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Sandydragon wrote:

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Stom wrote:
This is politics. If you incessantly criticize the government on everything, you will be ignored on the big things. When there are motivating factors, like there are with PPE, hold off. Then with the Sage redactions, you can launch both barrels.

Pick and choose

Is that for us, or for the press?

I can see your point but I can't agree. What would the criteria be for not reporting a story where there has been a government failing? In the case of PPE, lives are potentially at risk, and with the Sage redactions the government may be covering up an area where they diverged from being "guided by the science". Both seem like serious enough issues that they ought to be reported (assuming the stories have merit).

It would be helpful if the media actually reported accurately and weren’t trying to make everything into a crisis. There have been cockups along the way, but the media reporting of this crisis has been largely infantile.

fivepointer wrote: I dunno, but wouldn't it have been an idea for the UK Govt to work with the devolved Govts to achieve some unity in messaging?

Which Tyler wrote:Stay alert? It's a deadly virus not a pedestrian fucking crossing.

Galfon wrote:

fivepointer wrote: I dunno, but wouldn't it have been an idea for the UK Govt to work with the devolved Govts to achieve some unity in messaging?

It appears petty to argue about slogans and there can only be 1 captain on the ship; hopefully it shows BoJo needs to engage more with the regions to keep the same message going, rather than some wasteful political point-scoring.

Which Tyler wrote:Stay alert? It's a deadly virus not a pedestrian fucking crossing.

Banquo wrote:
Police were called to an address in Wemsley Grove, Tonge Moor, shortly before 8pm yesterday, where they found a birthday party with around 40 people in attendance, including both adults and children.

“Officers encouraged the group to disperse and were met with hostility as guests refused to co-operate,” a Greater Manchester Police statement said.

“Officers continued to encourage the group to disperse, and as people started to leave, a group of people continued to refuse to co-operate with the officers and began to deliberately cough and spit.”

Seven people – aged between 23 and 48 – were arrested on suspicion of being drunk and disorderly and for breach of Covid-19 regulations and received fixed penalties. A further individual was not arrested but was given a fixed penalty at the scene.

We will not escape from this misery until the Government has been forced to admit that it made a foolish mistake and over-reacted wildly to Covid-19.

The Prime Minister is like a man who sets fire to his own pyjamas, while he is wearing them, to cure himself of hiccups.

Now he stands naked and scorched, as his house burns around him, and exults that his hiccups have indeed gone away. This is what I mean by getting things out of proportion.

People are seen celebrating VE Day from their doorsteps amid the coronavirus pandemic. Huge, devastating actions, such as the national shutdown, require clear, good justifications. These do not so far exist +5
People are seen celebrating VE Day from their doorsteps amid the coronavirus pandemic. Huge, devastating actions, such as the national shutdown, require clear, good justifications. These do not so far exist

Above all, he must stop pretending that his actions saved us from deaths that never happened, and people must stop believing this evidence-free bilge.

Till that moment comes, months and perhaps years of costly, painful stupidity will follow. The belief that the Panic Policy worked means it can never fully end. If, and when, you go back to your job – if you still have a job – you will be compelled to abide by ludicrous, impractical rules. You will be forced to wear pointless muzzles on trains and buses.

Normal life will be virtually impossible. Previously simple actions will be endlessly complicated and expensive. And while this farce continues, businesses will continue to close and jobs continue to vanish, visiting misery and sickness on millions.

I have seen this before in the old Communist world, a mad, fixed idea pursued by dense men relentlessly and without opposition or thought, until the whole thing collapses or explodes. Now I see it here.

A near-deserted beach is pictured above in Eastbourne during the Bank Holiday weekend. We will not escape from this misery until the Government has been forced to admit that it made a foolish mistake and over-reacted wildly to Covid-19 +5
A near-deserted beach is pictured above in Eastbourne during the Bank Holiday weekend. We will not escape from this misery until the Government has been forced to admit that it made a foolish mistake and over-reacted wildly to Covid-19

Huge, devastating actions, such as the national shutdown, require clear, good justifications. These do not so far exist.

I have yet to see any reason to believe that throttling the economy and imposing mass house arrest have saved a single life. Deaths from Covid-19 peaked and began to decline in this country on April 8, a decline far too soon to have been brought about by the Johnson Panic of March 23.

I have seen masses of reasons to believe that the risk from the coronavirus has been gravely exaggerated and that the figures of deaths have been overestimated.

As for the damage done by the wild, almost Maoist measures adopted by the Government, evidence pours in hourly from ruined businesses and people who thought they were secure, discovering the multiple miseries of Universal Credit.

And this is only just beginning. The two specific competent actions which might have helped – protecting care homes from the outset, and properly equipping doctors and nurses – were bungled.

