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Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:21 pm
by Mikey Brown
Maybe not a massive deal but isn't one of Wilson's big things being great at controlling the ball at the back, would have thought he and Strauss would be the other round but I doubt the game will come down to that.

Same feelings as everyone else with Laidlaw/Berghan/Weir.

Lets hope Jones is up to speed. Shame for Scott.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:22 pm
by Edinburgh in Exile
Weir is the sensible choice, he's plan B if plan A doesn't work. If we had a like for like Flyhalf cover, and the attack wasn't working, we would have nowhere to go. We do that too often.

Team looks good though.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:43 pm
by Cameo
Happy with that. Slightly sceptical about Jones' match fitness and a little worried about the front row but generally good calls. I feel for Barclay but he'll play a part in the tournament

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:53 pm
by switchskier
Pleased that Brown is starting. Ireland are great in the back-row (proper cheating buggers) so think Browns strength over the ball will be important if we're going to get that losing bonus point.

Re: RE: Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:17 pm
by Adder
Mikey Brown wrote:Maybe not a massive deal but isn't one of Wilson's big things being great at controlling the ball at the back, would have thought he and Strauss would be the other round but I doubt the game will come down to that.

Same feelings as everyone else with Laidlaw/Berghan/Weir.

Lets hope Jones is up to speed. Shame for Scott.
Alan Dell is very good at steeling ball as well.
switchskier wrote:Pleased that Brown is starting. Ireland are great in the back-row (proper cheating buggers) so think Browns strength over the ball will be important if we're going to get that losing bonus point.

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Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:24 pm
by hellovating
Ireland: Rob Kearney, Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Robbie Henshaw, Simon Zebo, Paddy Jackson, Conor Murray; Jack McGrath, Rory Best, Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson, Devin Toner, CJ Stander, Sean O’Brien, Jamie Heaslip.

Replacements: Niall Scannell, Cian Healy, John Ryan, Ultan Dillane, Josh van der Flier, Kieran Marmion, Ian Keatley, Tommy Bowe.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:29 pm
by Adder
hellovating wrote:Ireland: Rob Kearney, Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Robbie Henshaw, Simon Zebo, Paddy Jackson, Conor Murray; Jack McGrath, Rory Best, Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson, Devin Toner, CJ Stander, Sean O’Brien, Jamie Heaslip.

Replacements: Niall Scannell, Cian Healy, John Ryan, Ultan Dillane, Josh van der Flier, Kieran Marmion, Ian Keatley, Tommy Bowe.
Scotland 3 - Ireland 200

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:43 pm
by ARM
hellovating wrote:Ireland: Rob Kearney, Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Robbie Henshaw, Simon Zebo, Paddy Jackson, Conor Murray; Jack McGrath, Rory Best, Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson, Devin Toner, CJ Stander, Sean O’Brien, Jamie Heaslip.

Replacements: Niall Scannell, Cian Healy, John Ryan, Ultan Dillane, Josh van der Flier, Kieran Marmion, Ian Keatley, Tommy Bowe.
Looks weak.

Erm...I mean....Help ma boab, we'll be lucky to still be in the game at half time.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:48 pm
by ARM
Like the look of our lot. Our whole front row are auxiliary flankers (mind you the problems could start when it comes to the pushing and shoving bit...) and we've got balance for the lineout.

Think we might get a couple of meat pies on Saturday.

Obviously a couple less than the Irish juggernaut.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:11 pm
by Cameo
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Weir is the sensible choice, he's plan B if plan A doesn't work. If we had a like for like Flyhalf cover, and the attack wasn't working, we would have nowhere to go. We do that too often.

Team looks good though.
That makes sense in theory but in practice I just dont think Weir does provide a Plan B. Even if we were resort to a purely kicking game I would prefer Russell. Weir is probably the only option as backup though and I like the guy so hope he can get some kind of form going

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:33 pm
by Big D
Weir is there in the Price role. Break glass in case of emergency

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:04 pm
by whatisthejava
Think the set piece will be fairly evens but Ireland will smash us in the back row if we let them.

Considering how awesome Munster forwards have been there is 1 in the pack, 2 ulster and 5 Leinster. Now I think Leinster have been pretty good this season they ain't been a patch on Munster in the pack.

I know lots of people rate Henderson but I don't. I think we have a better second row and if we can isolate toner think the Irish line out could be shakey.

Henshaw, Zebo, Murray are all class but I'd like to see us give ringrose a hard time if possible. Also if Keith Earls could fall over and break everything a few mins before kick off that would be awesome but let's be honest they will still try and say we choked him, tacked him or called him a potato munching leprechaun.

Basically what a wee fud

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:43 pm
by Spiffy
whatisthejava wrote:Think the set piece will be fairly evens but Ireland will smash us in the back row if we let them.

