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Lord Lucan wrote:Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.

Which Tyler wrote:

Lord Lucan wrote:Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.

you needed to look harder then: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39047455.
So err; that makes you a liar, liar, pants on fire... again.
Besides that; it happened AFTER Trump talked about it having happened - which means he was still lying at the time.
You may also notice that there's a difference between (really, really minor*) rioting, and terrorist attacks.


NB, my reply comes 4 minutes after your post, and 4 hours after the BBC article; which is article #2 on European news (behind Brexit) and #4 on World news (Behind US deportation of imigrants; Yiannopoulos quitting Brietbart; and Brexit)


* Really, really minor by the standards of just about any country that isn't Sweden, anyway.

Lord Lucan wrote:Just so we're clear here, do you think Sweden has a problem?

Which Tyler wrote:

Lord Lucan wrote:Just so we're clear here, do you think Sweden has a problem?

I do not think that Utopia exists - though the TV series was great.

I also think that what you and I consider to be "a problem" are very different things.

Lord Lucan wrote:Trump never ceases to amaze me, I knew he was good, but I didn't imagine he could see into the future.
Just two days after the "last night in Sweden" bombshell. hey presto we have riots in Stockholm.
Looked on the BBC website and on their news broadcast, and as I suspected, no mention of it.

jared_7 wrote:http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/21/14682 ... on-economy

Now, though, as we transition into a new and terrifying age, we’re experimenting with an exciting form of macroeconomics: the one man attention economy. To succeed, you only need to grab the attention of one man: Donald Trump.

This isn’t hard, as by most accounts, Trump has the attention span of a toddler. He doesn’t read books. He’s addicted to TV and repeats phrases, word-for-word, that he hears on Fox News. During the presidential debates he preferred not to do prep work, and now, as president, for his intelligence briefings he likes bullet points or “as little as possible.” Trump seems to have no guiding ideology, and this means his opinions — on policy, on people, on pretty much anything — flap back and forth like a flag in the wind. So, if you want to change them, you just have to grab his attention. Even momentarily.

Here are some examples of adaptation to the one man attention economy we’ve seen so far:

• PAC VoteVets bought ad space during MSNBC’s Morning Joe (which the President regularly tweets about) in order to “get in front of his face” and put him “on notice.”

• John Oliver did the same thing, creating ads for morning TV shows in the Washington area in an attempt to educate Trump about the nuclear triad using a catheter-loving cowboy.

• Short-sellers are issuing market reports with lines intended to goad Trump. If he tweets about the companies in question, their stocks will likely fall and the short-sellers will make money.

• Others are cutting out the middle man, and using bots that automatically trade stocks based on a sentiment analysis of the president’s tweets.

• White House insiders have to play the same game, with the NYT reporting that officials have considered “feeding suggested Twitter posts to the president” in order to steer his policy decisions.

Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.

He forgot the RAF Regiment...

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

Lord Lucan wrote:In the first 100 days of his Presidency he said, not 30 days, lets wait and see what happens.
Obama failed miserably at defeating Daesh, so he's not exactly a hard act to follow.

How is it to be done, from a laymans point of view the following actions should help.

1/ Co-operating with Russia.
2/ stop the Chinese from buying oil from Daesh.
3/ Stop the supply of weapons and ammunition, and those brand new 4x4 trucks they parade around in.

Start with this, then let loose the dogs of war,

B-52 carpet bombing.
F-16 bombing raids.
Spectre gunships.
A-10 Warthogs.
Delta Force.
Seal teams.
Rangers.
Green Berets.
Marines.
101st & 82nd airborne.
1st Armored division.

A combination of, or all of the above should do the trick. While they were there they may as well wipe the floor with Hezbollah, be a shame not to really.

He forgot the RAF Regiment...

morepork wrote:While he wanks himself off to the attention, all the energy industry people he has surrounded himself with are pushing legislation in his face and handing him a crayon. He has started eating away at the Clean Water Act so mining and oil companies can dump waste directly in waterways. Nice. I mean, who needs clean water?

Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?

Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?

Digby wrote:If he doesn't like the BBC and CNN why not give them a crap load of access so they get to cover the Trump presidency over and over and over? They might be mean and nasty, but it's his term in the Whitehouse not Hillary's so let them revel in that reality

Digby wrote:If he doesn't like the BBC and CNN why not give them a crap load of access so they get to cover the Trump presidency over and over and over? They might be mean and nasty, but it's his term in the Whitehouse not Hillary's so let them revel in that reality

WaspInWales wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?

Give him a chance, he's only been in the job for a month.

When he wipes out his first million based on racial or religious beliefs, that would be a good time to call them the 4th Reich.

People these days are so impatient.

Lord Lucan wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:So we've had cult of personality based around a deliberately silly haircut.
Book burnings after Rowling said something mean.
Proposals to build camps where they can concentrate undesirables near the Mexican border.
Proliferation of armaments.
Echo-chamber rallies in Florida.
Speculation of sending troops into Mexico "to help them" against their will.
And now censoring of the press.

Can we refer to them as the 4th Reich yet?

Give him a chance, he's only been in the job for a month.

When he wipes out his first million based on racial or religious beliefs, that would be a good time to call them the 4th Reich.

People these days are so impatient.

Oh deary me, Bush and Blair did this when they were in power, and Obama killed his fair share, but in case you hadn't noticed, Trump is not interested in continuing the policy of conflict and regime change.