Digby wrote:I'm all for people studying at university, merely the act of studying itself I'd warrant a good thing. It's just the attitude surrounding classics I find odd, that it's a subject considered of great import, when really it's more on a par with cruise management.
I say this well aware my own subject of economics is well deserving of scorn. I also say this really only considering there are only a few subjects of worth, namely in the fields of maths, physics and chemistry
not medicine or engineering? :O
I do'nt have a problem with a classics degree - it's a hell of lot better than so many out there; it's the people who do them that are the issue; but I'm sure they'd be just as pretentiously superior regardless of what they'd studied - I think they study classics because they are that way, not the other way around.
Digby wrote:I say this well aware my own subject of economics is well deserving of scorn. I also say this really only considering there are only a few subjects of worth, namely in the fields of maths, physics and chemistry
I agree with ye there, Digby. We need them physicists to manage all the critically stable cases in A&E.
Digby wrote:I'm all for people studying at university, merely the act of studying itself I'd warrant a good thing. It's just the attitude surrounding classics I find odd, that it's a subject considered of great import, when really it's more on a par with cruise management.
I say this well aware my own subject of economics is well deserving of scorn. I also say this really only considering there are only a few subjects of worth, namely in the fields of maths, physics and chemistry
not medicine or engineering? :O
I do'nt have a problem with a classics degree - it's a hell of lot better than so many out there; it's the people who do them that are the issue; but I'm sure they'd be just as pretentiously superior regardless of what they'd studied - I think they study classics because they are that way, not the other way around.
I've more time for some of the medical research than simply medicine, medicine seems more a long fight to retain vast amounts of data than anything else. Engineering I'd have as a practical/applied offshoot of maths so that's a reasonable one
I suspect to no small degree I'm assigning respect to that which I find difficult, my own maths being good enough to perhaps take the 1st year in a maths degree but not years 2 and 3. Whereas whilst I wouldn't want to do many arts courses (or even medicine) I technically could. Though I'd like to think some of it is that most of us will be found on the B ark
Digby wrote:I'm all for people studying at university, merely the act of studying itself I'd warrant a good thing. It's just the attitude surrounding classics I find odd, that it's a subject considered of great import, when really it's more on a par with cruise management.
I say this well aware my own subject of economics is well deserving of scorn. I also say this really only considering there are only a few subjects of worth, namely in the fields of maths, physics and chemistry
not medicine or engineering? :O
I do'nt have a problem with a classics degree - it's a hell of lot better than so many out there; it's the people who do them that are the issue; but I'm sure they'd be just as pretentiously superior regardless of what they'd studied - I think they study classics because they are that way, not the other way around.
I've more time for some of the medical research than simply medicine, medicine seems more a long fight to retain vast amounts of data than anything else. Engineering I'd have as a practical/applied offshoot of maths so that's a reasonable one
I suspect to no small degree I'm assigning respect to that which I find difficult, my own maths being good enough to perhaps take the 1st year in a maths degree but not years 2 and 3. Whereas whilst I wouldn't want to do many arts courses (or even medicine) I technically could. Though I'd like to think some of it is that most of us will be found on the B ark
As a graduate in Electronics Engineering I would argue that Engineering would be more applied Physics than Maths. My oldest son in a Physics graduate and for a long time very dogmatically voiced this opinion, but now that he has commenced a career in Engineering (after taking a Masters to convert him from a thinker to a doer) he is a little more reasonable.
Like the Sarje, I am a convinced lifelong learner with an OU Diploma in German Language and Culture, and I completed 2/3 of one in Geology. I may pick it up again when my body gives out and I give up triathlons (could be any day now).
Which Tyler wrote:
not medicine or engineering? :O
I do'nt have a problem with a classics degree - it's a hell of lot better than so many out there; it's the people who do them that are the issue; but I'm sure they'd be just as pretentiously superior regardless of what they'd studied - I think they study classics because they are that way, not the other way around.