Considering how awesome Munster forwards have been there is 1 in the pack, 2 ulster and 5 Leinster. Now I think Leinster have been pretty good this season they ain't been a patch on Munster in the pack.

I know lots of people rate Henderson but I don't. I think we have a better second row and if we can isolate toner think the Irish line out could be shakey.

Henshaw, Zebo, Murray are all class but I'd like to see us give ringrose a hard time if possible. Also if Keith Earls could fall over and break everything a few mins before kick off that would be awesome but let's be honest they will still try and say we choked him, tacked him or called him a potato munching leprechaun.

Basically what a wee fud
His international form is usually good, when he has decent teammates around him. At times he does not shine in a poor Ulster pack on the back foot, where he has too much to do trying to pick up the pieces. Looking forward to the Henderson v. J.Gray head to head. Re. Lineout - Ireland will miss O'Mahony who's a dab hand at nicking opponents ball, but I doubt that the lineout will be the deciding factor.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:56 am
by ARM
Spiffy wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:Think the set piece will be fairly evens but Ireland will smash us in the back row if we let them.

Considering how awesome Munster forwards have been there is 1 in the pack, 2 ulster and 5 Leinster. Now I think Leinster have been pretty good this season they ain't been a patch on Munster in the pack.

I know lots of people rate Henderson but I don't. I think we have a better second row and if we can isolate toner think the Irish line out could be shakey.

Henshaw, Zebo, Murray are all class but I'd like to see us give ringrose a hard time if possible. Also if Keith Earls could fall over and break everything a few mins before kick off that would be awesome but let's be honest they will still try and say we choked him, tacked him or called him a potato munching leprechaun.

Basically what a wee fud
His international form is usually good, when he has decent teammates around him. At times he does not shine in a poor Ulster pack on the back foot, where he has too much to do trying to pick up the pieces. Looking forward to the Henderson v. J.Gray head to head. Re. Lineout - Ireland will miss O'Mahony who's a dab hand at nicking opponents ball, but I doubt that the lineout will be the deciding factor.
Mmm....spiffy....Dull.....AF.....

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:20 pm
by whatisthejava
Spiffy wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:Think the set piece will be fairly evens but Ireland will smash us in the back row if we let them.

Considering how awesome Munster forwards have been there is 1 in the pack, 2 ulster and 5 Leinster. Now I think Leinster have been pretty good this season they ain't been a patch on Munster in the pack.

I know lots of people rate Henderson but I don't. I think we have a better second row and if we can isolate toner think the Irish line out could be shakey.

Henshaw, Zebo, Murray are all class but I'd like to see us give ringrose a hard time if possible. Also if Keith Earls could fall over and break everything a few mins before kick off that would be awesome but let's be honest they will still try and say we choked him, tacked him or called him a potato munching leprechaun.

Basically what a wee fud
His international form is usually good, when he has decent teammates around him. At times he does not shine in a poor Ulster pack on the back foot, where he has too much to do trying to pick up the pieces. Looking forward to the Henderson v. J.Gray head to head. Re. Lineout - Ireland will miss O'Mahony who's a dab hand at nicking opponents ball, but I doubt that the lineout will be the deciding factor.
Thing is eventually you get to the point where you run out of excuses for Henderson, had loads of potential and if he had moved to Leinster or Munster early in his career may have been better than he was but now he just isnt as good

He looks good in an ulster pack because Ulster are not very good but would he even be close to the Irish 23 if you had Cullen, DOC, POC available

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:07 pm
by whatisthejava
I think its only fair we try and target Connor o Murray as much as possible, I want to see him throw a hissy fit especially the blind side and the standing leg, if we can do it in front of Keith Earls all the better

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:00 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
Tunnocks are for poofters.

Re: RE: Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:30 am
by Donny osmond
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Tunnocks are for poofters.
So is the word poofters

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:10 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Quietly optimistic. Win or lose I just hope the lads show the performance they're capable of at international level.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:02 pm
by Matt Ha
Edinburgh loose by one point, U20s loose by one point and the ladies loose owing to a try deep into injury time. Hope a pattern isn't developing.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:57 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Means nothing of course but the BBC poll has us as third favourites to win the 6N.

Re: RE: Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:24 pm
by Big D
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Means nothing of course but the BBC poll has us as third favourites to win the 6N.
People seem to be under estimating the French I think. We rarely win over there. We also rarely win more than 2 games.

I have a bad feeling about this game. Which may be the thought about having to.listen to Nicol.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:31 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Huw Jones looking a wee bit short of match sharpness.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:32 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Ok... that's very concerning. Scrum absolutely demolished.

Re: 6 Nations

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:33 pm
by Len
Good luck to my (sort of) mate Simon on the bench today. Went to school with him. Another Sydenham boy makes good.