Justice - US style

[Sandydragon]

That's also been an aspect of TV (& film) brainwashing - gratuitous, glorified violence. Neither has it been by accident. If you're going to make a habit of bombing other countries and reducing them to rubble, then first you need to desensitize your own populace.

You are of course assuming that the US Government controls the content provided by the American film and TV industries.

[rowan]

That's also been an aspect of TV (& film) brainwashing - gratuitous, glorified violence. Neither has it been by accident. If you're going to make a habit of bombing other countries and reducing them to rubble, then first you need to desensitize your own populace.

You are of course assuming that the US Government controls the content provided by the American film and TV industries.

& the rest. As Chomsky has said, any dictatorship would be in awe of the blind obedience the American government receives from its media. What was it? More than 90% of mainstream press and TV news supported the war on Iraq. In fact, a large amount of the content published at the time was coming directly from government sources. I think you would have to be pretty naive to think that governments do not have a great deal of control over their mainstream media. As for Hollywood, its partnership with government is perfectly well-known. It may not be so much a case of the US government controlling media and Hollywood, though, as the same people (big corporations, Military Industrial Complex, etc) controlling both. & it doesn't stop there either. There's also a fair bit of literature out there designed solely to support the American government's warmongering agenda.

[morepork]

Again, it really reaffirms inherent race-based bias.

But race bias that also affects Black American Police Officers it would seem. Its clear that Black americans are more likely to be shot, so the question must be why. Accusing the police of racism doesn't deal with the fact that shootings of latinos or other ethnic groups aren't at the same level as those for blacks, or when black officers shoot black civilians.

What is the reason for the race based discrepancy? There must be one beyind the easily trumpted 'Pigs hate blacks' which doesn't account for ethnic minority officers doing the same as their white counterparts.

Are you suggesting black communities pull their socks up and take personal responsibility for being disproportionately harassed? Fuck man, the police force here is a heavily armed militia that has preconcieved notions of racial "characteristiscs". It's that simple. Muddying the waters with unnecessary fluff about black police officers doesn't change that fact. There is racism all throughout this country. It goes deep. That isn't the question here.The question is what is going to be done about it.

[Sandydragon]

Again, it really reaffirms inherent race-based bias.

But race bias that also affects Black American Police Officers it would seem. Its clear that Black americans are more likely to be shot, so the question must be why. Accusing the police of racism doesn't deal with the fact that shootings of latinos or other ethnic groups aren't at the same level as those for blacks, or when black officers shoot black civilians.

What is the reason for the race based discrepancy? There must be one beyind the easily trumpted 'Pigs hate blacks' which doesn't account for ethnic minority officers doing the same as their white counterparts.

Are you suggesting black communities pull their socks up and take personal responsibility for being disproportionately harassed? Fuck man, the police force here is a heavily armed militia that has preconcieved notions of racial "characteristiscs". It's that simple. Muddying the waters with unnecessary fluff about black police officers doesn't change that fact. There is racism all throughout this country. It goes deep. That isn't the question here.The question is what is going to be done about it.

No I'm not. I'm suggesting that a black police officer is u likely to be racist against other blacks. Just to throw the 'it's cos they are racist' is probably missing a deeper point, even if it makes a nice sound byte.

[morepork]

But race bias that also affects Black American Police Officers it would seem. Its clear that Black americans are more likely to be shot, so the question must be why. Accusing the police of racism doesn't deal with the fact that shootings of latinos or other ethnic groups aren't at the same level as those for blacks, or when black officers shoot black civilians.

What is the reason for the race based discrepancy? There must be one beyind the easily trumpted 'Pigs hate blacks' which doesn't account for ethnic minority officers doing the same as their white counterparts.

Are you suggesting black communities pull their socks up and take personal responsibility for being disproportionately harassed? Fuck man, the police force here is a heavily armed militia that has preconcieved notions of racial "characteristiscs". It's that simple. Muddying the waters with unnecessary fluff about black police officers doesn't change that fact. There is racism all throughout this country. It goes deep. That isn't the question here.The question is what is going to be done about it.

No I'm not. I'm suggesting that a black police officer is u likely to be racist against other blacks. Just to throw the 'it's cos they are racist' is probably missing a deeper point, even if it makes a nice sound byte.

