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[bruce]

Let's hope the Russian fans take this with good grace.

Looked like handball to me.

[WaspInWales]

Sums things up, one man advantage for a few seconds and we play it back to the keeper.

[bruce]

Wales win 3-0.

[WaspInWales]

Seconds remaining and we're fucking around with the ball outside the box. Get it in there!!

[bruce]

What's the odds Slovakia sneaking one!

[WaspInWales]

Well done Wales. That is how to beat Russia.

England could still be playing them now and it would still be 1-1.

[Galfon]

Wazza's got no gazza..

[Galfon]

Off to Nice...vs. Por, Ice, Aus ....or Hun.

[bruce]

All that striking talent and your struggling to score. Was Rashford on the pitch at any time?

[bruce]

To be fair Russia's game plan played into Wales's hands.

[WaspInWales]

Oh well, we're through but it hasn't been pretty overall.

52, 70 and 62% possession respectively but only managed to score 3 goals. 65 shots, 15 on target. That's a poor return.

So, Austria, Iceland, Hungary or Portugal. You just know who it'll be!

Either way, I'm not sure we're capable of putting any of those away as we just can't score!

[WaspInWales]

All that striking talent and your struggling to score. Was Rashford on the pitch at any time?

No and Henderson saw out the 90 minutes regardless of making a number of mistakes.

Woy's gambles didn't work...except for Clyne but as the match wore on, his dominance down the right lessened. Vardy worked hard and had a great chance.

Got to start Rooney and Alli.

[bruce]

Oh well, we're through but it hasn't been pretty overall.

52, 70 and 62% possession respectively but only managed to score 3 goals. 65 shots, 15 on target. That's a poor return.

So, Austria, Iceland, Hungary or Portugal. You just know who it'll be!

Either way, I'm not sure we're capable of putting any of those away as we just can't score!

To be fair that is one of the poorest groups, none of which ordinarily would cause you too much trouble. Portugal have worse goal scoring issues the England.

[WaspInWales]

To be fair that is one of the poorest groups, none of which ordinarily would cause you too much trouble. Portugal have worse goal scoring issues the England.

That is true.

However, as we've seen from the last 3 games. Teams are happy to sit back against us and we've struggled to find a way through.

Next round will be the same. Teams playing for a draw, extra time and penalties and perhaps the chance to hit on the counter.

Portugal have been a little unfortunate in some respects. They've played teams playing the same tactics as against us and they've struggled to find the net.

Still, it could be worse!

[WaspInWales]

Any sign of any Russian trouble? Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things.

Quite a few possibly opponents for Wales in the last 16. Some cushty, some rather tricky.

[Numbers]

To be fair that is one of the poorest groups, none of which ordinarily would cause you too much trouble. Portugal have worse goal scoring issues the England.

That is true.

However, as we've seen from the last 3 games. Teams are happy to sit back against us and we've struggled to find a way through.

Next round will be the same. Teams playing for a draw, extra time and penalties and perhaps the chance to hit on the counter.

Portugal have been a little unfortunate in some respects. They've played teams playing the same tactics as against us and they've struggled to find the net.

Still, it could be worse!

Against one of the bigger teams England would have far less possession, it's damning that they have failed to score a decent number of goals with so much possession against inferior opposition.

[mightyreturns]

It was a very poor night against Slovakia, lot's of possession again but another disappointing performance in front of goal. That's summed up England's campaign so far to be honest.

Having said that, we at least qualified and hopefully they can improve from here and have a bit of a run. It's doubtful we'll go much further, but we might scrape a quarter finals place before getting knocked out.

[WaspInWales]

Against one of the bigger teams England would have far less possession, it's damning that they have failed to score a decent number of goals with so much possession against inferior opposition.

Yep. It's the lack of clear-cut chances too.

The Slovakian keeper put in a couple of decent-ish saves yesterday. Vardy was put through early on but the keeper narrowed the angle well then Lallana fired a powerful shot at him. Alli forced a goal line clearance but besides those, it's hard to think of other decent chances. Maybe a better striker, or perhaps more composed finisher than Vardy would've found a way past the keeper and had Lallana angled his shot into the corner of the goal, he would've surely scored. All ifs and buts though.

I didn't watch the Wales game but they showed the goals during the England game. The first goal was lovely. Such a great ball from Allen and superb, composed finish from Ramsey. The second was practically assisted by a Russian and the third was dreadful defence but these chances still have to be taken and finished. So credit to Wales. Looking at the stats which show 12 shots on target, it suggests that perhaps they could've scored more too! Think England managed 5 shots on target against Russia.

I've been miffed by the quality (or lack of) of crossing by England. It has been abysmal.

[WaspInWales]

Will Woy shake it up again? Barkley, Stones and the replacement keepers are the only players to not feature so far. I expect he'll go back to his first choice team, which lets be honest, haven't really fared much better than last night's.

Disappointed with Wilshere, Henderson, Bertrand even Sturridge didn't offer much. These were Woy's calls and they backfired. Considering fitness and game time, I think Sturridge is a great bench option. Bring him on when defences tire in the last 20 minutes and he'll make more of an impact.