I've more time for some of the medical research than simply medicine, medicine seems more a long fight to retain vast amounts of data than anything else. Engineering I'd have as a practical/applied offshoot of maths so that's a reasonable one
I suspect to no small degree I'm assigning respect to that which I find difficult, my own maths being good enough to perhaps take the 1st year in a maths degree but not years 2 and 3. Whereas whilst I wouldn't want to do many arts courses (or even medicine) I technically could. Though I'd like to think some of it is that most of us will be found on the B ark
As a graduate in Electronics Engineering I would argue that Engineering would be more applied Physics than Maths. My oldest son in a Physics graduate and for a long time very dogmatically voiced this opinion, but now that he has commenced a career in Engineering (after taking a Masters to convert him from a thinker to a doer) he is a little more reasonable.
Like the Sarje, I am a convinced lifelong learner with an OU Diploma in German Language and Culture, and I completed 2/3 of one in Geology. I may pick it up again when my body gives out and I give up triathlons (could be any day now).
I went back and forth on labeling engineering applied maths or physics, and went with maths as physics could itself be labeled applied maths. I do from time to time ponder doing another degree, and then I remember I could just have another beer. My mother however is a near poster child for the OU and is closing on her 7th degree (4 with the OU)
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Now haul on ye ballixes! I wouldn't be half the cunt I am today if I hadn't received 4 years of dedicated tuition in the works of Pliny the Elder and frankly, without studying Catulus I'd be fecked if I ever tried to take a war fleet up against the Carthaginians.
In the spirit of openness, I studied four years of a three year combined honours degree in Zoology and Pharmacology at Nottingham, before finally completing a BA (Hons) in Modern History with the OU. I have currently completed 2/3 of a Masters in Museum Studies with Ulster University. With the exception of 2 years commanding the Army's compulsory drug testing team and the last 6 months as a museum project manager this collective learning effort has net almost no immediately obvious value whatsoever. But I believe that it may have at the very least staved off Alzheimer's for a few months, which means I don't have to resort to the Tumeric-cure and watch my lungs fall out of my arse!
See, I love this. Philosophy, love of learning. FULL STOP
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Now haul on ye ballixes! I wouldn't be half the cunt I am today if I hadn't received 4 years of dedicated tuition in the works of Pliny the Elder and frankly, without studying Catulus I'd be fecked if I ever tried to take a war fleet up against the Carthaginians.
In the spirit of openness, I studied four years of a three year combined honours degree in Zoology and Pharmacology at Nottingham, before finally completing a BA (Hons) in Modern History with the OU. I have currently completed 2/3 of a Masters in Museum Studies with Ulster University. With the exception of 2 years commanding the Army's compulsory drug testing team and the last 6 months as a museum project manager this collective learning effort has net almost no immediately obvious value whatsoever. But I believe that it may have at the very least staved off Alzheimer's for a few months, which means I don't have to resort to the Tumeric-cure and watch my lungs fall out of my arse!
I'm all for people studying at university, merely the act of studying itself I'd warrant a good thing. It's just the attitude surrounding classics I find odd, that it's a subject considered of great import, when really it's more on a par with cruise management.
I say this well aware my own subject of economics is well deserving of scorn. I also say this really only considering there are only a few subjects of worth, namely in the fields of maths, physics and chemistry
Chemistry was my bag. Sadly, I did not enjoy the course overly, but had a three year beer, curry and rugby fest as minor honours.
My lad did a History/Spanish double, with international relations Masters, and he is very much about the life long learning thing , rather than practical application (works in a Social Enterprise helping young disadvantaged kids) and more power to his elbow I say.
Biochem. for me, followed by post-grad & industry beer making kwallies.(ancient history now tho')
My lad got to Uni via college and does something he enjoys, webby type coding for a Lunnun based agency, for international clients...from 'oop Norf.
Chilled.
I preferred Latin at school but wasn't aware it was a musical subject.
Galfon wrote:Biochem. for me, followed by post-grad & industry beer making kwallies.(ancient history now tho')
My lad got to Uni via college and does something he enjoys, webby type coding for a Lunnun based agency, for international clients...from 'oop Norf.
Chilled.
I preferred Latin at school but wasn't aware it was a musical subject.
Yes. Latin was my favourite as well. ex nihilo nihil fit
ETA: as a moderate grammar nazi (though not of Latin), I just have to include this little blog post: http://www.rebootthepast.net/home/2015/ ... e-of-brian
Explaining how centurion Cleese got his grammatical reasoning slightly wrong... probably deliberately
