon he’d a shoe in for the Lions and, arguably, world class....
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:01 am
by Banquo
Banquo wrote:Scrumhead wrote:Yep. Daly is the ideal candidate for that role, but I think Marchant is a bit underestimated. He really is a fantastic player, so I would be happy enough to see him get a proper opportunity rather than single-digit cameos.
at 13 would be my preference, outside Lawrence or Manu. Daly gives you more all round ability namely a humungeous boot as a blindside wing/third centre/conventional wing.

for sure
(shoo-in......)
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:08 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:Banquo wrote:Scrumhead wrote:Yep. Daly is the ideal candidate for that role, but I think Marchant is a bit underestimated. He really is a fantastic player, so I would be happy enough to see him get a proper opportunity rather than single-digit cameos.
at 13 would be my preference, outside Lawrence or Manu. Daly gives you more all round ability namely a humungeous boot as a blindside wing/third centre/conventional wing.

for sure
(shoo-in......)
Blimey. I’m really not with it today...
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:12 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:Banquo wrote:Banquo wrote:
at 13 would be my preference, outside Lawrence or Manu. Daly gives you more all round ability namely a humungeous boot as a blindside wing/third centre/conventional wing.

for sure
(shoo-in......)
Blimey. I’m really not with it today...
Me either. I replied to myself.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:37 am
by p/d
muppets
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 am
by Banquo
p/d wrote:muppets
yep

Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:08 am
by twitchy
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:11 am
by Puja
Ford in - tick
No lock in back row - tick
FFS - eh, could be worse
Pity Willis has missed out, but I understand why he has.
Puja
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:18 am
by Mikey Brown
Has Watson ever played centre before?
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:25 am
by Puja
Mikey Brown wrote:Has Watson ever played centre before?
No, but May has.
Puja
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:32 am
by Banquo
Be surprised if they used the three centre model, and if they do it will be Daly.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:47 am
by Oakboy
Just the one change as expected in the starting XV. Presumably, Lawrence is not fully fit to not even get a bench slot. If fit, I'd have started Marler against a French scrum.
Maybe, all the three-centre business was just because Jones did not consider that he had a good enough (roving) winger to replace Watson.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:48 am
by francoisfou
And the French team:
15. Dulin ; 14. Raka, 13. Mefana, 12. Danty, 11. Villière ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Couilloud (cap.) ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Tolofua, 6. Woki ; 5. Pesenti, 4. Geraci ; 3. Aldegheri, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar
Replacements : 16. Mauvaka, 17. Neti, 18. Atonio, 19 .Ducat, 20. Macalou, 21. Bézy, 22. Carbonel, 23. Barassi
Allez les bleus!
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:51 am
by Raggs
Would have liked to have seen Willis, or have him returned to Wasps. But if I recall, all teams are travelling with more reserves in case of a covid test.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:53 am
by fivepointer
Continuity in selection is usually a good thing. It means there is little for us to get excited about.
We'll have to wait until Sunday for the excitement........wont we?
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:54 am
by Puja
francoisfou wrote:And the French team:
15. Dulin ; 14. Raka, 13. Mefana, 12. Danty, 11. Villière ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Couilloud (cap.) ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Tolofua, 6. Woki ; 5. Pesenti, 4. Geraci ; 3. Aldegheri, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar
Replacements : 16. Mauvaka, 17. Neti, 18. Atonio, 19 .Ducat, 20. Macalou, 21. Bézy, 22. Carbonel, 23. Barassi
Allez les bleus!
Is that Christopher Tolofua playing 8?
Puja
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:01 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote:francoisfou wrote:And the French team:
15. Dulin ; 14. Raka, 13. Mefana, 12. Danty, 11. Villière ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Couilloud (cap.) ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Tolofua, 6. Woki ; 5. Pesenti, 4. Geraci ; 3. Aldegheri, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar
Replacements : 16. Mauvaka, 17. Neti, 18. Atonio, 19 .Ducat, 20. Macalou, 21. Bézy, 22. Carbonel, 23. Barassi
Allez les bleus!
Is that Christopher Tolofua playing 8?
Puja
I presume it's his younger brother Selevasio Tolofua who plays for Tolouse. Some good options for France in there. Could be closer than expected.
Nice to see England continuing with a backline that doesn't fucking work but never mind.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:11 pm
by tigran
Puja wrote:francoisfou wrote:And the French team:
15. Dulin ; 14. Raka, 13. Mefana, 12. Danty, 11. Villière ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Couilloud (cap.) ; 7. Jelonch, 8. Tolofua, 6. Woki ; 5. Pesenti, 4. Geraci ; 3. Aldegheri, 2. Bourgarit, 1. Kolingar
Replacements : 16. Mauvaka, 17. Neti, 18. Atonio, 19 .Ducat, 20. Macalou, 21. Bézy, 22. Carbonel, 23. Barassi
Allez les bleus!
Is that Christopher Tolofua playing 8?
Puja
Nope, his brother Selevasio, a very good player
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:15 pm
by tigran
Seems to me only two french players have more than 5 selections..
many of the rest will celebrate their first..
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:24 pm
by Oakboy
FKAS wrote:
Nice to see England continuing with a backline that doesn't fucking work but never mind.
Perhaps, if allowed to at least try to work, it will.

Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:34 pm
by FKAS
Oakboy wrote:FKAS wrote:
Nice to see England continuing with a backline that doesn't fucking work but never mind.
Perhaps, if allowed to at least try to work, it will.

Ford tried pretty hard last weekend. No strike runners tends to leave a 10 a little bit exposed.
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:35 pm
by francoisfou
FKAS wrote:
I presume it's his younger brother Selevasio Tolofua who plays for Tolouse.
Indeed it is, and he'll be pushing hard for 6N selection!!
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:53 pm
by Puja
francoisfou wrote:FKAS wrote:
I presume it's his younger brother Selevasio Tolofua who plays for Tolouse.
Indeed it is, and he'll be pushing hard for 6N selection!!
Useful knowledge. I know enough about French rugby to be dangerous, but clearly not enough to parse this selection.
Puja
Re: Le Crunch
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:31 pm
by FKAS
francoisfou wrote:FKAS wrote:
I presume it's his younger brother Selevasio Tolofua who plays for Tolouse.
Indeed it is, and he'll be pushing hard for 6N selection!!
I've seen him play for Tolouse a couple of times. He fits their style of play very well. He's a bit of a monster, very mobile.