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Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:57 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
whatisthejava wrote:According to Sky sports and Twitter GB teams are under pressure to merge into a single team
from who?

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:39 pm
by ARM
hp18 wrote:
ARM wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Would make a lot more sense if he was attack coach... It's a weird appointment.
Yeah. Defence is optional in 7s
Is it fuck
FFS.

You can have a whoosh too.

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:12 pm
by Big D
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:According to Sky sports and Twitter GB teams are under pressure to merge into a single team
from who?
Aw cunt else apparently. Other teams raging that there are effectively 3 sides from GB that can stop other teams gaining quali points etc.

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:26 am
by hp18
Big D wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:According to Sky sports and Twitter GB teams are under pressure to merge into a single team
from who?
Aw cunt else apparently. Other teams raging that there are effectively 3 sides from GB that can stop other teams gaining quali points etc.
And they can all go fuck themselves.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:25 am
by Lizard
Big D wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:According to Sky sports and Twitter GB teams are under pressure to merge into a single team
from who?
Aw cunt else apparently. Other teams raging that there are effectively 3 sides from GB that can stop other teams gaining quali points etc.
Sauce?

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:24 am
by Big D
Lizard wrote:
Big D wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
from who?
Aw cunt else apparently. Other teams raging that there are effectively 3 sides from GB that can stop other teams gaining quali points etc.
Sauce?
To be fair i was being dramatic. It is only briefly mentioned here http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... ky-sources

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:54 am
by Stones of granite
Big D wrote:
Lizard wrote:
Big D wrote: Aw cunt else apparently. Other teams raging that there are effectively 3 sides from GB that can stop other teams gaining quali points etc.
Sauce?
To be fair i was being dramatic. It is only briefly mentioned here http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... ky-sources
Seems there might be more to it than that.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/153 ... ay_merger/

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:48 am
by whatisthejava
I really dont think it will happen, it may suit World Rugby 7's but the SRU forced to by the public and their member clubs will just tell them to stick their olympics up their bum, cant see the RFU wanting to do this either

It also becomes clear that the SFA stance to not join a GB team has been right all along,

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:01 am
by Cameo
whatisthejava wrote:I really dont think it will happen, it may suit World Rugby 7's but the SRU forced to by the public and their member clubs will just tell them to stick their olympics up their bum, cant see the RFU wanting to do this either

It also becomes clear that the SFA stance to not join a GB team has been right all along,
While being ridiculed for it too. Not worth it for the chance to have a couple involved in the Olympics every four years

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:49 pm
by hp18
Stones of granite wrote:
Big D wrote:
Seems there might be more to it than that.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/153 ... ay_merger/
That just says the exact same as the sky article, which is bollocks itself on the qualification front. Only one pre selected team can qualify, it's not who finishes higheat.

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:50 pm
by Stones of granite
hp18 wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
Big D wrote:
Seems there might be more to it than that.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/153 ... ay_merger/
That just says the exact same as the sky article, which is bollocks itself on the qualification front. Only one pre selected team can qualify, it's not who finishes higheat.
I didn't read the Sky article. It must be coming from somewhere, unless the Herald just ripped off the Sky article (entirely possible).

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:28 pm
by Cameo
Stones of granite wrote:
hp18 wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
That just says the exact same as the sky article, which is bollocks itself on the qualification front. Only one pre selected team can qualify, it's not who finishes higheat.
I didn't read the Sky article. It must be coming from somewhere, unless the Herald just ripped off the Sky article (entirely possible).
Yeah, the sky article seems pretty confident (and oblivious to the controversy it would cause) so it worries me. Hard to believe the SRU would agree to it. Personally, if it just became a GB team I wouldn't want us contributing any funding to it although they could take our fringe players if they pay them

