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Jocky wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:26 pm Should never have come to that. We were too negative.

Jocky wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:26 pm Should never have come to that. We were too negative.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:38 pm IMO, the ball was grounded.
IMO, those phases were started by Finn Russell playing scrum half on the French side of a ruck.

IMO, let's not forget the DVDM high tackle, and the DVDM offside intercept - both of which stopped a try.

IMO these things even themselves out, though rarely quite so quickly

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:53 pm Also Harry Paterson should be getting some serious plaudits.

Rowe too has played above what I thought he’d offer. I thought I was going to be sick when he made that run at the end. Gutted for him that he didn’t keep hold of it.

BaldiePete wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:08 pm Can I refer you to the first post in this thread.

sharvey44 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:04 pm

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:53 pm Also Harry Paterson should be getting some serious plaudits.

Rowe too has played above what I thought he’d offer. I thought I was going to be sick when he made that run at the end. Gutted for him that he didn’t keep hold of it.

Definitely agree with this. Paterson did very well today. Rowe has done very well too. And the bench props have held up well.

We can argue various ref decisions until we are blue in the face but at the end of the day that spell where we played negatively was a key point we should have made more of it. We didn’t make more of the yellow card period and a couple of wonky line outs didn’t help either. The scrum before half time we should’ve got the ball away quicker.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:38 pm IMO, the ball was grounded.
IMO, those phases were started by Finn Russell playing scrum half on the French side of a ruck.

IMO, let's not forget the DVDM high tackle, and the DVDM offside intercept - both of which stopped a try.

IMO these things even themselves out, though rarely quite so quickly

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:58 pm

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:38 pm IMO, the ball was grounded.
IMO, those phases were started by Finn Russell playing scrum half on the French side of a ruck.

IMO, let's not forget the DVDM high tackle, and the DVDM offside intercept - both of which stopped a try.

IMO these things even themselves out, though rarely quite so quickly

Would need to check but Finn did look offside in real time.

Tackles on the shoulder that aren't seat belt tackles will be argued as the law is "above the line of the shoulders".

He wasn't offside as there was no offside line created as there was no ruck IIRC

Cameo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:56 pm Absolutely gutted.

With a competent ref at the end, we would be discussing a win and feeling like we were nit picking about other things we could have done better. I have loads of sympathy for refs as the game is so quick and complex, but I don't see how a TMO can see what we all saw and say there is no clear evidence that the ball was grounded. It's not like the screenshots we have all seen came later, they just show exactly what we were all looking at at the time.

As for the game:

- Thought Darge made a difference and Finn was great as usual. His kicking from hand really is great.

- I thought it was probably the right call not to go for 3 before half time. Try there makes a huge difference whereas 3 points may not. If I remember right, if we had gone for the three initially, we wouldnt even have got the yellow card. Risky once the clock goes red though as one mistake and it's half time. Got to execute better either way.

- Can't decide on the slightly negative second half tactics. We were comfortable but it wasn't like we were all over them so I can see a logic to letting the game drift, albeit it is dull. Their try was their only real threat. If it hadnt happened, could have just felt like quite a clinical performance keeping them at arms' length.

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:24 pm The transcript of tmo conversation is on twittersphere

They agree its a try and then .....lose sight of the angle.

Clusterfuck

stevedog1980 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:44 pm

Cameo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:56 pm Absolutely gutted.

With a competent ref at the end, we would be discussing a win and feeling like we were nit picking about other things we could have done better. I have loads of sympathy for refs as the game is so quick and complex, but I don't see how a TMO can see what we all saw and say there is no clear evidence that the ball was grounded. It's not like the screenshots we have all seen came later, they just show exactly what we were all looking at at the time.

As for the game:

- Thought Darge made a difference and Finn was great as usual. His kicking from hand really is great.

- I thought it was probably the right call not to go for 3 before half time. Try there makes a huge difference whereas 3 points may not. If I remember right, if we had gone for the three initially, we wouldnt even have got the yellow card. Risky once the clock goes red though as one mistake and it's half time. Got to execute better either way.

- Can't decide on the slightly negative second half tactics. We were comfortable but it wasn't like we were all over them so I can see a logic to letting the game drift, albeit it is dull. Their try was their only real threat. If it hadnt happened, could have just felt like quite a clinical performance keeping them at arms' length.

I wouldn’t have taken the 3 either, but with 90 seconds to half time I think the quick tap and try to ratchet the pressure for a second yellow before half time

stevedog1980 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:44 pm

Cameo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:56 pm Absolutely gutted.

With a competent ref at the end, we would be discussing a win and feeling like we were nit picking about other things we could have done better. I have loads of sympathy for refs as the game is so quick and complex, but I don't see how a TMO can see what we all saw and say there is no clear evidence that the ball was grounded. It's not like the screenshots we have all seen came later, they just show exactly what we were all looking at at the time.

As for the game:

- Thought Darge made a difference and Finn was great as usual. His kicking from hand really is great.

- I thought it was probably the right call not to go for 3 before half time. Try there makes a huge difference whereas 3 points may not. If I remember right, if we had gone for the three initially, we wouldnt even have got the yellow card. Risky once the clock goes red though as one mistake and it's half time. Got to execute better either way.

- Can't decide on the slightly negative second half tactics. We were comfortable but it wasn't like we were all over them so I can see a logic to letting the game drift, albeit it is dull. Their try was their only real threat. If it hadnt happened, could have just felt like quite a clinical performance keeping them at arms' length.

I wouldn’t have taken the 3 either, but with 90 seconds to half time I think the quick tap and try to ratchet the pressure for a second yellow before half time