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Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:54 pm
by Stom
We got lucky there. Pepper with a poor decision and very nearly got isolated.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:56 pm
by Lizard
Drop goals are for cowards

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:57 pm
by Stom
I think we’ll be happy to be 1 point down here.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:58 pm
by Galfon
Strategic Befuddler's B-plan working well.
Ford is good at this.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:01 pm
by Puja
Shown great strength of mentality to come back after having dominated the first 15 minutes for zilch and then ending up 0-12 down after two quick tries against the run of play. Limited the damage and got into half-time - hopefully a good talking to will get everyone's heads screwed back on and we can execute a bit better in the second half.

Have New Zealand actually conceded a penalty yet? I don't recall one.

Puja

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:02 pm
by Lizard
Neither side taking all their chances. I'll be interested to see how the benches go.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:03 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Puja wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:01 pm Shown great strength of mentality to come back after having dominated the first 15 minutes for zilch and then ending up 0-12 down after two quick tries against the run of play. Limited the damage and got into half-time - hopefully a good talking to will get everyone's heads screwed back on and we can execute a bit better in the second half.

Have New Zealand actually conceded a penalty yet? I don't recall one.

Puja
Not according to the stats that popped up on the feed here. Extremely impressive.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:03 pm
by Lizard
Puja wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:01 pm Shown great strength of mentality to come back after having dominated the first 15 minutes for zilch and then ending up 0-12 down after two quick tries against the run of play. Limited the damage and got into half-time - hopefully a good talking to will get everyone's heads screwed back on and we can execute a bit better in the second half.

Have New Zealand actually conceded a penalty yet? I don't recall one.

Puja
Penalty count is 3 - 0. Pretty rare for this ABs team!

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:07 pm
by Which Tyler
Puja wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:01 pm Have New Zealand actually conceded a penalty yet? I don't recall one.
First DG was on penalty advantage wasn't it?

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:14 pm
by Lizard
TMO has entered the chat.

That is mental.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:14 pm
by Puja
Welp. They've conceded a penalty now! Incredibly harsh yellow.

Puja

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:15 pm
by Stom
I'm actually very happy to see that decision, I think those cynical plays should be punished heavily more often.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:16 pm
by Stom
The man who doesn't provide any attacking play scores...;)

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:16 pm
by Lizard
I wouldn't mind so much if they had pinged the blatant no arms tackle in the first half.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:19 pm
by Lizard
Why the hell would you tap a penalty from there?

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:22 pm
by Puja
Lizard wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:19 pm Why the hell would you tap a penalty from there?
No hooker, so nobody to throw into a lineout.

Puja

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:23 pm
by Puja
Tactically, that was so smart from England. Taking the opportunity to really attack the scrum while NZ were down to 7 forwards.

Puja

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:24 pm
by Lizard
Puja wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:22 pm
Lizard wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:19 pm Why the hell would you tap a penalty from there?
No hooker, so nobody to throw into a lineout.

Puja
1. Go for 3
2. Surely someone could throw at least a short one.
3. Even losing a lineout in England's 22 would have been better than that.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:24 pm
by Lizard
Wheels have come right off the ABs now.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:26 pm
by Lizard
This officiating is a shambles. AR should have picked up that offside immediately.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:27 pm
by Stom
Why the hell is that a pen. I'm sorry, but that's quite incredible of a decision to go back.

Yeah, this officiating team are not having a good game.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:27 pm
by Puja
That would've been a comedy call by Piardi to call that a knock-on, but at least it's back for an offside penalty which is fairer. I think we're owed that after the lucky yellow.

Puja

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:29 pm
by Lizard
Stom wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:27 pm Why the hell is that a pen. I'm sorry, but that's quite incredible of a decision to go back.

Yeah, this officiating team are not having a good game.
Back's moving inside 10m before the lineout is over.

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:30 pm
by Which Tyler
Yeah. Calling the rip a knockout was bull, but just insult to the injury.
Offside at the lineout? I'll take their word for it - if so, then the rip was always irrelevant and not what should have had any replays

Re: England vs New Zealand

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:31 pm
by Stom
Lizard wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:29 pm
Stom wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:27 pm Why the hell is that a pen. I'm sorry, but that's quite incredible of a decision to go back.

Yeah, this officiating team are not having a good game.
Back's moving inside 10m before the lineout is over.
Yeah, but the decision making process is insane. Sorry, poor wording.