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Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:59 pm

I saw that. Still more accurate than Benny.
He's been less accurate than Benny since he came on. Passing accuracy has been awful. Upped the tempo nicely which Sale really needed but passed to the head more than to the hands and then at the end there the floor more than to hands.
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FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:59 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:59 pm quirke 's right hand must be fckd. passing one handed.
I saw that. Still more accurate than Benny.
He's been less accurate than Benny since he came on. Passing accuracy has been awful. Upped the tempo nicely which Sale really needed but passed to the head more than to the hands and then at the end there the floor more than to hands.
hand fckd may explain it, no?
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FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm faz motm despite a sh5t second half. quelle surprise.
Should have been Malins.
Should’ve been T. Cuzza, imo
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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:03 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:59 pm

I saw that. Still more accurate than Benny.
He's been less accurate than Benny since he came on. Passing accuracy has been awful. Upped the tempo nicely which Sale really needed but passed to the head more than to the hands and then at the end there the floor more than to hands.
hand fckd may explain it, no?
The ones to the floor at the end most definitely. The head high passes started when he came on though.
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FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm faz motm despite a sh5t second half. quelle surprise.
Should have been Malins.
as said earlier. best Ive seen from him.
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FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:04 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:03 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm

He's been less accurate than Benny since he came on. Passing accuracy has been awful. Upped the tempo nicely which Sale really needed but passed to the head more than to the hands and then at the end there the floor more than to hands.
hand fckd may explain it, no?
The ones to the floor at the end most definitely. The head high passes started when he came on though.
may have done it early ;)
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Shame for Sale but just too error prone and didn’t get convincingly on top when they had the chances.

I’d love to see a super cut of Rodd’s impacts on the game.
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Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:03 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm faz motm despite a sh5t second half. quelle surprise.
Should have been Malins.
Should’ve been T. Cuzza, imo
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Mikey Brown wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:05 pm Shame for Sale but just too error prone and didn’t get convincingly on top when they had the chances.

I’d love to see a super cut of Rodd’s impacts on the game.
whole game was a mass of mistakes.
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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:03 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm

Should have been Malins.
Should’ve been T. Cuzza, imo
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FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:02 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm

He's been less accurate than Benny since he came on. Passing accuracy has been awful. Upped the tempo nicely which Sale really needed but passed to the head more than to the hands and then at the end there the floor more than to hands.
Thanks for biting.
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Saracens deserved winners. Apart from a good spell when they took the lead, i never felt Sale were really on top. Saracens rode that out and came back to close the game out very efficiently helped by too many dull errors.
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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:05 pm
FKAS wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:04 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:03 pm

hand fckd may explain it, no?
The ones to the floor at the end most definitely. The head high passes started when he came on though.
may have done it early ;)
:lol: maybe, I'm pretty sure they could have got him to go into a tackle and then hold his head after if that was the case. Get Warr back on and no risk serious, long lasting damage by playing Quirke for an extended period with an injury.
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Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:08 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:03 pm

Should’ve been T. Cuzza, imo
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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:21 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:08 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:06 pm

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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:01 pm faz motm despite a sh5t second half. quelle surprise.
Faz showing yet again that he's a decent to good club FH, but nothing special, in a game of highs and lows. I thought he threw some nicely timed passes but is, as always, chronically short of speed. His physical shape has gradually morphed into that of a non athletic middle aged bloke complete with a significant pair of love handles.
Ford showed a few nice touches but could orchestrate little against a very tough Sarries defence.
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I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
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Mikey Brown wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:05 pm I’d love to see a super cut of Rodd’s impacts on the game.
Ridiculous to sublime and back again. Worst moment was where Sale had that last desperate attack with 5 minutes to go and the chance was still there, only for Rodd to attempt to repeat that sweeping pick and go on the run, that made his try for him, but ended up in fumbling spectacularly and gifting the turnover that let Dan kick a 50 metre 50:22.

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Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:33 pm I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
Agree with all of that. You rugby savant you.
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Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:33 pm I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
it was an embodiment of english rugby. Effort over skill, tactics and execution.

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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:45 pm
Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:33 pm I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
it was an embodiment of english rugby. Effort over skill, tactics and execution.

bmp
Bloody minded performance?
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Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:51 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:45 pm
Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:33 pm I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
it was an embodiment of english rugby. Effort over skill, tactics and execution.

bmp
Bloody minded performance?
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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:45 pm
Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:33 pm I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
it was an embodiment of english rugby. Effort over skill, tactics and execution.

bmp
Yes, there were various factors that confirm your statement.

Tuilagi made ground every time he got the ball and foraged forward with it - all of three times? Add in the defensive alignment errors and assess whether his overall effect on the game was better than a skilful contribution from James would have been.

Then, why have Ford at FH and ask your SH to sky the ball every time he touched it.

And, of all the FBs in world rugby, why would your FH try spiral bombs against Goode?
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Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:54 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:51 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:45 pm

it was an embodiment of english rugby. Effort over skill, tactics and execution.

bmp
Bloody minded performance?
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Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:59 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:45 pm
Oakboy wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:33 pm I suppose MoM has to go to the winning side. Curry was mine.

That was an exciting cut and thrust game but, overall, it was not a great advert for the quality of English rugby. Maybe, I'm prejudiced because I simply don't like that much kicking, especially from the SHs.
it was an embodiment of english rugby. Effort over skill, tactics and execution.

bmp
Yes, there were various factors that confirm your statement.

Tuilagi made ground every time he got the ball and foraged forward with it - all of three times? Add in the defensive alignment errors and assess whether his overall effect on the game was better than a skilful contribution from James would have been.

Then, why have Ford at FH and ask your SH to sky the ball every time he touched it.

And, of all the FBs in world rugby, why would your FH try spiral bombs against Goode?
I think the kicking game was hampered by how easily Sarries managed to block off the Sale chasers or how easily the Sale chasers fell off tackles. Tough day at the office for the young back three. Sarries are very good at covering the backfield, I suspect Sale were hoping to draw Sarries into a kicking contest but instead it was just easier for Sarries to beat the chase and get momentum rather than kick back under pressure. When Sarries did have to box kick they tended to pick out Reed who was hapless under the high ball.
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