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Sandydragon wrote:So whilst he spends 1/2 hour here, 1/2 hour there on twitter, who is actually doing the job he was elected to do? Loving the pop at Arnie, how completely sad and pathetic is that?

Twitter is perfect for him to spew his rhetoric. Now that he is controlling who can ask him questions, it means he can pretty say what he wants unchecked and get away with it. Quite a few news channels and papers rip his ramblings to shreds, but whilst he is able to accuse them of being 'fake news', his supporters are happy with that.

This is what happens when an egocentric, megalomaniac gets elected. It's not about policies, it's all about image and deflection.

Love the 'sacred election process' line. This from a man who used the sacred process to insult the disabled, utter some casual racism and threaten to assault someone.

I don't think Uncle Bulgaria understands how things work between executive and judiciary. Love this dig at that point, (poor grammar aside):

"A senior administration official in Washington said colleagues learned of the tweet storm about Obama only after Trump sent them. They were not expecting the President to make any news this morning before golfing in Palm Beach, Florida."

Sandydragon wrote:So whilst he spends 1/2 hour here, 1/2 hour there on twitter, who is actually doing the job he was elected to do? Loving the pop at Arnie, how completely sad and pathetic is that?

Given Arnie pardoned a murderer because it was politically convenient it's not even hard to have a pop, and it was still a swing and a miss.

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:So whilst he spends 1/2 hour here, 1/2 hour there on twitter, who is actually doing the job he was elected to do? Loving the pop at Arnie, how completely sad and pathetic is that?

Given Arnie pardoned a murderer because it was politically convenient it's not even hard to have a pop, and it was still a swing and a miss.

*Insert golfing analogy here*

morepork wrote:

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:So whilst he spends 1/2 hour here, 1/2 hour there on twitter, who is actually doing the job he was elected to do? Loving the pop at Arnie, how completely sad and pathetic is that?

Given Arnie pardoned a murderer because it was politically convenient it's not even hard to have a pop, and it was still a swing and a miss.

*Insert golfing analogy here*

If you'd ever seen Digby play golf - you'd know it WAS a golf analogy

Which Tyler wrote:

morepork wrote:

Digby wrote:
Given Arnie pardoned a murderer because it was politically convenient it's not even hard to have a pop, and it was still a swing and a miss.

*Insert golfing analogy here*

If you'd ever seen Digby play golf - you'd know it WAS a golf analogy

Didn't go round too badly yesterday actually, though it was too cold.

Smoke and mirrors:

Once again, tiny hands makes outlandish claims on Twitter without any evidence to back them up and then he and the WH refuse to go into further detail.

It doesn't matter that the claims have been countered, questioned and criticised by credible sources. The damage is done and it becomes fact to many of his fuckwit supporters.

It just goes to show what a perfect medium Twitter is for him. He can pretty much say what he likes and get away with it.

The ultimate internet troll.

If though as one suspects he's holding out for admiration if not adulation he's going to be a long time in waiting, as yet he hasn't shown he'll rise above the level of a bad joke.

Digby wrote:If though as one suspects he's holding out for admiration if not adulation he's going to be a long time in waiting, as yet he hasn't shown he'll rise above the level of a bad joke.

If feels a bit like a entranceto a Kansas trailer park (at least the ones I've seen in the movies so they must be acccurate), where there is a sign saying how long it's been since the last tornado. In this case, it's how many days since the last fuckup. I bet his staff were really impressed. Off he goes to play golf, they all relax and then realise he still has his mobile and can still tweet.

Sandydragon wrote:

Digby wrote:If though as one suspects he's holding out for admiration if not adulation he's going to be a long time in waiting, as yet he hasn't shown he'll rise above the level of a bad joke.

If feels a bit like a entranceto a Kansas trailer park (at least the ones I've seen in the movies so they must be acccurate), where there is a sign saying how long it's been since the last tornado. In this case, it's how many days since the last fuckup. I bet his staff were really impressed. Off he goes to play golf, they all relax and then realise he still has his mobile and can still tweet.

