RugbyRebels

WaspInWales wrote:I knew arming the teachers and other staff was the answer.

"If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms," he said, "they could very well end the attack very quickly."

Well done Trump.

What if there was more than one attacker, and they targeted the teachers as well as the kids?

"We'll arm the students too," he replied, "Obama didn't have the balls to do it, but I've got the balls. The biggest and best balls." he continued

One of the above quotes is fake news, but it's not immediately obvious which one.

Which Tyler wrote:Is he actually aware that 20% of teachers... are still fucking teachers!

Which Tyler wrote:Is he actually aware that 20% of teachers... are still fucking teachers!

morepork wrote:The nonsense coming out of this fat cunts mouth. A horribly unsubtle attempt to play all sides, peppered with senseless hyperbole ("tremendous progress...great things...the best people") and seasoned with sound bytes that parrot the NRA. What the fuck is wrong with these people???

WaspInWales wrote:He has 45 embroidered on to his cuffs ffs!

Do Presidents usually do that?

WaspInWales wrote:

morepork wrote:The nonsense coming out of this fat cunts mouth. A horribly unsubtle attempt to play all sides, peppered with senseless hyperbole ("tremendous progress...great things...the best people") and seasoned with sound bytes that parrot the NRA. What the fuck is wrong with these people???

Trump's a busted flush MP.

Most people can see that. I say most, but alarmingly, he seemingly still has some support among the masses.

The sound bytes are generic and can be interchanged at will. This week, there is nothing more important than children, but change children for coal, tax savings, jobs, border security, name of state, or country (if relating to foreign affairs only), being a teacher and just about any other issue and there we have Trump's latest sound byte.

Most people know that Trump is being played by those around him. Trump doesn't. He really thinks he is there on merit and deserves to be there. Every time he opens his mouth or has a Twitter tantrum, it becomes a little more obvious that he isn't calling the shots. I mean, who the fuck needs a cue card when speaking to kids after the horror of being caught up in a mass shooting where their friends have died, and then Tweet that the NRA are good people? Who?

This is how things are going backfire.

Trump has no empathy, or real connection with the things he touts. He thinks he does, but he is just repeating the shit he is told. He always has. If he had more intelligence, and was able to accept his place in proceedings, his administration would have more chance of succeeding. More intelligence to 'play' the press, not need cue cards and being able to spell, he'd be right up there on public opinion, but it's plainly obvious that the man is too thick, or just totally deluded of his own ability to deal with people/anything.

The midterms could be a real eye-opener for him, but again, he lacks the intelligence to deal with the potential set-back. If it goes to shit for the GOP, he'll be blaming the fake news...but by then, those who are calling the shots will probably want nothing more to do with the fat cunt.

I honestly believe the man is a simpleton, and you never go full retard, but he has gone above and beyond.


The other possibility is Mueller coming up 'trumps' on Trump. I still can't see that happening though. Fringe players are being indicted and possibly striking deals, but unless Mueller has a look at Trump/Kushner finances, I can't see the big boys being particularly bothered.

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:
Has he thought this through?

He said video footage showed Mr Peterson arriving at the building where the shooting was taking place about 90 seconds after the first shots were fired and that he remained outside for about four minutes. The attack lasted six minutes, Sheriff Israel said.

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:I wonder if anybody has bothered to consider what the outcome will be when one of these armed teachers wakes up one morning and thinks their life will be fixed if they go to work and shoot a few kids?

There are around 3.2 million professional school teachers in the US. If 20% of them are armed then that means 640,000 of them are taking a gun to school every day.

The incidence of PTSD in the general population of the US is estimated at between 7-8%, which can be extrapolated to suggest that somewhere between 44,800 and 51,200 people would be walking into American schools every morning armed with a weapon and some form of mental disorder.

But wait! If the intent is to concentrate the carriage of guns into a 20% of "gun-adept teachers with military or special training experience," then the incidence of PTSD in the military population must be taken into consideration. According to peer-reviewed research (Psychological Services Vol9, No4, 361-382 (2012)) the prevalence of PTSD among former Servicemen and women who have served in recent conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan is between 14-16%. This would suggest that between 89,600 and 102,400 people would be walking into school in the US every morning armed with a weapon, a mental disorder and military training!

Has he thought this through?

Which Tyler wrote:

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:I wonder if anybody has bothered to consider what the outcome will be when one of these armed teachers wakes up one morning and thinks their life will be fixed if they go to work and shoot a few kids?

There are around 3.2 million professional school teachers in the US. If 20% of them are armed then that means 640,000 of them are taking a gun to school every day.

The incidence of PTSD in the general population of the US is estimated at between 7-8%, which can be extrapolated to suggest that somewhere between 44,800 and 51,200 people would be walking into American schools every morning armed with a weapon and some form of mental disorder.

But wait! If the intent is to concentrate the carriage of guns into a 20% of "gun-adept teachers with military or special training experience," then the incidence of PTSD in the military population must be taken into consideration. According to peer-reviewed research (Psychological Services Vol9, No4, 361-382 (2012)) the prevalence of PTSD among former Servicemen and women who have served in recent conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan is between 14-16%. This would suggest that between 89,600 and 102,400 people would be walking into school in the US every morning armed with a weapon, a mental disorder and military training!

Has he thought this through?

Very, very good post; not "like" worthy - as there's very little to actually like in this.
I'm gonna nick your stats though

Which Tyler wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43164634
So... there was a trained, armed officer at the school - who arrived at the building, hung around for a bit, and wandered off again

He said video footage showed Mr Peterson arriving at the building where the shooting was taking place about 90 seconds after the first shots were fired and that he remained outside for about four minutes. The attack lasted six minutes, Sheriff Israel said.

I do'nt particularly like hanging the officer up to dry like that without hearing his story, but it's still pretty damning.

Nevermind though, I'm also sure that random Geography teacher #3 would have been so much better.

What a world we are living when the answer to the question "How we we stop guns being fired in schools?" is "Let's put more guns in schools."
Takes a real fucking genious (or more likely, sociopath) to come up with that one!

Sandydragon wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:Is he actually aware that 20% of teachers... are still fucking teachers!

Special forces teachers?

To be fair I had a teacher who could hit you clean in th head with a blackboard duster from across the class room. Crack shot she was, could probably stop a gun man in his tracks wth a box file.