Wasps & Wuss new developments (and Irish too?)

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Some hope:

https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-0 ... ersey-reds

A sponsor has approached the Jersey Reds offering to pay the salaries of players and staff for September, ITV News understands.

Negotiations are ongoing with a final decision expected on Monday.
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Sounds like active sabotage of the club.
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Hardly surprising there'd be a sting in the tail.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67193921
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Apparently Wasps now angling to join the URC
If a Welsh region pulls out:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-27993023
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As ever, if they're planning on playing in England, they'll need RFU approval - which they won't get.

A fact that's not stopped a rumour/speculation of a London based club in the URC every year for the last... what? got to be more than a decade
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Mrs Kvesic on the case!
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Not Wasps or Wuss but news about another fallen PRL original (plus some other northern ‘giants’):

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/o ... th-4393856
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Mellsblue wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:23 pm Not Wasps or Wuss but news about another fallen PRL original (plus some other northern ‘giants’):

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/o ... th-4393856
Donny are trying to pull all the Yorkshire clubs together to promote the game, good luck to them. Staggering how many coaches Tykes have tho, I'm assuming they can't be paid!
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Banquo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:40 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:23 pm Not Wasps or Wuss but news about another fallen PRL original (plus some other northern ‘giants’):

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/o ... th-4393856
Donny are trying to pull all the Yorkshire clubs together to promote the game, good luck to them. Staggering how many coaches Tykes have tho, I'm assuming they can't be paid!
Are they going to change their name to Yorkshire Knights? ;)
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Banquo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:40 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:23 pm Not Wasps or Wuss but news about another fallen PRL original (plus some other northern ‘giants’):

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/o ... th-4393856
Donny are trying to pull all the Yorkshire clubs together to promote the game, good luck to them. Staggering how many coaches Tykes have tho, I'm assuming they can't be paid!
How many are player coaches?
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FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:15 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:40 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:23 pm Not Wasps or Wuss but news about another fallen PRL original (plus some other northern ‘giants’):

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/o ... th-4393856
Donny are trying to pull all the Yorkshire clubs together to promote the game, good luck to them. Staggering how many coaches Tykes have tho, I'm assuming they can't be paid!
How many are player coaches?
I give up, how many are?

edit- quick website look....none.
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Banquo wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:11 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:15 pm
Banquo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:40 pm

Donny are trying to pull all the Yorkshire clubs together to promote the game, good luck to them. Staggering how many coaches Tykes have tho, I'm assuming they can't be paid!
How many are player coaches?
I give up, how many are?

edit- quick website look....none.
I didn't know, was just a guess as to why there might be so many.
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Wasps no longer considering temporary Sixways move as they pursue new stadium
Wasps have confirmed they will not use the former Sixways Stadium of Worcester Warriors as an interim home when the club is cleared to return to rugby.

The six-time Premiership champions were based in Coventry when they went into administration in October 2022.

Club legend Kenny Logan was hopeful they would initially choose Sixways, prior to relocating to Kent.

But a Wasps spokesperson said they will use a temporary base in the "Greater London and South East England Area".

The spokesperson added: "Wasps have never considered Sixways as a permanent home and were involved only to facilitate an option to play at the stadium on a temporary basis.

"Our intended permanent home is now in Kent, where we are actively pursuing our new stadium."
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Yes the pipe dream continues. Why use the readymade stadium and adapt the name of the club to Worcester Wasps, try to unite the two (one and a half) fan bases when you can try and set up everything from scratch in Kent where the locals don't want you. It's not like the training ground is a short trip to Sixways or anything. Mind you given the mess over the liquidations who knows who owns the training ground and Sixways now.
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FKAS wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:03 am Yes the pipe dream continues. Why use the readymade stadium and adapt the name of the club to Worcester Wasps, try to unite the two (one and a half) fan bases when you can try and set up everything from scratch in Kent where the locals don't want you. It's not like the training ground is a short trip to Sixways or anything. Mind you given the mess over the liquidations who knows who owns the training ground and Sixways now.
I am in favour - Wasps is historically a London club and the south-east beyond London is starved for professional sport. If they can find a decent set-up in that area, where they're not actively hated, they should - there's enough of their historic fans in the capital to make a decent supporter base and they've got little to no competition from other sports.

What they are not, and should never have been, is a Midlands side. Both sides of that merger would hate it.

