England vs Argentina

[Mellsblue]

Those England players got 25k a man for that. Embarrassing.

I don’t blame the players*…

*other than Farrell obvs

[Mellsblue]

The ‘on field brains’ ladies and gents.

[Puja]

So, what do we expect the reaction to be? Same pack, drop Smith, keep Youngs, bring in a Porter/Manu midfield, put Steward onto the wing and recall Furbank at 15?

Puja

"No changes, mate. my boys put up a good fight and deserve another shot next week"

I can see that, but I will be astounded if Smith starts next week. Too easy a scapegoat.

Puja

[Mikey Brown]

Jesus this interview is rough.

[Mellsblue]

Jesus this interview is rough.

Rightly so.

[Timbo]

So, what do we expect the reaction to be? Same pack, drop Smith, keep Youngs, bring in a Porter/Manu midfield, put Steward onto the wing and recall Furbank at 15?

Puja

Honestly not sure if I can bring myself to watch tbh. Sure the wife can give me some DIY to be getting on with. Besides a bit of scrum dominance (at times) genuinely nothing you can hang your hat on from that performance.

[Puja]

It's like Eddie thought:

You know what's the best way to break down a defence? Make every ruck last as long as possible to give the defence a chance to get into shape. And then, you know what, let's not bother with pace, so we can't go round the outside. That way the defence can just sit narrow and know we can't go around them. That's the perfect way to win a test match.

It's not as if any of us could have seen that...

Cokanasiga's a big culprit for that. Yes, he can make a few metres barging people over, but he's *so* slow to get to ground and get the ball back. Drains any momentum out of a move by the time he's finally been hauled to ground and allows his team to have the ball back.

Puja

[Puja]

Jesus this interview is rough.

I've stopped watching - who's said what?

Puja

[Banquo]

So, what do we expect the reaction to be? Same pack, drop Smith, keep Youngs, bring in a Porter/Manu midfield, put Steward onto the wing and recall Furbank at 15?

Puja

Honestly not sure if I can bring myself to watch tbh. Sure the wife can give me some DIY to be getting on with. Besides a bit of scrum dominance (at times) genuinely nothing you can hang your hat on from that performance.

Coles did ok in the loose, mostly. Coka was up for it. JVP was decent bar one option.

[Mellsblue]

Jesus this interview is rough.

I've stopped watching - who's said what?

Puja

My favourite moment was when Farrell was banging on about difficult conditions meant neither team were able to keep the ball in hand and the interviewer pointed out that Arg managed it well enough when scoring two tries.

[Banquo]

It's like Eddie thought:

You know what's the best way to break down a defence? Make every ruck last as long as possible to give the defence a chance to get into shape. And then, you know what, let's not bother with pace, so we can't go round the outside. That way the defence can just sit narrow and know we can't go around them. That's the perfect way to win a test match.

It's not as if any of us could have seen that...

Cokanasiga's a big culprit for that. Yes, he can make a few metres barging people over, but he's *so* slow to get to ground and get the ball back. Drains any momentum out of a move by the time he's finally been hauled to ground and allows his team to have the ball back.

Puja

I did quite like his aggression tho.

The striking feature was how stupid a lot of what we did was. We aren't bright.


BTW Argentina are a decent side- normally at home tho

[Margin_Walker]

Cokanasiga did okay, but he mostly just carried a few blokes over the gainline (including a couple over the tryline tbf). Don't remember him actually beating a player in any of his carries.

He was better than Nowell, but not sure it was a stand out performance.

[Mellsblue]

Boffelli, old chap, don’t worry you’ll make more sense than Farrell.

[Mellsblue]

Is this Cheka’s first test victory over Jones?

[switchskier]

Jesus this interview is rough.

Rightly so.

Good for Sonja. She gets a lot of stick but those were perfectly valid questions. Farrell uninspiring in the extreme and retreating into cliche as ever.

[Banquo]

Those England players got 25k a man for that. Embarrassing.

I don’t blame the players*…

*other than Farrell obvs

oh I do-a lot of brain dead play sans ball. But poorly selected and prepared- black marks all round.

Youngs has to go, and Smith doesnt seem at all comfy.

[Banquo]

Cokanasiga did okay, but he mostly just carried a few blokes over the gainline (including a couple over the tryline tbf). Don't remember him actually beating a player in any of his carries.

He was better than Nowell, but not sure it was a stand out performance.

thats a low bar- and I only said I liked his aggression, as he has been passive sometimes.

[Timbo]

It's like Eddie thought:

You know what's the best way to break down a defence? Make every ruck last as long as possible to give the defence a chance to get into shape. And then, you know what, let's not bother with pace, so we can't go round the outside. That way the defence can just sit narrow and know we can't go around them. That's the perfect way to win a test match.

It's not as if any of us could have seen that...

Cokanasiga's a big culprit for that. Yes, he can make a few metres barging people over, but he's *so* slow to get to ground and get the ball back. Drains any momentum out of a move by the time he's finally been hauled to ground and allows his team to have the ball back.

Puja

Not really his fault that. Ball was so slow to get out to him he was usually running in to their backrow.

[p/d]

Both wings were poor. Neither should be starting. I just wish that was our only problem.

Argentina were less than good and had to do little to leave with a win. I am truly at a loss to what Jones and his coaching ferrets are actually paid for.

[Banquo]

It's like Eddie thought:

You know what's the best way to break down a defence? Make every ruck last as long as possible to give the defence a chance to get into shape. And then, you know what, let's not bother with pace, so we can't go round the outside. That way the defence can just sit narrow and know we can't go around them. That's the perfect way to win a test match.

It's not as if any of us could have seen that...

Cokanasiga's a big culprit for that. Yes, he can make a few metres barging people over, but he's *so* slow to get to ground and get the ball back. Drains any momentum out of a move by the time he's finally been hauled to ground and allows his team to have the ball back.

Puja

Not really his fault that. Ball was so slow to get out to him he was usually running in to their backrow.

and our support was slow, so staying on his feet made sense sometimes.

[Mellsblue]

Both wings were poor. Neither should be starting. I just wish that was our only problem.

Argentina were less than good and had to do little to leave with a win. I am truly at a loss to what Jones and his coaching ferrets are actually paid for.

Thoughts on Arg’s tracksuits?

[Oakboy]

From initial selection, through preparation, game plan, discipline, general on-field nous and competiveness was anything good? What is worse, have we any right, based on the last three years, to expect it to be?

[Banquo]

Both wings were poor. Neither should be starting. I just wish that was our only problem.

Argentina were less than good and had to do little to leave with a win. I am truly at a loss to what Jones and his coaching ferrets are actually paid for.

being well harsh on coka, made a hundred yards and scored a try, no missed tackles. He was ok.

[p/d]

Both wings were poor. Neither should be starting. I just wish that was our only problem.

Argentina were less than good and had to do little to leave with a win. I am truly at a loss to what Jones and his coaching ferrets are actually paid for.

Thoughts on Arg’s tracksuits?

Smitten

Thought Kings headwear was pure art

[Mellsblue]

I don’t blame the players*…

*other than Farrell obvs

Smith doesnt seem at all comfy.
[/quote]

Fair enough re blaming players, I just think they’re not being set up to succeed.

and who would’ve seen the Smith situation coming….