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Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:08 pm
by Stom
Mellsblue wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:07 pm Great line from Underhill.
Bailing JvP out for some pretty ropey play from the base. He’s so slow.

Both newcomers have been crap so far.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:09 pm
by Mellsblue
Restarts are a complete mess.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:09 pm
by Danno
We need a defence

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:09 pm
by Insouciant
JVP needs to speed up, good play from Smith etc to clean the situation up.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:10 pm
by Danno
Any fucking defence.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:10 pm
by FKAS
So ref isn't bothering with offside lines today then.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:15 pm
by Mellsblue
Ollie Lawrence once again showing he is not a clever rugby player.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:15 pm
by Stom
Good from everyone but then Laurence ruined it

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:17 pm
by Insouciant
FFS JVP, what was that kick? That may have been worse than the charge downs. We should a tiny bit of invention running it from the back. This England is so frustrating, there's somethign in there.. but there are a lot of holes.

Was the acronym KADAB under Eddie? Kicking away decent attacking ball. .. Now Marcus is getting in on it.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:19 pm
by Mellsblue
Class from Steward.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:21 pm
by Danno
Shut the FUCK up Austin for once in your life

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:24 pm
by FKAS
Insouciant wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:17 pm FFS JVP, what was that kick? That may have been worse than the charge downs. We should a tiny bit of invention running it from the back.
The tactic is clearly to kick short and contest our bigger back three against their smaller counterparts. It's pretty obvious.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:24 pm
by Insouciant
Danno wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:21 pm Shut the FUCK up Austin for once in your life
I'm watching with French commentary, and whilst I don't understand, at least it's not Austin.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 pm
by francoisfou
Insouciant wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:24 pm
Danno wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:21 pm Shut the FUCK up Austin for once in your life
I'm watching with French commentary, and whilst I don't understand, at least it's not Austin.
What French channel are you watching?

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 pm
by Insouciant
FKAS wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:24 pm
Insouciant wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:17 pm FFS JVP, what was that kick? That may have been worse than the charge downs. We should a tiny bit of invention running it from the back.
The tactic is clearly to kick short and contest our bigger back three against their smaller counterparts. It's pretty obvious.
Yeah I think I referring to that crap kick through on floor that went over the try line miles from any chasers.

Strange first half all things considered. They clearly have power on us but we have had some moments. Our defence needs sorting as they've bust through it way too often already.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 pm
by Mellsblue
FKAS wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:24 pm
Insouciant wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:17 pm FFS JVP, what was that kick? That may have been worse than the charge downs. We should a tiny bit of invention running it from the back.
The tactic is clearly to kick short and contest our bigger back three against their smaller counterparts. It's pretty obvious.
It would need to be for Stupendously Bewildered and the Wigmeister General to come up with it.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 pm
by Stom
Honestly… the fact we’re still in this is something. It’s not been terrible, it’s just that some players have been. Honestly, Genge has been poor, JvP pretty terrible, and Laurence awful. Steward is fine so long as he doesn’t need to defend…which isn’t ideal for a FB.

We’ve not had enough of the ball, but JvPs service has been so poor that it’s hard to judge the backs.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:28 pm
by Insouciant
francoisfou wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 pm
Insouciant wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:24 pm
Danno wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:21 pm Shut the FUCK up Austin for once in your life
I'm watching with French commentary, and whilst I don't understand, at least it's not Austin.
What French channel are you watching?
I think it says .. beIN Sports 1 Direct

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:30 pm
by Oakboy
Insouciant wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:09 pm JVP needs to speed up, good play from Smith etc to clean the situation up.
I've been screaming at JvP to get it out quickly. The only time he did, Underhill scored.

Overall, I'm torn with the new guidelines but if the new approach reduces box kicks I'm happy. One obvious solution for JvP is to use his left foot. If he can't, get him off.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:33 pm
by Oakboy
Slade's superb hands in the first try hardly got a mention.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:34 pm
by Banquo
So- looked up for it, saffers bit rattled, and did a lot of good stuff.

JVP targeted, but messy ball and borderline Eztebeth....that said, he is a charge down waiting to happen.
I have sympathy and praise for Steward; any test back would expect to beat any oppo 1-1 in open field, and he was done by a great step (and the angles all against him) and a great player. He has done a lot well.
Pack going ok in the loose, set piece meh.

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:36 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:33 pm Slade's superb hands in the first try hardly got a mention.
nice hands by slade for 1st try. Bog standard 2 v 1 but take it currently

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:36 pm
by Stom
Oakboy wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:33 pm Slade's superb hands in the first try hardly got a mention.
Slade had a good half all told. Showed intelligence at times, to, which can’t be said for his center partner

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:36 pm
by Danno
Stom wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 pm Honestly… the fact we’re still in this is something. It’s not been terrible, it’s just that some players have been. Honestly, Genge has been poor, JvP pretty terrible, and Laurence awful. Steward is fine so long as he doesn’t need to defend…which isn’t ideal for a FB.

We’ve not had enough of the ball, but JvPs service has been so poor that it’s hard to judge the backs.
We are absolutely shite and the bench has yet to arrive

Re: England vs SA

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:37 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Danno wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:21 pm Shut the FUCK up Austin for once in your life
Saffa commentators here in Sweden...