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Ooft. That's on the nose.Zhivago wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:05 pmPutin didn't even wait 6 months. Just two. To the day.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:33 pm
Putin pretends to let bygones be bygones and things carry on as normal. In 6 months Prigozin has an unforeseen tragic accident.
The way that plane hit the ground, quite literally.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:27 pmOoft. That's on the nose.Zhivago wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:05 pmPutin didn't even wait 6 months. Just two. To the day.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:33 pm
Putin pretends to let bygones be bygones and things carry on as normal. In 6 months Prigozin has an unforeseen tragic accident.
Puja
Pretty chilling shots of that. Had to be a bomb on board, surely? Russians calling it an emergency landing stretches credibility a smidget.
An emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:58 pmPretty chilling shots of that. Had to be a bomb on board, surely? Russians calling it an emergency landing stretches credibility a smidget.
well yes, hence saying the Russians were talking shyteSandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:15 pmAn emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.
Next you’ll be telling me jngf wants Lawes in the row.Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:20 pmwell yes, hence saying the Russians were talking shyteSandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:15 pmAn emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.
Pretty sickening that a whole planeful could be killed to assassinate one man.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:15 pmAn emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.
Couple of years ago Russia shot down a commercial jet killing nearly 400, you think they give a shit about collateral damage?Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:49 pmPretty sickening that a whole planeful could be killed to assassinate one man.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:15 pmAn emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.
Nah, I know they don't give a shit about it, I just thought it was worth raising the point. News coverage was all about one (evil) man dying (probably), not the others, most of whom were probably not deserving of such a fate.Donny osmond wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:08 amCouple of years ago Russia shot down a commercial jet killing nearly 400, you think they give a shit about collateral damage?Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:49 pmPretty sickening that a whole planeful could be killed to assassinate one man.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:15 pm
An emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.
I suspect several of them the world won’t miss at all. But I’m sure some of the crew were just normal human beings who aren’t neo Nazi thugsSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:50 pmNah, I know they don't give a shit about it, I just thought it was worth raising the point. News coverage was all about one (evil) man dying (probably), not the others, most of whom were probably not deserving of such a fate.Donny osmond wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:08 amCouple of years ago Russia shot down a commercial jet killing nearly 400, you think they give a shit about collateral damage?Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:49 pm
Pretty sickening that a whole planeful could be killed to assassinate one man.
On reflection though, Putin's not in our class. George and Tony killed a shit lot more to get Saddam. Like 100,000x more.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:49 pmPretty sickening that a whole planeful could be killed to assassinate one man.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:15 pmAn emergency landing suggests the aircrew trying to land it. That plane just fell out of the sky. Either a bomb or a missile.
Yeah, checked Wikipedia. 3 crew, 7 passengers.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:45 amI suspect several of them the world won’t miss at all. But I’m sure some of the crew were just normal human beings who aren’t neo Nazi thugsSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:50 pmNah, I know they don't give a shit about it, I just thought it was worth raising the point. News coverage was all about one (evil) man dying (probably), not the others, most of whom were probably not deserving of such a fate.Donny osmond wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:08 am
Couple of years ago Russia shot down a commercial jet killing nearly 400, you think they give a shit about collateral damage?
Someone has an excellent sense of humour
I presume they have moved elsewhere.
The number of complaints military training causes is just bonkers. Some locals kick off about anything.
Interesting. As the piece suggests this would not only benefit Ukraine but taking this knowledge back would give our own armies the ability to fight under different (and very modern) conditions. We hope we will never face those conditions ourselves but it's better to be prepared, I think.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:24 am I feel that our resident soldiers will enjoy this article
https://mwi.westpoint.edu/its-time-to-u ... ssistance/
Basically suggesting that the US's approach to training in Ukraine is woefully underserving to really help the Ukrainians, trying to teach them to fight in the American way when the American way depends on having air superiority, among other factors.
It points out that British trainers are very much preferred because they listen to Ukrainian soldiers, take the actual conditions they're fighting under into account, and adjust their training accordingly.
Not the first time that criticism has been made. The Afghan National Army was taught to fight with air and artillery support that if not quite on the same lines as full bore US Army was more than they could provide for themselves. When the US withdrew and that support went, they were a bit screwed (not withstanding lots of issues with corruption etc).Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:24 am I feel that our resident soldiers will enjoy this article
https://mwi.westpoint.edu/its-time-to-u ... ssistance/
Basically suggesting that the US's approach to training in Ukraine is woefully underserving to really help the Ukrainians, trying to teach them to fight in the American way when the American way depends on having air superiority, among other factors.
It points out that British trainers are very much preferred because they listen to Ukrainian soldiers, take the actual conditions they're fighting under into account, and adjust their training accordingly.
There’s a lot of effort being put into analysing this conflict, after all Russia is a potential adversary and China isn’t too dissimilar in its doctrine. The big concern for me is the supply chain. Too many reports of equipment stockpiles running low which is not great if our fairly small military were facing a much larger foe.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:44 pmInteresting. As the piece suggests this would not only benefit Ukraine but taking this knowledge back would give our own armies the ability to fight under different (and very modern) conditions. We hope we will never face those conditions ourselves but it's better to be prepared, I think.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:24 am I feel that our resident soldiers will enjoy this article
https://mwi.westpoint.edu/its-time-to-u ... ssistance/
Basically suggesting that the US's approach to training in Ukraine is woefully underserving to really help the Ukrainians, trying to teach them to fight in the American way when the American way depends on having air superiority, among other factors.
It points out that British trainers are very much preferred because they listen to Ukrainian soldiers, take the actual conditions they're fighting under into account, and adjust their training accordingly.
I do wonder if we have any handheld anti-tank weapons left.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:56 pmThere’s a lot of effort being put into analysing this conflict, after all Russia is a potential adversary and China isn’t too dissimilar in its doctrine. The big concern for me is the supply chain. Too many reports of equipment stockpiles running low which is not great if our fairly small military were facing a much larger foe.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:44 pmInteresting. As the piece suggests this would not only benefit Ukraine but taking this knowledge back would give our own armies the ability to fight under different (and very modern) conditions. We hope we will never face those conditions ourselves but it's better to be prepared, I think.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:24 am I feel that our resident soldiers will enjoy this article
https://mwi.westpoint.edu/its-time-to-u ... ssistance/
Basically suggesting that the US's approach to training in Ukraine is woefully underserving to really help the Ukrainians, trying to teach them to fight in the American way when the American way depends on having air superiority, among other factors.
It points out that British trainers are very much preferred because they listen to Ukrainian soldiers, take the actual conditions they're fighting under into account, and adjust their training accordingly.