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Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:32 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Stones of granite wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Stones of granite wrote:
I just made a similar comment to my son. I bet he's got his agent examining the fine print of the contract looking for a way out.
A boatload of money and living in Edinburgh for 3 years? I'd take it at the cost of a crap-ish job.
Well, if that's all he wants from his Rugby career, then Edinburgh are welcome to him. If I had had anywhere close to his potential at his age, it would not have satisfied me.
I've already stated elsewhere that I think MB has the potential to become one of the best 13s in the world and I view this move as a detrimental to that development. But different people want different things from life and their careers.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:24 pm
by Cameo
Have there been any rumours about who a new coach could be? It's vital they invent some new ideas and belief and someone who'll make it feel like a fresh start next season.
There have been a few inprovements in ambition under Hodge but not much. I suspect if they were convinced by him it would have been done by now anyway
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:00 pm
by Mikey Brown
Should have got in there for Blackadder.
I appreciate that isn't a hugely constructive comment.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:31 pm
by whatisthejava
Cockerill seems to be doing the rounds, but they need a good skills coach.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:11 am
by Adder
Richard Cockerill is Officially the Head coach for next Season. (ER facebook)
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:18 am
by AL.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:50 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
That's an absolutely brilliant appointment. Well done lads.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:01 am
by Adder
The Scotland set up looks really promising for the years to come. Hopefully it will deliver.
We now have:
- two decent coaches ready to take over next year for the professional Clubs.
-Two smaller stadiums for each club.
-2 Clubs are in their respective European 1/4 finals.
-Scotland has not been trashed in a While.
-A decent set up for scouting and developing younger players.
-a multitude of hybrid pitches all around Scotland.
SRU has done a very good job!
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:23 am
by General Zod
It's Cockers' Champions!
Pleased with the appointment. Will be interesting to see if the current coaches really do hang around after the season has finished.
SRU do appear to have done well here. Beating Wales would be another step forward!
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:54 am
by Big D
Adder wrote:The Scotland set up looks really promising for the years to come. Hopefully it will deliver.
We now have:
- two decent coaches ready to take over next year for the professional Clubs.
-Two smaller stadiums for each club.
-2 Clubs are in their respective European 1/4 finals.
-Scotland has not been trashed in a While.
-A decent set up for scouting and developing younger players.
-a multitude of hybrid pitches all around Scotland.
SRU has done a very good job!
I hate to say this, but at least two of those above fall smack into the area that the Fat Bluffer is responsible for.
Re: RE: Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:56 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:Adder wrote:The Scotland set up looks really promising for the years to come. Hopefully it will deliver.
We now have:
- two decent coaches ready to take over next year for the professional Clubs.
-Two smaller stadiums for each club.
-2 Clubs are in their respective European 1/4 finals.
-Scotland has not been trashed in a While.
-A decent set up for scouting and developing younger players.
-a multitude of hybrid pitches all around Scotland.
SRU has done a very good job!
I hate to say this, but at least two of those above fall smack into the area that the Fat Bluffer is responsible for.
I'm fairly innocent on these matters. Where does the hate for him come from?
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Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:58 am
by Big D
So the article quotes:
“The conversations I had with Mark Dodson and Scott Johnson were instrumental in understanding what the vision for Edinburgh Rugby is and it is a project I’m excited to be a part of."
Which suggests the CEO in Petrie is responsible for stuff like sponsors and stadium move etc not appointing head coaches.
“I’d like to thank Duncan Hodge for all his hard work with the club so far and look forward to him continuing to contribute to Edinburgh Rugby.”
"Cockerill will retain Stevie Scott and Pete Wilkins as assistant coaches."
So is Hodge leaving at the end of the season? Who will be backs coach?
What will Scotts remit be? Set piece?
The embra defence has been poor this year. Wilkins might be a bit lucky there.
Re: RE: Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:59 am
by Big D
Adder wrote:Big D wrote:Adder wrote:The Scotland set up looks really promising for the years to come. Hopefully it will deliver.
We now have:
- two decent coaches ready to take over next year for the professional Clubs.
-Two smaller stadiums for each club.
-2 Clubs are in their respective European 1/4 finals.
-Scotland has not been trashed in a While.
-A decent set up for scouting and developing younger players.
-a multitude of hybrid pitches all around Scotland.
SRU has done a very good job!
I hate to say this, but at least two of those above fall smack into the area that the Fat Bluffer is responsible for.
I'm fairly innocent on these matters. Where does the hate for him come from?
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Being a serial wage thief wherever he has been without adding any obvious value. It appears on the surface that as DoR he may actually be doing a good job.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:00 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:So the article quotes:
“The conversations I had with Mark Dodson and Scott Johnson were instrumental in understanding what the vision for Edinburgh Rugby is and it is a project I’m excited to be a part of."
Which suggests the CEO in Petrie is responsible for stuff like sponsors and stadium move etc not appointing head coaches.
“I’d like to thank Duncan Hodge for all his hard work with the club so far and look forward to him continuing to contribute to Edinburgh Rugby.”