It's a fact. They are racist. That's why they got rid of the Chicago police chief. If you can' acknowledge that, then I can't help you.

[kk67]

That's also been an aspect of TV (& film) brainwashing - gratuitous, glorified violence. Neither has it been by accident. If you're going to make a habit of bombing other countries and reducing them to rubble, then first you need to desensitize your own populace.

Aye. It would seem blydi naïve to subsume the entire era of the lawless west into the current Team America World Police paradigm and yet there it is. (Even the US prediliction for anal sex is born from the land rush when getting preggers was a lot of trouble. Uncle Paddy told me this. [citation required])
The lawless west lasted for 25 years and yet they've been eulogizing it for 80 years and they've transferred that ethos into their military and police services.
Top Gun and Lethal Weapon have a lot to answer for.

[rowan]

The invention of the TV was contrived not for our entertainment but precisely so that governments could control us. George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and many others predicted it - the latter referring to electronic media as 'technodictatorship.' It enters our own homes and spends more than twenty hours a week on average telling us how to think.

[WaspInWales]

That's also been an aspect of TV (& film) brainwashing - gratuitous, glorified violence. Neither has it been by accident. If you're going to make a habit of bombing other countries and reducing them to rubble, then first you need to desensitize your own populace.

Aye. It would seem blydi naïve to subsume the entire era of the lawless west into the current Team America World Police paradigm and yet there it is. (Even the US prediliction for anal sex is born from the land rush when getting preggers was a lot of trouble. Uncle Paddy told me this. [citation required])
The lawless west lasted for 25 years and yet they've been eulogizing it for 80 years and they've transferred that ethos into their military and police services.
Top Gun and Lethal Weapon have a lot to answer for.

Best movies.....ever!!!

[kk67]

That's also been an aspect of TV (& film) brainwashing - gratuitous, glorified violence. Neither has it been by accident. If you're going to make a habit of bombing other countries and reducing them to rubble, then first you need to desensitize your own populace.

Aye. It would seem blydi naïve to subsume the entire era of the lawless west into the current Team America World Police paradigm and yet there it is. (Even the US prediliction for anal sex is born from the land rush when getting preggers was a lot of trouble. Uncle Paddy told me this. [citation required])
The lawless west lasted for 25 years and yet they've been eulogizing it for 80 years and they've transferred that ethos into their military and police services.
Top Gun and Lethal Weapon have a lot to answer for.

Best movies.....ever!!!

It's times like this when I long for Sir Gimpen Frog, Toady and Timmy.....some proper back up.

[WaspInWales]

Aye. It would seem blydi naïve to subsume the entire era of the lawless west into the current Team America World Police paradigm and yet there it is. (Even the US prediliction for anal sex is born from the land rush when getting preggers was a lot of trouble. Uncle Paddy told me this. [citation required])
The lawless west lasted for 25 years and yet they've been eulogizing it for 80 years and they've transferred that ethos into their military and police services.
Top Gun and Lethal Weapon have a lot to answer for.

Best movies.....ever!!!

It's times like this when I long for Sir Gimpen Froggy.....

That reference either precedes me or has gone over my head kk.

[kk67]

Best movies.....ever!!!

It's times like this when I long for Sir Gimpen Froggy.....

That reference either precedes me or has gone over my head kk.

You replied quicker than my edit.

[kk67]

Best movies.....ever!!!

It's times like this when I long for Sir Gimpen Froggy.....

That reference either precedes me or has gone over my head kk.

I think you'll know Toad and Timmy.

[WaspInWales]

It's times like this when I long for Sir Gimpen Froggy.....

That reference either precedes me or has gone over my head kk.

I think you'll know Toad and Timmy.

Yes, but I still don't get it

[Sandydragon]

Are you suggesting black communities pull their socks up and take personal responsibility for being disproportionately harassed? Fuck man, the police force here is a heavily armed militia that has preconcieved notions of racial "characteristiscs". It's that simple. Muddying the waters with unnecessary fluff about black police officers doesn't change that fact. There is racism all throughout this country. It goes deep. That isn't the question here.The question is what is going to be done about it.

No I'm not. I'm suggesting that a black police officer is u likely to be racist against other blacks. Just to throw the 'it's cos they are racist' is probably missing a deeper point, even if it makes a nice sound byte.

It's a fact. They are racist. That's why they got rid of the Chicago police chief. If you can' acknowledge that, then I can't help you.

