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Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:46 pm
by QwentyJ
Jps wrote:Oh and you can say what you want about players that get parachuted in from other countries being opportunistic about playing somewhere other than where they were born, but did anyone else see Hugh Blake shedding a tear during the anthem?
And its a shame a player as good as Ruaridh McConnochie, who came up with LS and has two Scottish parents would wind up with England, but there you go. Great to win, even better to beat England
I agree. Utterly bizarre decision to opt for England if you ask me but who know what's behind it?
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:52 pm
by OptimisticJock
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Any way your chaps can learn to start a season the way you finish it?
They did.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:57 pm
by Matt Ha
Fantastic performance. Even beat a New Zealand team that had 8 on the pitch at one point.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:04 pm
by Big D
Great way to send McCrae and Robertson (and Wight off).
Good start and end to the 7s season. Some big shoes to fill next year for a team that will need time to bed in.
Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:06 pm
by Big D
Jps wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Brilliant from the lads. I hate to say it but England have every right to be annoyed at that first try. Blatant knock on but it's great to be on the right side of a bad decision for once.
I don't agree that it was a knock on. Robertson had contol and the ball was ripped off him and that guy dropped it backwards, so that doesn't make it a knock on from him.
That was a brilliant game, but of course my stream crapped out in the last minute of the game.
I agree with that view.
Plus De Carpentier could have tackled him and chose not to. They should be annoyed at him not the ref.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:09 pm
by Big D
7th our best finish? Such a shame they had 5 average tournaments as the middle of a good start and great end.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:10 pm
by Big D
McCrae has done a pretty fine job. Hopefully he can work wonders for the Edinburgh defence.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:22 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Big D wrote:McCrae has done a pretty fine job. Hopefully he can work wonders for the Edinburgh defence.
Would make a lot more sense if he was attack coach... It's a weird appointment.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:26 pm
by ARM
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Big D wrote:McCrae has done a pretty fine job. Hopefully he can work wonders for the Edinburgh defence.
Would make a lot more sense if he was attack coach... It's a weird appointment.
Yeah. Defence is optional in 7s
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:36 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
ARM wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Big D wrote:McCrae has done a pretty fine job. Hopefully he can work wonders for the Edinburgh defence.
Would make a lot more sense if he was attack coach... It's a weird appointment.
Yeah. Defence is optional in 7s
Not even slightly.
OptimisticJock wrote:Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Any way your chaps can learn to start a season the way you finish it?
They did.
I was thinking of the 2 tournaments rather than just the win, but fair point.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:50 pm
by ARM
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:ARM wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Would make a lot more sense if he was attack coach... It's a weird appointment.
Yeah. Defence is optional in 7s
Not even slightly.
OptimisticJock wrote:Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Any way your chaps can learn to start a season the way you finish it?
They did.
I was thinking of the 2 tournaments rather than just the win, but fair point.
Whoosh.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:36 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
I appreciate that 7s is a different code entirely but I would have thought that the lack of 15-a-side collisions would extend a career rather than shorten it. I know 7s is far pacier but Riddell and Wight were never really pacey players & while Robertson has slowed down he's not been shown up for a lack of pace yet. They're 31, 31 and 32 respectively. So why retire now? Or is 7s actually harder on the body?
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:03 am
by Jps
Maybe it doesn't pay that well and they don't wanna tour as much as you have to? Hard to say.
Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:54 am
by Big D
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I appreciate that 7s is a different code entirely but I would have thought that the lack of 15-a-side collisions would extend a career rather than shorten it. I know 7s is far pacier but Riddell and Wight were never really pacey players & while Robertson has slowed down he's not been shown up for a lack of pace yet. They're 31, 31 and 32 respectively. So why retire now? Or is 7s actually harder on the body?
They have to move on in their career eventually I guess.
They have been on the 7s circuit for a while and the constant touring and having to keep a high level of fitness can take it's toll.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:42 am
by hp18
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I appreciate that 7s is a different code entirely but I would have thought that the lack of 15-a-side collisions would extend a career rather than shorten it. I know 7s is far pacier but Riddell and Wight were never really pacey players & while Robertson has slowed down he's not been shown up for a lack of pace yet. They're 31, 31 and 32 respectively. So why retire now? Or is 7s actually harder on the body?
Less heavy collisions but the sheer intensity if the play and having to do it over and over for a weekend is hard to maintain.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:43 am
by hp18
ARM wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Big D wrote:McCrae has done a pretty fine job. Hopefully he can work wonders for the Edinburgh defence.
Would make a lot more sense if he was attack coach... It's a weird appointment.
Yeah. Defence is optional in 7s
Is it fuck
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:44 am
by hp18
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Any way your chaps can learn to start a season the way you finish it?
Have to echo OJ here. Scotland did start well, then had injury problems and lost their way a bit.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:38 am
by Big D
We don't really mention grass root clubs very often on here, but Robertson, Wight and McCrae all from Melrose and all had massive impacts on this Scotland side.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:00 am
by Wylie Coyote
hp18 wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I appreciate that 7s is a different code entirely but I would have thought that the lack of 15-a-side collisions would extend a career rather than shorten it. I know 7s is far pacier but Riddell and Wight were never really pacey players & while Robertson has slowed down he's not been shown up for a lack of pace yet. They're 31, 31 and 32 respectively. So why retire now? Or is 7s actually harder on the body?
Less heavy collisions but the sheer intensity if the play and having to do it over and over for a weekend is hard to maintain.
Also the sheer amount of travelling would take its toll, especially when you have a young family.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:35 am
by hp18
Wylie Coyote wrote:hp18 wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I appreciate that 7s is a different code entirely but I would have thought that the lack of 15-a-side collisions would extend a career rather than shorten it. I know 7s is far pacier but Riddell and Wight were never really pacey players & while Robertson has slowed down he's not been shown up for a lack of pace yet. They're 31, 31 and 32 respectively. So why retire now? Or is 7s actually harder on the body?
Less heavy collisions but the sheer intensity if the play and having to do it over and over for a weekend is hard to maintain.
Also the sheer amount of travelling would take its toll, especially when you have a young family.
Aye.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:23 pm
by Edinburgh in Exile
hp18 wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I appreciate that 7s is a different code entirely but I would have thought that the lack of 15-a-side collisions would extend a career rather than shorten it. I know 7s is far pacier but Riddell and Wight were never really pacey players & while Robertson has slowed down he's not been shown up for a lack of pace yet. They're 31, 31 and 32 respectively. So why retire now? Or is 7s actually harder on the body?
Less heavy collisions but the sheer intensity if the play and having to do it over and over for a weekend is hard to maintain.
Aye, all of what you boys have been saying, that and even if you are no slouch at 31/32, if you lose half a yard in pace, you will get smoked in 7's, you can hide it in 15's. I imagine it takes a huge amount of work to maintain out and out pace past the age of 30.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:26 am
by whatisthejava
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:I imagine it takes a huge amount of work to maintain out and out pace past the age of 30.
I have no idea, and never want to find out
I left out and out pace on the bus and never went to reclaim it
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:05 pm
by whatisthejava
According to Sky sports and Twitter GB teams are under pressure to merge into a single team
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:42 pm
by Big D
They should bin the Olympic team in that case.
Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:36 pm
by General Zod
They should no way do that. Means that one of the few outlets for our players to see what they can really do on a professional and international stage is reduced.