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Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:08 pm
by Stones of granite
morepork wrote:Fucking hipsters...
They should arm fucking hipsters?

Can you imagine? They'd be walking around with guns like these
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Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:13 pm
by morepork
Their noodle tattooed arms would not be able to lift those without trembling.

Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:22 pm
by Stones of granite
morepork wrote:Their noodle tattooed arms would not be able to lift those without trembling.
Something like this?
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Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:59 pm
by Mellsblue
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Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:38 pm
by WaspInWales
Mellsblue wrote:........
Proves mental illness must be contagious.

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:29 am
by Banquo
WaspInWales wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:........
Proves mental illness must be contagious.
It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:06 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:........
Proves mental illness must be contagious.
It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health
It’s both, but one can easily be solved by the legislature whilst the other can’t.

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:15 am
by Digby
Banquo wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:........
Proves mental illness must be contagious.
It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health
On first glance I thought that harsh on Mells, but then I started to think you're probably right

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:23 am
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:
Banquo wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Proves mental illness must be contagious.
It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health
On first glance I thought that harsh on Mells, but then I started to think you're probably right
Replace ‘guns’ with ‘marriage’ and it’s nothing my long suffering wife has repeatedly told her friends.

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:11 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Proves mental illness must be contagious.
It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health
It’s both, but one can easily be solved by the legislature whilst the other can’t.
Definitely one, for sure.

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:32 pm
by Which Tyler
I just heard this, and had to check out the maths for myself.

US gun deaths 2014-Today (so 50 months) = 58,614
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ & http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

Vietnam War US Casualties (so 234 months) = 58,220
Source for Vietman: https://www.archives.gov/research/milit ... statistics

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:21 pm
by morepork
The lack of leadership from this wanker is just stunning. Completely rudderless. I assume he will be in Florida this weekend, to play golf. Fuck me.

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:19 pm
by Digby
morepork wrote:The lack of leadership from this wanker is just stunning. Completely rudderless. I assume he will be in Florida this weekend, to play golf. Fuck me.
On this one issue he isn't in practice any worse than Obama, Bush, Clinton...

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:58 pm
by Sandydragon
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:
Banquo wrote: It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health
On first glance I thought that harsh on Mells, but then I started to think you're probably right
Replace ‘guns’ with ‘marriage’ and it’s nothing my long suffering wife has repeatedly told her friends.
+1.

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:03 pm
by WaspInWales
Digby wrote:
morepork wrote:The lack of leadership from this wanker is just stunning. Completely rudderless. I assume he will be in Florida this weekend, to play golf. Fuck me.
On this one issue he isn't in practice any worse than Obama, Bush, Clinton...
True, but it's one of those issues that even if the Dalai Lama or Gandhi was somehow elected US president, there would be very little they could do to enforce sensible gun controls...even with a majority.

Obama at the very least tried to make it more difficult for some potentially high risk people to purchase a firearm, but the giant orange turd undid that restriction.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:29 am
by morepork
He stopped in on his way to the weekends golf. A few photos and then fucks off. Check out his twitter....there are two pictures of him with hospital staff with an insincere grin and flashing a "thumbs up". He has absolutely no idea what to do. Rather than front up to the families of the victims, he elects to play golf. Fuck.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:24 pm
by Zhivago
morepork wrote:He stopped in on his way to the weekends golf. A few photos and then fucks off. Check out his twitter....there are two pictures of him with hospital staff with an insincere grin and flashing a "thumbs up". He has absolutely no idea what to do. Rather than front up to the families of the victims, he elects to play golf. Fuck.
If he interrupted his busy schedule for every mass shooting he'd never get anything done.

Re: America

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:04 pm
by WaspInWales
morepork wrote:He stopped in on his way to the weekends golf. A few photos and then fucks off. Check out his twitter....there are two pictures of him with hospital staff with an insincere grin and flashing a "thumbs up". He has absolutely no idea what to do. Rather than front up to the families of the victims, he elects to play golf. Fuck.
The photo ops were bizarre to say the least. The smiles on the faces of the doctors and nurses looked strained at best, all except for Trumps. Classic smile and his little thumb raised after people have died or are left seriously injured.

Re: America

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:10 pm
by Sandydragon
WaspInWales wrote:
Digby wrote:
morepork wrote:The lack of leadership from this wanker is just stunning. Completely rudderless. I assume he will be in Florida this weekend, to play golf. Fuck me.
On this one issue he isn't in practice any worse than Obama, Bush, Clinton...
True, but it's one of those issues that even if the Dalai Lama or Gandhi was somehow elected US president, there would be very little they could do to enforce sensible gun controls...even with a majority.

Obama at the very least tried to make it more difficult for some potentially high risk people to purchase a firearm, but the giant orange turd undid that restriction.
Theo only way to deal with the issue is one bit at a time. Even that will require will, a majority and a lot of resilience. Trump doesn't see there being a problem.

Re: America

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:35 pm
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
Digby wrote:
On this one issue he isn't in practice any worse than Obama, Bush, Clinton...
True, but it's one of those issues that even if the Dalai Lama or Gandhi was somehow elected US president, there would be very little they could do to enforce sensible gun controls...even with a majority.

Obama at the very least tried to make it more difficult for some potentially high risk people to purchase a firearm, but the giant orange turd undid that restriction.
Theo only way to deal with the issue is one bit at a time. Even that will require will, a majority and a lot of resilience. Trump doesn't see there being a problem.

Though there does remain gun sales are down under Trump, and whilst Obama saw there was a problem he was either unwilling to spend his political influence on legislating the issue, he just shunted down the line for the next person, along with he was rather powerless on the subject given how (the Republican) congress was behaving

Re: America

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:40 pm
by Sandydragon
Digby wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
True, but it's one of those issues that even if the Dalai Lama or Gandhi was somehow elected US president, there would be very little they could do to enforce sensible gun controls...even with a majority.

Obama at the very least tried to make it more difficult for some potentially high risk people to purchase a firearm, but the giant orange turd undid that restriction.
Theo only way to deal with the issue is one bit at a time. Even that will require will, a majority and a lot of resilience. Trump doesn't see there being a problem.

Though there does remain gun sales are down under Trump, and whilst Obama saw there was a problem he was either unwilling to spend his political influence on legislating the issue, he just shunted down the line for the next person, along with he was rather powerless on the subject given how (the Republican) congress was behaving
Tightening controls on ownership and banning certain accessories would be a start and a limited project like this could be sold given the current climate. The NRA would oppose it vehemently of course, but it wouldn’t prevent gun ownership but it would be a start.

Sadly, there seems no will even for these small steps.

Re: America

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:51 pm
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:
Sadly, there seems no will even for these small steps.
Sometimes they manage to ban a certain type of hand grip. But at best the various leaders just leave it to the next person, and Hillary wasn't out campaigning she was going to do much, though maybe that's better than the seeming attitude of just not giving a shit as we get with Trump

Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:15 am
by WaspInWales
I knew arming the teachers and other staff was the answer.
"If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms," he said, "they could very well end the attack very quickly."
Well done Trump.

What if there was more than one attacker, and they targeted the teachers as well as the kids?
"We'll arm the students too," he replied, "Obama didn't have the balls to do it, but I've got the balls. The biggest and best balls." he continued
One of the above quotes is fake news, but it's not immediately obvious which one.

Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:50 am
by morepork
Fucking cowards. Spineless fucking cowards.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 5384f86f01

Re: America

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:56 am
by WaspInWales
morepork wrote:Fucking cowards. Spineless fucking cowards.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 5384f86f01
Democracy at work.