"Cockerill will retain Stevie Scott and Pete Wilkins as assistant coaches."
So is Hodge leaving at the end of the season? Who will be backs coach?
What will Scotts remit be? Set piece?
The embra defence has been poor this year. Wilkins might be a bit lucky there.
I'm pretty sure I saw that on the Edinburgh website, he will return to his previous position. They did say that in Rugbyrama as well.
Re: RE: Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:01 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:Adder wrote:Big D wrote:
I hate to say this, but at least two of those above fall smack into the area that the Fat Bluffer is responsible for.
I'm fairly innocent on these matters. Where does the hate for him come from?
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Being a serial wage thief wherever he has been without adding any obvious value. It appears on the surface that as DoR he may actually be doing a good job.
Haha, I thought you were talking about Dodson!!
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:01 am
by Big D
Adder wrote:Big D wrote:So the article quotes:
“The conversations I had with Mark Dodson and Scott Johnson were instrumental in understanding what the vision for Edinburgh Rugby is and it is a project I’m excited to be a part of."
Which suggests the CEO in Petrie is responsible for stuff like sponsors and stadium move etc not appointing head coaches.
“I’d like to thank Duncan Hodge for all his hard work with the club so far and look forward to him continuing to contribute to Edinburgh Rugby.”
"Cockerill will retain Stevie Scott and Pete Wilkins as assistant coaches."
So is Hodge leaving at the end of the season? Who will be backs coach?
What will Scotts remit be? Set piece?
The embra defence has been poor this year. Wilkins might be a bit lucky there.
I'm pretty sure I saw that on the Edinburgh website, he will return to his previous position. They did say that in Rugbyrama as well.
Hmm... not sure that's enough of a coaching change really. The backs haven't shown a huge amount since Hodge arrived.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:04 am
by OptimisticJock
Does it not say at the start of the article he'll be backs coach?
Re: RE: Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:10 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:Adder wrote:Big D wrote:So the article quotes:
“The conversations I had with Mark Dodson and Scott Johnson were instrumental in understanding what the vision for Edinburgh Rugby is and it is a project I’m excited to be a part of."
Which suggests the CEO in Petrie is responsible for stuff like sponsors and stadium move etc not appointing head coaches.
“I’d like to thank Duncan Hodge for all his hard work with the club so far and look forward to him continuing to contribute to Edinburgh Rugby.”
"Cockerill will retain Stevie Scott and Pete Wilkins as assistant coaches."
So is Hodge leaving at the end of the season? Who will be backs coach?
What will Scotts remit be? Set piece?
The embra defence has been poor this year. Wilkins might be a bit lucky there.
I'm pretty sure I saw that on the Edinburgh website, he will return to his previous position. They did say that in Rugbyrama as well.
Hmm... not sure that's enough of a coaching change really. The backs haven't shown a huge amount since Hodge arrived.
Playing behind SHC and Weir isn't easy.
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Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:13 am
by Big D
OptimisticJock wrote:Does it not say at the start of the article he'll be backs coach?
It does apologies. Still trying to engage the brain after a weekend on a stag in Bratislava.
Re: RE: Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:15 am
by Big D
Adder wrote:Big D wrote:Adder wrote:
I'm pretty sure I saw that on the Edinburgh website, he will return to his previous position. They did say that in Rugbyrama as well.
Hmm... not sure that's enough of a coaching change really. The backs haven't shown a huge amount since Hodge arrived.
Playing behind SHC and Weir isn't easy.
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That's true but you'd think Hodge as a former 10 should be able to help Weirs game.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:18 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:Adder wrote:Big D wrote:
Hmm... not sure that's enough of a coaching change really. The backs haven't shown a huge amount since Hodge arrived.
Playing behind SHC and Weir isn't easy.
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That's true but you'd think Hodge as a former 10 should be able to help Weirs game.
He wasn't shinning with Toony either.
What is happening with R. Jackson next season?
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Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:31 am
by sharvey44
Big D wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:Does it not say at the start of the article he'll be backs coach?
It does apologies. Still trying to engage the brain after a weekend on a stag in Bratislava.
I don't think it did originally. It seems to have been updated to add that nugget in.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:00 pm
by OptimisticJock
Big D wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:Does it not say at the start of the article he'll be backs coach?
It does apologies. Still trying to engage the brain after a weekend on a stag in Bratislava.
I think you can be forgiven then.
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:12 pm
by Cameo
I'm not as positive as some on this. He's an upgrade and I'd expect Edinburgh to improve anyway but not that exciting especially with Hodge staying. Might well do a good job, just waiting to be convinced. Good they have it finalised anyway
Re: Hodge's Heroes
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:21 pm
by whatisthejava
Cameo wrote:I'm not as positive as some on this. He's an upgrade and I'd expect Edinburgh to improve anyway but not that exciting especially with Hodge staying. Might well do a good job, just waiting to be convinced. Good they have it finalised anyway
Right now the only thing stopping Edinburgh being bottom is the Italian teams, thats a hell of a drop from HEC 1/2 finalists to bottom
Cockerill may not mak Ed a top 4 team but he could make them a top 6