But the vast, sweeping, showy policies of mass house arrest and the unprecedented switching off of an entire advanced 21st Century economy were, and are, pursued with relentless enthusiasm.

The Prime Minister is like a man who sets fire to his own pyjamas, while he is wearing them, to cure himself of hiccups. Now he stands naked and scorched, as his house burns around him, and exults that his hiccups have indeed gone away +5
The Prime Minister is like a man who sets fire to his own pyjamas, while he is wearing them, to cure himself of hiccups. Now he stands naked and scorched, as his house burns around him, and exults that his hiccups have indeed gone away

Even now the teenage minds in charge of this cannot admit their mistake or properly call a halt, as we shall learn tonight. But under the rule of this Cabinet of None of the Talents, the country has suffered a total collapse of independent thought and opposition.

The buffoon who got us into this, and now cannot get us out, continues to be lauded and fawned upon as if he were Kim Jong Un. Those who six months ago could not forget his long history of amateurishness, dishonesty and clowning now cannot remember them, and praise him instead.

I used to think he was, at least, amusing. But I see nothing amusing in the landscape of ruin he has now created. Once people begin to realise what he has done, and how needless it was, I doubt that he will ever be forgiven.

Even when Professor Neil Ferguson, chief advocate of the Panic Laws, was caught ignoring his own rules, nothing changed. The nation giggled and missed the point. I actually care more about what goes on above Prof Ferguson’s neck than what takes place below his belt.

The significance of his action was that even he doesn’t believe his scare stories enough to obey the rules based on them. Well, I don’t believe those scare stories either and never have.

But thanks to him and his raving prophecies, I now live in a country where the police – the police! – seriously consider prosecuting a free man for canoodling with his married mistress.

This is not because of the multiple betrayals of spouses and children involved. Nobody but me cares about those any more, as I am perhaps the last living puritan, and even I don’t think it’s a police matter. It is because he broke the ludicrous ‘social distancing’ rules.

We are living in a mad country, governed by clowns. Who will save us from this, or must it just go on for ever?

Even when Professor Neil Ferguson, chief advocate of the Panic Laws, was caught ignoring his own rules, nothing changed. The nation giggled and missed the point +5
Even when Professor Neil Ferguson, chief advocate of the Panic Laws, was caught ignoring his own rules, nothing changed. The nation giggled and missed the point

Succession of needless obscenities
Seeking some sort of escape from endless discussion of the virus, I have been watching the TV drama Succession, above, about a wobbling media empire, whose ailing and ancient chieftain, still fearsome, is besieged by would-be successors among his children.

I can’t imagine who this is based on, but can it be really true that these people use the f-word quite so much?

I’m reminded of the story of the soldier who used that word incessantly as greeting, punctuation and adverb, until the day when he dropped a heavy machine gun on his foot and couldn’t think what to say.

A toxic cloud of deceit

More news about the Poison Gas watchdog, the OPCW.

Some months ago I exposed major turmoil inside this valuable organisation, over what some of its senior inspectors regarded as censorship of reports from Syria, in an attempt to alter their meaning and significance.

The OPCW responded by saying that one of these whistleblowers had not been a member of the Fact Finding Mission (FFM) which went to Syria in 2018.

Various toadies and creeps repeated this. Now a radical website, The Grayzone, has published documents which appear to show that he was officially listed as a member of the FFM. I put this to the OPCW on Thursday. So far they have not responded.


I am delighted to say that my call for a court case against the House Arrest policy has now been answered.

The businessman Simon Dolan has begun steps to challenge the legality of the Panic Laws. The Government is dragging its feet but next week will be crucial.

I have posted details of the action, and how to support it, on the Peter Hitchens blog.

Citizens are said to have claimed he was frightening people +5
Citizens are said to have claimed he was frightening people

Scary face of hypocrisy...

Police in Norwich have spoken severely to a teenager for going round the suburbs in a 17th Century plague doctor’s mask, like a huge crow’s head, and a long black cloak.

Citizens are said to have claimed he was frightening people.

I am thinking of getting one of these outfits if forced to wear a muzzle by the Government, so I was interested to see that our new state militia think it’s a matter for them.

Is it the law that only the Government are allowed to frighten people?

And is the thing they all fear most of all that we might laugh at them?

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Mikey Brown wrote:Anyone actually done the maths on this?

Sandydragon wrote:And here's Peter Hitchens opinion from the Sunday Hate (this popped into my LinkedIn feed this morning and I couldn't resist a look)

paddy no 11 wrote:This just looks reckless from Johnson, could be looking at shocking daily deaths in 4-6 weeks

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:Anyone actually done the maths on this?

He's saying R = 0.6, infections = 219183, so alert level = 0.6 + 219183 = 219183.6

ie the equation is bollocks