I may be bias being an Everton fan but I really think Barkley offers something we're missing. Someone capable of running at defences. It's all well and good plodding around in midfield, keeping hold of the ball but having someone running at players and stretching defences opens up gaps and makes it possible to put better quality balls in the box.

I'd be tempted to go with:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier
Barkley Rooney Alli
Lallana Vardy Rashford

Plenty of pace down the wings, ability to bring it through the middle. Players willing to move themselves and the ball around Lallana and Rashford can swap sides too.

3-0 win. Boom! *drops mic*

It still leaves the option of bringing on Sturridge, Kane and the statistically awesome Milner on if we need.

[twitchy]

To be fair that is one of the poorest groups, none of which ordinarily would cause you too much trouble. Portugal have worse goal scoring issues the England.

That is true.

However, as we've seen from the last 3 games. Teams are happy to sit back against us and we've struggled to find a way through.

Next round will be the same. Teams playing for a draw, extra time and penalties and perhaps the chance to hit on the counter.

Portugal have been a little unfortunate in some respects. They've played teams playing the same tactics as against us and they've struggled to find the net.

Still, it could be worse!

Against one of the bigger teams England would have far less possession, it's damning that they have failed to score a decent number of goals with so much possession against inferior opposition.

England are a quick counter attacking team. It will actually be more interesting to see how they get on against better opposition that will attack them and leave space behind. They will definitely concede goals but I think they will score more as well.

The first three games we have played have been against teams that pretty much have 8 behind the ball and sit there.

Saying that I was still frustrated with roy making so many changes.

[jared_7]

Will Woy shake it up again? Barkley, Stones and the replacement keepers are the only players to not feature so far. I expect he'll go back to his first choice team, which lets be honest, haven't really fared much better than last night's.

Disappointed with Wilshere, Henderson, Bertrand even Sturridge didn't offer much. These were Woy's calls and they backfired. Considering fitness and game time, I think Sturridge is a great bench option. Bring him on when defences tire in the last 20 minutes and he'll make more of an impact.

I may be bias being an Everton fan but I really think Barkley offers something we're missing. Someone capable of running at defences. It's all well and good plodding around in midfield, keeping hold of the ball but having someone running at players and stretching defences opens up gaps and makes it possible to put better quality balls in the box.

I'd be tempted to go with:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier
Barkley Rooney Alli
Lallana Vardy Rashford

Plenty of pace down the wings, ability to bring it through the middle. Players willing to move themselves and the ball around Lallana and Rashford can swap sides too.

3-0 win. Boom! *drops mic*

It still leaves the option of bringing on Sturridge, Kane and the statistically awesome Milner on if we need.

I'm guessing that team would perform much, much better than what we've seen. Although that may because they have 12 players to to the oppositions 11...

[bruce]

Will Woy shake it up again? Barkley, Stones and the replacement keepers are the only players to not feature so far. I expect he'll go back to his first choice team, which lets be honest, haven't really fared much better than last night's.

Disappointed with Wilshere, Henderson, Bertrand even Sturridge didn't offer much. These were Woy's calls and they backfired. Considering fitness and game time, I think Sturridge is a great bench option. Bring him on when defences tire in the last 20 minutes and he'll make more of an impact.

I may be bias being an Everton fan but I really think Barkley offers something we're missing. Someone capable of running at defences. It's all well and good plodding around in midfield, keeping hold of the ball but having someone running at players and stretching defences opens up gaps and makes it possible to put better quality balls in the box.

I'd be tempted to go with:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier
Barkley Rooney Alli
Lallana Vardy Rashford

Plenty of pace down the wings, ability to bring it through the middle. Players willing to move themselves and the ball around Lallana and Rashford can swap sides too.

3-0 win. Boom! *drops mic*

It still leaves the option of bringing on Sturridge, Kane and the statistically awesome Milner on if we need.

I've not seen too much of Vardy before these championships, but haven't been too impressed. Get the impression he is your solid poacher type. I'd have Rashford on in a heartbeat.

[WaspInWales]

I'm guessing that team would perform much, much better than what we've seen. Although that may because they have 12 players to to the oppositions 11...

That's the winning formula.

Good spot.

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier
Barkley Rooney Alli
Vardy Rashford

Allows Lallana to come on with Kane and/or Sturridge if need be.

Probably brings the score down to 2-0.

Boom! *drops mic*

[WaspInWales]

I've not seen too much of Vardy before these championships, but haven't been too impressed. Get the impression he is your solid poacher type. I'd have Rashford on in a heartbeat.

I think Vardy is a quality player. Works hard, has serious pace and is a proven finisher at club level. That doesn't always translate to being a good international though but I think he's worth sticking with.

Rashford is an exciting prospect but how often do we see relatively unknown players set the world alight in their first season only to fall away? I'm not saying that will happen but it's still early days for the lad. That said, something is missing from England's finishing and Rashford's unknown qualities to the opposition may help to fix that.

[twitchy]

If you can top score in the premiership you are easily international level. He needs to be played in a specific way though. Remember this ridiculous goal vs germany a few months back?