He's the political equivalent of a fat goalkeeper eating a pie during a match on camera for a rigged bet. At least he's got the physique for it

Fucker has caved in to the Pharm lobby with a push to eliminate requirements for Phase II/III data (efficacy) in the drug approval process. Watch this space for a Goldman Sachs plant to head the FDA. His "new" health care plan simply removes government subsidies for low income patients/customers whilst removing penalties for individuals that opt not to insure. No net difference. Brilliant plan Donald. What a stroke of genius.

morepork wrote:Fucker has caved in to the Pharm lobby with a push to eliminate requirements for Phase II/III data (efficacy) in the drug approval process. Watch this space for a Goldman Sachs plant to head the FDA. His "new" health care plan simply removes government subsidies for low income patients/customers whilst removing penalties for individuals that opt not to insure. No net difference. Brilliant plan Donald. What a stroke of genius.

What exactly does this mean MP?

I understand a little bit about clinical trials. Does this mean that potentially unsafe drugs can pass phase II/III testing as the results will not need to meet previous requirements?

Also, Trump tweeted something about pricing for drugs will come down. Surely the pharm lobby will not want that? They invest (and sometimes lose) millions into their new products, so will want to ensure they see profits from whichever drugs and intellectual property reach the market. Then again, if the regulations are removed that may prevent their new drugs from reaching the market, they're still guaranteed to make money.

Hmmm. What a dodgy fucker.

WaspInWales wrote:

morepork wrote:Fucker has caved in to the Pharm lobby with a push to eliminate requirements for Phase II/III data (efficacy) in the drug approval process. Watch this space for a Goldman Sachs plant to head the FDA. His "new" health care plan simply removes government subsidies for low income patients/customers whilst removing penalties for individuals that opt not to insure. No net difference. Brilliant plan Donald. What a stroke of genius.

What exactly does this mean MP?

I understand a little bit about clinical trials. Does this mean that potentially unsafe drugs can pass phase II/III testing as the results will not need to meet previous requirements?

Also, Trump tweeted something about pricing for drugs will come down. Surely the pharm lobby will not want that? They invest (and sometimes lose) millions into their new products, so will want to ensure they see profits from whichever drugs and intellectual property reach the market. Then again, if the regulations are removed that may prevent their new drugs from reaching the market, they're still guaranteed to make money.

Hmmm. What a dodgy fucker.

Phase I is safety and tolerability. Small groups given a drug to assess possible side effects. Strictly monitored. Any adverse event means back to square one. Phase II is tolerability in larger groups of patients to confirm safety and look for evidence of efficacy. Phase III is even larger groups of patients, and a comparison with currently available drugs to test benefit. Phase IV is serious controled efficacy studies, long term, after drug has been marketed. Deregulating Phase II and III means safety is the real only barrier to marketing.No unsafe drug will get through to market, but the effectiveness of the drug would be less of a requisite milestone on the path to profit.The burden of the cost of development will be reduced, but could theoretically be offset by the cost of care for subjects in after market trials of things that have no real foundation in efficacy and has no real bearing on what is charged for a drug. Insurance companies will cash in on this. Sick people will play health wang in selecting tax breaks for heath costs after signing their right to litigation away. Big pharm is an important resource for R&D only in as much as efficacy is considered a requisite milestone. We'll see, but it seems "leave it to the market" is the master plan.

morepork wrote:Fucker has caved in to the Pharm lobby with a push to eliminate requirements for Phase II/III data (efficacy) in the drug approval process. Watch this space for a Goldman Sachs plant to head the FDA. His "new" health care plan simply removes government subsidies for low income patients/customers whilst removing penalties for individuals that opt not to insure. No net difference. Brilliant plan Donald. What a stroke of genius.

1. WTF? so we'll just be flooded with drugs that don't actually work, but have a good marketting strategy?
2. TBH, that could have been worse; though it does effectively negate the whole point of the ACA; but at least it's still in place theoretically and can still be tinkered with by future regimes (assuming he leaves well alone - and assuming it passes congress).

Sometimes, it's better just to shut up and say nothing.

morepork wrote:Sometimes, it's better just to shut up and say nothing.

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Self awareness appears not to be one of his character traits.

