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Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:00 pm
by Timbo
Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:30 pm
by skidger
Puja wrote:
Numbers wrote:
Puja wrote:
Did you seriously just quote Guscott to support your point?

Puja
I suppose you know better than Guscott?

What would you base your obvious superior ability to read the game on or are you just trotting out an opinion formed by the EMB illuminati?
I'm not claiming that I necessarily know better, for it is well known that I am a fool. I'm asking whether you have read anything written by Guscott in the past, or worse, met the tw*t in person.

Great rugby player. Appalling human being. A below average pundit. I'm just astounded that he's being referenced by a Welshman as a fount of truth; he's pretty much the epitome of English-stereotype that you love to hate!

Puja
I did not realise we were now discussing James Haskell.

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:50 am
by Banquo
Timbo wrote:Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.
aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:47 am
by Digby
Banquo wrote:
Timbo wrote:Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.
aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.
In the Times a few weeks back Shane Williams was making the case that JD is the sort of centre who could play 10 such was the quality of JD's handling, so there's that to ponder on as it has the hallmarks of being a cogent piece of analysis by Shane!

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:17 am
by Banquo
Digby wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Timbo wrote:Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.
aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.
In the Times a few weeks back Shane Williams was making the case that JD is the sort of centre who could play 10 such was the quality of JD's handling, so there's that to ponder on as it has the hallmarks of being a cogent piece of analysis by Shane!
cripes, that's weird.

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:46 pm
by Mikey Brown
Shane Williams has got to be one of the worst pundits I've ever read/heard. I think Nichol and Guscott are actually closer to the mark. He manages to punctuate his bland, meaningless platitudes with a very specific kind of nonsense.

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:38 pm
by Digby
Banquo wrote:
Digby wrote:
Banquo wrote: aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.
In the Times a few weeks back Shane Williams was making the case that JD is the sort of centre who could play 10 such was the quality of JD's handling, so there's that to ponder on as it has the hallmarks of being a cogent piece of analysis by Shane!
cripes, that's weird.
It was a brief piece, I think a short column selecting a XV which that day looked at 13s, where for instance Big Gav argues without bias for a Scottish selection, Shane argues without bias for a Welsh selection, and maybe it's what they honestly think, maybe they don't even write it and simply give permission for their name to be used for suitable payment. But of all the comments it's one that stands out, also I nearly fell down some steps going into an office building reading that comment

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:48 pm
by Timbo
I was sat down reading it and I still nearly fell over.

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:44 pm
by Buggaluggs
JD dropped his Lions jacket when it was presented to him

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:45 pm
by Digby
Timbo wrote:I was sat down reading it and I still nearly fell over.
Reasonably so. Maybe we're missing the point, but it would seem there are lots of things to praise about his game before claiming his handling provides an assured touch

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:56 pm
by Banquo
Digby wrote:
Timbo wrote:I was sat down reading it and I still nearly fell over.
Reasonably so. Maybe we're missing the point, but it would seem there are lots of things to praise about his game before claiming his handling provides an assured touch
indeedy

Re: v Crusaders

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:40 pm
by kk67
Buggaluggs wrote:JD dropped his Lions jacket when it was presented to him
Red velvet blazers was a contentious choice. It looks like a pub curtain.