You still can't explain why a black police office shooting a black man dead is also racist. In a university study, white officers were less likely to shoot black men than Hispanic or black officers. You are reaching for the easy option and that's not the answer for the whole story (accepting that some individual officers are of course racist, but by no means all).

[rowan]

You still can't explain why a black police office shooting a black man dead is also racist. In a university study, white officers were less likely to shoot black men than Hispanic or black officers. You are reaching for the easy option and that's not the answer for the whole story (accepting that some individual officers are of course racist, but by no means all).

Did you imagine ethnic minorities would be any less susceptible to the brainwashing effects of their environment, notably through media and entertainment, than the white majority? I don't see why that would be.

[rowan]

[rowan]

Good story (& video report) here on the whistleblowers within the force and the retaliation they face:

[WaspInWales]

Exactly. Of course it does, but it doesnt fit the narrative of recent times. Plenty of white nutjobs, crackheads, anti-govt, and innocents alike getting shot for failure to comply or whatever. Hispanics too. You just rarely see it being made a lesson or question of excessive force.

That said, I wonder if this would've ended differently if Black Lives Matter were armed and occupying a federal building for weeks?

Good time to revisit the above comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37795012

Acquitted for a 41 day armed takeover of a federal building.

Justice - US style, although I would not recommend any person, or persons of darker skin tone to try a similar line of protest against things that they feel a sense of injustice over.

[jared_7]

Exactly. Of course it does, but it doesnt fit the narrative of recent times. Plenty of white nutjobs, crackheads, anti-govt, and innocents alike getting shot for failure to comply or whatever. Hispanics too. You just rarely see it being made a lesson or question of excessive force.

That said, I wonder if this would've ended differently if Black Lives Matter were armed and occupying a federal building for weeks?

Good time to revisit the above comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37795012

Acquitted for a 41 day armed takeover of a federal building.

Justice - US style, although I would not recommend any person, or persons of darker skin tone to try a similar line of protest against things that they feel a sense of injustice over.

You mean like the Standing Rock Sioux Indians?

[WaspInWales]

That said, I wonder if this would've ended differently if Black Lives Matter were armed and occupying a federal building for weeks?

Good time to revisit the above comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37795012

Acquitted for a 41 day armed takeover of a federal building.

Justice - US style, although I would not recommend any person, or persons of darker skin tone to try a similar line of protest against things that they feel a sense of injustice over.

You mean like the Standing Rock Sioux Indians?

Maybe....are they armed?

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[jared_7]

Good time to revisit the above comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37795012

Acquitted for a 41 day armed takeover of a federal building.

Justice - US style, although I would not recommend any person, or persons of darker skin tone to try a similar line of protest against things that they feel a sense of injustice over.

You mean like the Standing Rock Sioux Indians?

Maybe....are they armed?

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Don't need to be armed if you're a brown boy. In fact, peaceful protesting on your own land is reason enough to bring out the tear gas and rubber bullets.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/27/us/da ... -protests/

[Which Tyler]

Don't need to be armed if you're a brown boy. In fact, peaceful protesting on your own land is reason enough to bring out the tear gas and rubber bullets.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/27/us/da ... -protests/

Rubber bullets? America's going soft!

[WaspInWales]

Don't need to be armed if you're a brown boy. In fact, peaceful protesting on your own land is reason enough to bring out the tear gas and rubber bullets.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/27/us/da ... -protests/

Rubber bullets? America's going soft!

Tipped with sarin.

[rowan]

[Coco]

Exactly. Of course it does, but it doesnt fit the narrative of recent times. Plenty of white nutjobs, crackheads, anti-govt, and innocents alike getting shot for failure to comply or whatever. Hispanics too. You just rarely see it being made a lesson or question of excessive force.

That said, I wonder if this would've ended differently if Black Lives Matter were armed and occupying a federal building for weeks?

Good time to revisit the above comment:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37795012

Acquitted for a 41 day armed takeover of a federal building.

Justice - US style, although I would not recommend any person, or persons of darker skin tone to try a similar line of protest against things that they feel a sense of injustice over.

You realize there are ranchers of every color supporting this? It really isnt a matter of color. This has to do with the feds taking over massive land when this land should be for local or state use. The only person shot dead was a white protester i believe.