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Re: RE: Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:01 pm
by Sandydragon
Digby wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:
Sandydragon wrote: That’s blatantly inciting violence in the current circumstances, not provable but we all know what she is hinting at.

It’s a breach of the Data Protection Act mind. Will she still find it funny if taken to court?
I'm wondering how its not in breach of gdpr?

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She linked to a story given freely by the QC talking about the work they were doing renovating a local landmark, it's morally bankrupt, but I don't know it breaches anything beyond that
If she published personal info, ie name and address then arguably she has.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:52 am
by Banquo
Labour's manifesto will be 'interesting'....

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:08 am
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote:Labour's manifesto will be 'interesting'....
They seem to be angling to be 3rd, or even 4th biggest party.


If the government lose today; can they bump it up to the ECJ?
(joke, by the way, I know they can't; I'd just apreciate teh irony)

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:19 am
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote:
Banquo wrote:Labour's manifesto will be 'interesting'....
They seem to be angling to be 3rd, or even 4th biggest party.


If the government lose today; can they bump it up to the ECJ?
(joke, by the way, I know they can't; I'd just apreciate teh irony)
Huge missed opportunity imo for Labour. However, you never know, maybe enough people will believe what its saying on the tin.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:36 am
by Which Tyler
Unanimous that it IS judiciable (so England's court decision struck down)


Prorogation is NOT the same as recess


Decision to prorogue is UNlawful


Prorogation is declared null and void, it legally has not happened.
It's now up to the speaker's of each house where to go from here.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:47 am
by Which Tyler
Wow, I wasn't expecting that.

I expected unanimous that it was jediciable, majority that it was unlawful, but letting it stand with a slap on the wrist, or putting the ball back in BJ's court; and some guidance for future prorogations 

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:18 am
by Banquo
well wow. Constitution will need writing down now. Though they are at pains to point to it being a 'one-off' decision.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:39 am
by Digby
I wonder if the PM wishes he'd sent in a witness statement now? Will JRM resign having misled the Queen? In theory it's the sort of thing JRM would have serious issue with

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:44 am
by fivepointer
That was some judgment. The Court didnt hold back offering a damning and unanimous verdict.

Johnson should of course resign.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:01 pm
by Digby
Tory MPs are under orders to STFU and wait for the official government position before saying anything, and even then presumably being told they need to rally around that official position

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:09 pm
by Mikey Brown
Is it worth switching the Russia v Samoa game off for this?

Why did they choose Steve Bannon to make the announcement? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:16 pm
by Digby
I'm going out on a limb to say tomorrow will be the most watched PMQs ever, this I feel is a bold statement

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:23 pm
by Which Tyler


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Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:27 pm
by Which Tyler
Digby wrote:I'm going out on a limb to say tomorrow will be the most watched PMQs ever, this I feel is a bold statement
There won't be a PMQ tomorrow - that bit needs 3 days notice

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:35 pm
by Digby
Which Tyler wrote:
Digby wrote:I'm going out on a limb to say tomorrow will be the most watched PMQs ever, this I feel is a bold statement
There won't be a PMQ tomorrow - that bit needs 3 days notice
Oh dear god, did nobody tell them the courts might rule today and they should be ready to go?

Okay then, tomorrow someone is getting summoned by the Speaker to answer an urgent question, could be anybody, maybe even someone called Boris, and that will be a heavily watched event

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:38 pm
by Banquo
He should resign obvs- even if this is imo quite a strange turn of events- for at least the crime of having chronic taste in advisors

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:51 pm
by Digby
Who would be next? Gove, Raab, Mogg?

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:09 pm
by Which Tyler
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Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:20 pm
by Puja
He won't resign. He's from the Trump/Bannon school of brazening it out, where conventions, honour, and shame mean nothing. He'll just keep going and expect that the populace will have forgotten about it 5 minutes later.

I don't see the value in the opposition trying to get him to resign though. Surely no-one wants the next 6 weeks to be wasted on a Conservative leadership contest and, if they were going to do a GNU, they can do that without him resigning.

Puja

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:10 pm
by Stones of granite
Oh to be listening in on to the conversation between BJ and Dominic Cummings, now that DC's strategy is making BJ look like the worst thing for democracy in the UK since Oswald Moseley. It'll be like a scene out of The Thick of It.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:17 pm
by Digby
This may very well do little to the government strategy around Brexit, but it's good news for our democracy that parliament can't be closed to make life easier for the executive

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:31 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Great day. But Boris not out yet. In fact I assume he'll brazen it out, and prorogue again (for a shorter time).

Parliament needs to get rid of him and form a government of national unity. It needs to be taken out of has hands, and indeed out of the hands of this minority government entirely.

If only Labour can show willing......

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:36 pm
by Stones of granite
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Great day. But Boris not out yet. In fact I assume he'll brazen it out, and prorogue again (for a shorter time).

Parliament needs to get rid of him and form a government of national unity. It needs to be taken out of has hands, and indeed out of the hands of this minority government entirely.

If only Labour can show willing......
It's quite amusing watching him, with his 2.1 in classical literature, pronouncing on how all 11 Supreme Court Judges have misapplied the law.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:48 pm
by Stones of granite
Stones of granite wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Great day. But Boris not out yet. In fact I assume he'll brazen it out, and prorogue again (for a shorter time).

Parliament needs to get rid of him and form a government of national unity. It needs to be taken out of has hands, and indeed out of the hands of this minority government entirely.

If only Labour can show willing......
It's quite amusing watching him, with his 2.1 in classical literature, pronouncing on how all 11 Supreme Court Judges have misapplied the law.
ETA: I bet there were some high-fives and smug grins in the Court of Session tea room.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:35 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Stones of granite wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Great day. But Boris not out yet. In fact I assume he'll brazen it out, and prorogue again (for a shorter time).

Parliament needs to get rid of him and form a government of national unity. It needs to be taken out of has hands, and indeed out of the hands of this minority government entirely.

If only Labour can show willing......
It's quite amusing watching him, with his 2.1 in classical literature, pronouncing on how all 11 Supreme Court Judges have misapplied the law.
He deals with it like he deals with everything else. It simply doesn't matter what the problem is, how utterly damning it is for him, he acts like it's just a minor setback... and okay, let's just roll our sleeves up and get back to delivering Brexit on 31st October.

Nothing will stop him short of ... actually stopping him, removing him from power.