#lockerroombanter

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He really is that fat bloke you get in old fashioned pubs or clubs who thinks he knows everything and lets every one know that very loudly.

morepork wrote:Fucker has caved in to the Pharm lobby with a push to eliminate requirements for Phase II/III data (efficacy) in the drug approval process. Watch this space for a Goldman Sachs plant to head the FDA. His "new" health care plan simply removes government subsidies for low income patients/customers whilst removing penalties for individuals that opt not to insure. No net difference. Brilliant plan Donald. What a stroke of genius.

Woah woah woah - surely you aren't talking about The World's Greatest Healthcare Plan (TM)? (It's actual name, no kidding)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... /1275/text

jared_7 wrote:

morepork wrote:Fucker has caved in to the Pharm lobby with a push to eliminate requirements for Phase II/III data (efficacy) in the drug approval process. Watch this space for a Goldman Sachs plant to head the FDA. His "new" health care plan simply removes government subsidies for low income patients/customers whilst removing penalties for individuals that opt not to insure. No net difference. Brilliant plan Donald. What a stroke of genius.

Woah woah woah - surely you aren't talking about The World's Greatest Healthcare Plan (TM)? (It's actual name, no kidding)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... /1275/text

Sweet baby jesus wanking a nativity donkey......I've seen more comprehensive definitions at the Annual Meeting of Drunk Patent Legal Interns. Removes the employer mandate stating bidnesses employing more than 50 employes must provide insurance to at least 95% of their employees and dependents. Now employers can say, "health insurance benefits? Fuck off". The new super bigly proposal provides wriggle room for state employers to skirt around state requirements too. "(1) IN GENERAL.—With respect to health insurance coverage offered in a State, the State may, in consultation with the Secretary, take such steps, such as limiting the availability of general open enrollment periods, imposing delays in the effectiveness for coverage, permitting differentials in premiums based on age and other factors, as the State determines necessary in order to ensure an orderly market for health insurance coverage in the State that is not offered through an Exchange. Such steps may include the establishment of such initial open enrollment period during which qualified residents may enroll in health insurance coverage without the imposition of any underwriting as the State determines to be appropriate in ensuring initial access to such coverage." Age is the greatest risk factor for disease, so look out for opportunities to fleece an aging workforce. Probably not enough to pay for a border wall or tool up the military, but should guarantee a tidy profit for your mates in the insurance game. Benefits to the general population are not exactly obvious here...


As this bill clearly states, this serves "to eliminate the individual and employer health coverage mandates under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, to expand beyond that Act the choices in obtaining and financing affordable health insurance coverage, and for other purposes." Very comprehensively defined you thundercunt.

morepork wrote:

What...?

Actually I'm totally unsurprised. The US healthcare system is dominated by a profit making industry of gigantic proportions.
It's revolting.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... -insurance

Take today, for example, when the GOP House Speaker did a little presentation on Capitol Hill for reporters in defense of his controversial American Health Care Act, which some have begun calling “Trumpcare.” At one point during the slideshow – complete with Ryan’s sleeves rolled up – the Wisconsin Republican tried to explain what he sees as the Affordable Care Act’s fatal flaw:

“The fatal conceit of Obamacare is that we’re just gonna make everybody buy our health insurance at the federal-government level, young and healthy people are going to go into the market and pay for the older, sicker people. So, the young healthy person is going to be made to buy health care, and they’re going to pay for the person, you know, gets breast cancer in her 40s or who gets heart disease in his 50s. […]

“The whole idea of Obamacare is … the people who are healthy pay for the people who are sick. It’s not working, and that’s why it’s in a death spiral.”

As opposed to any other form of insurance, of course; I mean, only people who crash their cars pay for car insurance; and only those whose homes burn down pay for fire insurance... erm...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pl ... 1ba9d1f7cf

But fear not: If the GOP repeal drive does fail in Congress, Trump has a secret, backup plan to kill the Affordable Care Act. And it’s actually a pretty good plan, if you view it from the point of view of Trump and many Republicans.

In an Oval Office meeting featuring several leaders of conservative groups already lining up against the House Republican plan to repeal and replace Obamacare, President Donald Trump revealed his plan in the event the GOP effort fails: Allow Obamcare to fail and let Democrats take the blame, sources at the gathering told CNN.

Good to see that he's looking out for the little guy.