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:35 pm
by hp18
Cameo wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
hp18 wrote: That just says the exact same as the sky article, which is bollocks itself on the qualification front. Only one pre selected team can qualify, it's not who finishes higheat.
I didn't read the Sky article. It must be coming from somewhere, unless the Herald just ripped off the Sky article (entirely possible).
Yeah, the sky article seems pretty confident (and oblivious to the controversy it would cause) so it worries me. Hard to believe the SRU would agree to it. Personally, if it just became a GB team I wouldn't want us contributing any funding to it although they could take our fringe players if they pay them
It would be suicidal for the SRU.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:09 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
I think the story is nonsense. Amalgamation wouldn't be in the interests of world rugby or anyone other than teams just outside the 7 series core participants. The supposed justification for the move shows a failure to understand the qualification procedure.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:19 pm
by Stones of granite
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:I think the story is nonsense. Amalgamation wouldn't be in the interests of world rugby or anyone other than teams just outside the 7 series core participants. The supposed justification for the move shows a failure to understand the qualification procedure.
Without wishing to appear to be disagreeing, I'm curious as to why you think it wouldn't be in the interests of World Rugby.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:18 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Stones of granite wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:I think the story is nonsense. Amalgamation wouldn't be in the interests of world rugby or anyone other than teams just outside the 7 series core participants. The supposed justification for the move shows a failure to understand the qualification procedure.
Without wishing to appear to be disagreeing, I'm curious as to why you think it wouldn't be in the interests of World Rugby.
Because they have a product to sell that requires as many strong teams as possible. They have a rugby public that won't identify particularly strongly with Team GB outside Olympics as well.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:34 pm
by Stones of granite
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:I think the story is nonsense. Amalgamation wouldn't be in the interests of world rugby or anyone other than teams just outside the 7 series core participants. The supposed justification for the move shows a failure to understand the qualification procedure.
Without wishing to appear to be disagreeing, I'm curious as to why you think it wouldn't be in the interests of World Rugby.
Because they have a product to sell that requires as many strong teams as possible. They have a rugby public that won't identify particularly strongly with Team GB outside Olympics as well.
I'm afraid that I don't find that very convincing. The English Rugby Public dwarf Scotland and Wales' many times over, and most English people use England and GB as interchangeable terms anyway. I simply don't believe there would be a measurable effect on attendance at the London round even if every Scot and Welshman stayed away.

World Rugby ave already made it clear that they are happy to disrupt the home nations to favour emerging nations, and it would be no ssurprise to me if they were tp very marginally reduce the overall quality of the competition in order to be seen to be "spreading things out a bit".

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:50 am
by Big D
Allegedly they want to reduce the comp to 12 teams so they won't be spreading it out.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:35 pm
by hp18
Big D wrote:Allegedly they want to reduce the comp to 12 teams so they won't be spreading it out.
That would likely kill the series and growth of the game.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:40 pm
by Cameo
hp18 wrote:
Big D wrote:Allegedly they want to reduce the comp to 12 teams so they won't be spreading it out.
That would likely kill the series and growth of the game.
Wouldn't go that far but would leave you with an annoying format and less scope for the developing countries. So, on second thoughts maybe I would go that far

Re: RE: Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:42 pm
by Big D
hp18 wrote:
Big D wrote:Allegedly they want to reduce the comp to 12 teams so they won't be spreading it out.
That would likely kill the series and growth of the game.
Oh I agree totally.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 6:10 pm
by General Zod
There's plenty room for expansion. It's a cracking tournament/ spectacle which could go to more venues around the world, as well as gradually add more teams.

No team GB.

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 7:58 am
by Cameo
Seems to be getting a wee bit of attention now http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4456225

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:19 am
by laribold
Love this caption to a picture at the end of that article about the u20s!

"After a mere 112 years, Scotland are finally on a roll against New Zealand"
:D

Re: Sevens 2016-17 march to glory and general re-start efficiency

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:12 am
by General Zod
Scott Hastings getting in on it now.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4458579

If this went through it would be so much of a significant and material change that we would need a new referendum... :?