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Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:39 pm
by Mellsblue
francoisfou wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:36 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:25 pm
So, who’s impressed? Marchant and Steward?
Ben Youngs was faultless.
If only his delivery on the pitch was as good as his halftime cameo with the microphone.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:40 pm
by Mr Mwenda
The netball is going better at least...
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:40 pm
by jngf
Rightly or wrongly, Sinckler, Hill, T Willis, Dan,Van Portfleit underwhelmed for me compared to the starters they subbed for..
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:41 pm
by FKAS
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:36 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:26 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:22 pm
Martin at tighthead with Hill on the left. I guess it says something that seems interesting.
14 carries for 14 metres and with 14 tackles for Martin.
Are you suggesting he replaces Malins?

could it be worse?
We turned the ball over 23 times during that game. Be finished the game with more possession and territory. Just pathetically bad error count that killed us.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:44 pm
by Spiffy
So that's toodle pip to Porter, Cockanasiga, Malins, Care, Dombrandt, Blamire - Just for starters. Never mind that the squad does not have one decent scrum half out of three.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:44 pm
by FKAS
jngf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:40 pm
Rightly or wrongly, Sinckler, Hill,
T Willis, Dan,Van Portfleit underwhelmed compared to the starters they subbed for..
Dombrant missed 3 of his 9 tackles and made 14 metres from 5 carries whilst we were dominant. Wasn't great. T Willis didn't make much of an impact but it's all a bit meh at 8 really.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
by Mellsblue
Dombo is the wrong no8 for this team and coach. I think he’d look class playing in the, eg, France team but he isn’t. T Willy is the obvs Billy understudy, imo.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:48 pm
by jngf
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:44 pm
jngf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:40 pm
Rightly or wrongly, Sinckler, Hill,
T Willis, Dan,Van Portfleit underwhelmed compared to the starters they subbed for..
Dombrant missed 3 of his 9 tackles and made 14 metres from 5 carries whilst we were dominant. Wasn't great. T Willis didn't make much of an impact but it's all a bit meh at 8 really.
Fair enough re T Willis - I might be being a bit premature in my judgement, but he looks to be more of a workmanlike,grafting player rather than a particularly exciting one.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:49 pm
by fivepointer
Didnt catch the opening half an hour but was unlucky enough to see the rest.
I mean fair enough its a warm up game with a scratch side, but jeez that was lamentably bad. We did nothing - not a sodding thing - of note while i was watching. We did lots that was rubbish but anything constructive, positive, eye catchingly good - nope.
One can only hope that the only way is up. tell me i'm right???
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:58 pm
by Mellsblue
fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:49 pm
Didnt catch the opening half an hour but was unlucky enough to see the rest.
I mean fair enough its a warm up game with a scratch side, but jeez that was lamentably bad. We did nothing - not a sodding thing - of note while i was watching. We did lots that was rubbish but anything constructive, positive, eye catchingly good - nope.
One can only hope that the only way is up. tell me i'm right???
You’re left.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 pm
by Danno
Fiji battered Japan 35-12 earlier. We'll lose all four warm ups at this rate.
Odds of Slick Bookcase surviving post WC can't be good.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:10 pm
by Mellsblue
Not bad for a midget.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:13 pm
by FKAS
Danno wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 pm
Fiji battered Japan 35-12 earlier. We'll lose all four warm ups at this rate.
Odds of Slick Bookcase surviving post WC can't be good.
Didn't Japan have a player sent off after about 10 mins?
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:16 pm
by FKAS
fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:49 pm
Didnt catch the opening half an hour but was unlucky enough to see the rest.
You were the jinx then.
We dominated the first half. Made a ridiculous number of handling errors to shoot ourselves in the foot at key times. Then didn't turn up for the second half.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:18 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
Dombo is the wrong no8 for this team and coach. I think he’d look class playing in the, eg, France team but he isn’t. T Willy is the obvs Billy understudy, imo.
He wouldn't get close to making the French squad. His one line break came from a pass he over ran and luckily the ref missed. That accounted for most of his metres made. He'll be lucky to make the squad.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 pm
by Danno
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:13 pm
Danno wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 pm
Fiji battered Japan 35-12 earlier. We'll lose all four warm ups at this rate.
Odds of Slick Bookcase surviving post WC can't be good.
Didn't Japan have a player sent off after about 10 mins?
Scotland did alright despite that.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:35 pm
by jngf
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:18 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
Dombo is the wrong no8 for this team and coach. I think he’d look class playing in the, eg, France team but he isn’t. T Willy is the obvs Billy understudy, imo.
He wouldn't get close to making the French squad. His one line break came from a pass he over ran and luckily the ref missed. That accounted for most of his metres made. He'll be lucky to make the squad.
I think it’s a moot point at the moment what style of No.8 Skull Boater has in mind and on a spectrum ranging from S Simmonds to Billy I still think he may go for the flair as opposed to tight, wrecking ball approach but we’ll all see come Monday

Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:36 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Looks like I picked the right day to be at the airport and miss the game
Sounds like a truly fabulous shitshow of boredom and error.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:41 pm
by Oakboy
Did anybody surprise us? I don't understand what SB got from the selection. SH, both wings, both centres, both locks, two of the back row all confirmed they weren't up to it but why waste international practice to confirm what he must already have known?
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:42 pm
by FKAS
Danno wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:13 pm
Danno wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 pm
Fiji battered Japan 35-12 earlier. We'll lose all four warm ups at this rate.
Odds of Slick Bookcase surviving post WC can't be good.
Didn't Japan have a player sent off after about 10 mins?
Scotland did alright despite that.
A full strength Scot side Vs France B and the red card happened well into the second half with Scotland having all the momentum. Was still very impressive from Scotland.
I didn't see the Japan game but I've seen it mentioned elsewhere it was a rotated side that suffered an early red card and so not to read to much into the result. We'll see how accurate that turns out to be. Fiji have always had bags of attacking talent.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:57 pm
by loudnconfident
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:16 pm
fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:49 pm
Didnt catch the opening half an hour but was unlucky enough to see the rest.
You were the jinx then.
We dominated the first half. Made a ridiculous number of handling errors to shoot ourselves in the foot at key times. Then didn't turn up for the second half.
We threw away two attacking lineouts in the first half (when we were on top IMO). One bsd overthrow, the second an absurd attempt to get an early wedge (?) which was correctly pinged by the ref.
It was extraordinarily inept.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:02 pm
by Mellsblue
FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:18 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
Dombo is the wrong no8 for this team and coach. I think he’d look class playing in the, eg, France team but he isn’t. T Willy is the obvs Billy understudy, imo.
He wouldn't get close to making the French squad. His one line break came from a pass he over ran and luckily the ref missed. That accounted for most of his metres made. He'll be lucky to make the squad.
Did I say that he’d make the France squad? I just said he’d look a lot better in a good team who play more on the front foot and with a more expansive game plan.
Glad we agree he’s unlikely to make the squad.
There’s more to a player than metres made.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:17 pm
by pompey-zebra
fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:49 pm
D
I mean fair enough its a warm up game with a scratch side,
Whereas Wales put their first xv out.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:30 pm
by jngf
On a positive note Martin and Ribbans looked a good lock unit.
Re: Wales vs England - Saturday 5.30pm
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:51 pm
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:36 pm
Looks like I picked the right day to be at the airport and miss the game
Sounds like a truly fabulous shitshow of boredom and error.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up glue sniffing