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Puja wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:39 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:03 am Yes the pipe dream continues. Why use the readymade stadium and adapt the name of the club to Worcester Wasps, try to unite the two (one and a half) fan bases when you can try and set up everything from scratch in Kent where the locals don't want you. It's not like the training ground is a short trip to Sixways or anything. Mind you given the mess over the liquidations who knows who owns the training ground and Sixways now.
I am in favour - Wasps is historically a London club and the south-east beyond London is starved for professional sport. If they can find a decent set-up in that area, where they're not actively hated, they should - there's enough of their historic fans in the capital to make a decent supporter base and they've got little to no competition from other sports.

What they are not, and should never have been, is a Midlands side. Both sides of that merger would hate it.

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Couldn't agree more Puja. As a lifelong Wasps fan I concur. I'm from Sussex - the South East is crying out for a premiership rugby club - they'd fill it regularly, especially in a posh, rugby-ish area like Sevenoaks. I remember hoping when they moved to Coventry that they'd sweet talk their way into the Amex and share with Brighton... But a Saracens style stadium in Sevenoaks would be the making of them. Good rugby schools around too, lot's of clubs - they'd fill it regularly.

I say lifelong fan - being 95million in debt and owing hundreds of small businesses money tainted things a bit for me, such a sh*tshow.
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There's already a local group set up to oppose it. 28k seater stadium with a new training facility, parking and hotel. That's going to take years and cost a fortune. If they fill that stadium every week it would give them the highest average attendance in the Prem by a distance (iirc Tigers with just over 20k is the current benchmark.

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FKAS wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:31 pm There's already a local group set up to oppose it. 28k seater stadium with a new training facility, parking and hotel. That's going to take years and cost a fortune. If they fill that stadium every week it would give them the highest average attendance in the Prem by a distance (iirc Tigers with just over 20k is the current benchmark.

https://www.beesnotwasps.org/
Ah I hadn't read that - you're right, they won't fill a 28k seater stadium every week, absolutely not. I didn't realise the scale of it. What's Allianz Park? 10k? I can see that. 28k is like the Amex - no chance.
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Wasps averaged just under 10k in their last season in the Prem so if they are confident of getting more fans back down south I can see wanting some more seats but 28k is pretty massive for a rugby ground in the UK. Build to 15k with the potential to increase again is probably a wiser and cheaper plan.
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FKAS wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:13 pm Wasps averaged just under 10k in their last season in the Prem so if they are confident of getting more fans back down south I can see wanting some more seats but 28k is pretty massive for a rugby ground in the UK. Build to 15k with the potential to increase again is probably a wiser and cheaper plan.
Did they really? I wouldn't have guessed that. Mind you, there was a period in which they were giving away tickets for a quid or something so you never know. Agreed on the 15k.
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Yes to a pro team in the Amex, where are you from, Dasher? I grew up in Lewes.

However, it seems a shame the west midlands no longer have a pro club. Bit odd that there isn't a Brummie team at the top. A lot of rugby clubs round that way.
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Mr Mwenda wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:47 pm Yes to a pro team in the Amex, where are you from, Dasher? I grew up in Lewes.

However, it seems a shame the west midlands no longer have a pro club. Bit odd that there isn't a Brummie team at the top. A lot of rugby clubs round that way.
Hi mate - I grew up in the Lewes area too (love it) - over on the Kent border now which is prettier but not the same!

I used to dream of making a fortune and turning Lewes RFC or somewhere in Sussex into the next Saracens... Not happening unfortunately!
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TheDasher wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:08 pm
Mr Mwenda wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:47 pm Yes to a pro team in the Amex, where are you from, Dasher? I grew up in Lewes.

However, it seems a shame the west midlands no longer have a pro club. Bit odd that there isn't a Brummie team at the top. A lot of rugby clubs round that way.
Hi mate - I grew up in the Lewes area too (love it) - over on the Kent border now which is prettier but not the same!

I used to dream of making a fortune and turning Lewes RFC or somewhere in Sussex into the next Saracens... Not happening unfortunately!
How funny. Did you ever run out on the blue?

Living in Sweden, I miss Lewes something terrible. People ask me if I miss England but I usually say I actually miss Lewes/Sussex. It rather limits the job options when I periodically look at returning... I don't think I'd turn Lewes into Sarries but I'd definitely fix the boiler in the changing rooms. That'd be miracle enough.
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It is very odd there is no big rugby clubs in that area. You would have thought they would make up a large section of the twickenham crowd.
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