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Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:51 am
by Raggs
I'd not have been against 2 reds, Hill deserved a yellow earlier for the slap to the face.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:52 am
by Oakboy
If we don't win this by a big margin now it will be a disgrace even if it won't be that honourable.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:52 am
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote:And.. it's been spotted.

Yellow for idiocy

Reaction always be harsher punishment, but shouldn't be that harsh IMO
not sure how can let a deliberate head to head go much as i sympatihise

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:52 am
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote:
Raggs wrote:Give them both yellows. Hills lucky not to have one by himself.
both reds if going that route- cant allow head butts
Agreed.
Not sure I'd call it a headbut, but as soon as an official says that, then it can only be a red.

Will also say that I missed most of the replays as wife needed me for work

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:53 am
by Raggs
Which Tyler wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Raggs wrote:Give them both yellows. Hills lucky not to have one by himself.
both reds if going that route- cant allow head butts
Agreed.
Not sure I'd call it a headbut, but as soon as an official says that, then it can only be a red.
He butted his head into Hills head... what else can you call it?

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:54 am
by Oakboy
Itoje swapped sides. Interesting in terms of debate a few days ago.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:55 am
by Banquo
Raggs wrote:I'd not have been against 2 reds, Hill deserved a yellow earlier for the slap to the face.
aye but you cant have deliberate head to heads not redded when accidental ones are.
poor pass and option from faz

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:55 am
by Mellsblue
Safe to say Farrell chose the wrong option there.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:55 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:Itoje swapped sides. Interesting in terms of debate a few days ago.
only lock we had so obvous swap

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:56 am
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Itoje swapped sides. Interesting in terms of debate a few days ago.
only lock we had so obvous swap
Lawes not a lock?

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:57 am
by Raggs
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Itoje swapped sides. Interesting in terms of debate a few days ago.
only lock we had so obvous swap
He means Itoje moved from loosehead lock to tighthead, like I said, I've never seen Lawes play tighthead lock.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:58 am
by Raggs
That's harsh on Curry in my mind. The Aussie was in squeezeball position basically lying on the ball, Curry doesn't have to be on the ball in that situation, the fact he got the ball anyway should just be proof he was good at first.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:59 am
by Stom
Raggs wrote:That's harsh on Curry in my mind. The Aussie was in squeezeball position basically lying on the ball, Curry doesn't have to be on the ball in that situation, the fact he got the ball anyway should just be proof he was good at first.
He was lying on the floor. It was idiotic.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:59 am
by Which Tyler
Raggs wrote:He butted his head into Hills head... what else can you call it?
As said, I call it "something I didn't see"

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:59 am
by Banquo
we looked ok for a while.
Hill is a nob.
given the disruptons to oz and the red should win comfortably ya' d think

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:00 pm
by Raggs
Stom wrote:
Raggs wrote:That's harsh on Curry in my mind. The Aussie was in squeezeball position basically lying on the ball, Curry doesn't have to be on the ball in that situation, the fact he got the ball anyway should just be proof he was good at first.
He was lying on the floor. It was idiotic.
He believed he'd already fairly won the ball, not an unreasonable belief in my mind, especially without the ref giving any warning/info etc.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:01 pm
by Banquo
Raggs wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Itoje swapped sides. Interesting in terms of debate a few days ago.
only lock we had so obvous swap
He means Itoje moved from loosehead lock to tighthead, like I said, I've never seen Lawes play tighthead lock.
i understood that part- forgot lawes was on tbf- andItoje has more of a tighthead lock build

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:01 pm
by Scrumhead
@Banquo agreed. The big pause from the injury to Banks took all the energy out of the game. Until that point England were clearly on top and playing pretty well. Second quarter was scrappy and crap from both sides.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:02 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Itoje swapped sides. Interesting in terms of debate a few days ago.
only lock we had so obvous swap
Lawes not a lock?
id missed lawes tbf, but see above re itoje

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:02 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:we looked ok for a while.
Hill is a nob.
given the disruptons to oz and the red should win comfortably ya' d think
Yep. Great first 20mins but error strewn ever since.
As you say, with the red and second choice 3, 10 & 15 you’d hope for a strong second half.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:03 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote: only lock we had so obvous swap
Lawes not a lock?
id missed lawes tbf, but see above re itoje
Lawes isn’t a lock anymore. Especially at scrum time given the weight he’s lost.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:05 pm
by Mikey Brown
Raggs wrote:Someone needs to get Hill off the pitch, he's completely lost his head with that Aussie lock with the hair. He's slapped in the face, now grabbed his hair/ear and yanked his head back in the maul.
Ah. Missed the build up to that. Only saw the headbutt which looked incredibly dumb, but does sound like Hill was asking for it.

I guess job done. Cynical as it is.

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:06 pm
by Banquo
hartley has it right, doing well at the tackle line just need to do summat withit

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:06 pm
by Banquo
Mikey Brown wrote:
Raggs wrote:Someone needs to get Hill off the pitch, he's completely lost his head with that Aussie lock with the hair. He's slapped in the face, now grabbed his hair/ear and yanked his head back in the maul.
Ah. Missed the build up to that. Only saw the headbutt which looked incredibly dumb, but does sound like Hill was asking for it.

I guess job done. Cynical as it is.
fraid so

Re: Australia vs England - First Test

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:08 pm
by Raggs
Still liking the look of our attack to be honest, it's flowing well, even with the errors, they're adjusting to the system/players errors in my mind, the system itself seems very effective.