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Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:05 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
fivepointer wrote:Ford has a ruptured achilles. He'll be out for months.
I said to my missus that's what he'd done- had a similar one in the same way in my mid 20's, though not a 'rupture'. Him trying to walk on it won't have helped.
I have been present (at squash matches) when two people have snapped achilles tendons. Neither could possibly have walked a single step. Both believed they had been struck from behind, such was the impactful nature of the injury occurring.

Ford's 'rupture' is presumably a partial tear, certainly a nasty injury.

Is rugby unique in allowing seriously injured players to hobble off? The practice ought to be reviewed before somebody gets sued for contributory negligence.
Agreed on all fronts!

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:14 am
by Puja
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
fivepointer wrote:Ford has a ruptured achilles. He'll be out for months.
I said to my missus that's what he'd done- had a similar one in the same way in my mid 20's, though not a 'rupture'. Him trying to walk on it won't have helped.
I have been present (at squash matches) when two people have snapped achilles tendons. Neither could possibly have walked a single step. Both believed they had been struck from behind, such was the impactful nature of the injury occurring.

Ford's 'rupture' is presumably a partial tear, certainly a nasty injury.

Is rugby unique in allowing seriously injured players to hobble off? The practice ought to be reviewed before somebody gets sued for contributory negligence.
I've always thought that. There is a culture of "No, I'm fine, I can tough it out and walk off myself" (it was a mark of how bad Ford's injury was that he even allowed himself to be helped), and it surely exacerbates injuries. Needs changing.

Puja

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:15 am
by Numbers
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
fivepointer wrote:Ford has a ruptured achilles. He'll be out for months.
I said to my missus that's what he'd done- had a similar one in the same way in my mid 20's, though not a 'rupture'. Him trying to walk on it won't have helped.
I have been present (at squash matches) when two people have snapped achilles tendons. Neither could possibly have walked a single step. Both believed they had been struck from behind, such was the impactful nature of the injury occurring.

Ford's 'rupture' is presumably a partial tear, certainly a nasty injury.

Is rugby unique in allowing seriously injured players to hobble off? The practice ought to be reviewed before somebody gets sued for contributory negligence.
Yeah, it won't be a snapped tendon, is it the same leg as last time?

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:34 pm
by Mellsblue
Imagine how many would’ve watched if it had been an entertaining match!

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/p ... ble-season

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:12 am
by fivepointer
Penny has finally dropped that the Premiership (and rugby in general) needs free to air tv coverage to reach a bigger audience and grow.
Who'd have thought it?

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:36 am
by Oakboy
Mellsblue wrote:Imagine how many would’ve watched if it had been an entertaining match!

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/p ... ble-season
Do the massive differences (on the two channels) between average and peak audiences indicate how boring the match was as a spectacle or is that degree of variation normal?

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:41 am
by Oakboy
fivepointer wrote:Penny has finally dropped that the Premiership (and rugby in general) needs free to air tv coverage to reach a bigger audience and grow.
Who'd have thought it?
Agreed but is there/will there be any free to air TV? Without getting into political debate, will the BBC/licence fee situation continue or will everything switch to a form of pay-per-view? I just hope the rugby authorities keep everything under review rather than just short-term cash benefits.

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:25 am
by Mellsblue
Oakboy wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Imagine how many would’ve watched if it had been an entertaining match!

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/p ... ble-season
Do the massive differences (on the two channels) between average and peak audiences indicate how boring the match was as a spectacle or is that degree of variation normal?
Absolutely no idea.

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:26 am
by Mellsblue
fivepointer wrote:Penny has finally dropped that the Premiership (and rugby in general) needs free to air tv coverage to reach a bigger audience and grow.
Who'd have thought it?
Striking the right balance between coin and eyeballs is every minor sport’s issue. Massie-Taylor seems to have done more in six months than his predecessors ever managed, IMO.

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:54 am
by FKAS
Oakboy wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Imagine how many would’ve watched if it had been an entertaining match!

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/p ... ble-season
Do the massive differences (on the two channels) between average and peak audiences indicate how boring the match was as a spectacle or is that degree of variation normal?
I'd expect fairly normal. Plenty of people might skip the pre or post match sections of the show or knowing it was close tune in for the final twenty minutes etc. I don't know the rugby detail but when I've seen TV coverage numbers previously there's normally a jump from average to peak viewers.

Agree about the free to air aspect and the impact of the new chairman. It's the right way to go about it. Rugby is a niche sport, it's not football, we need to make it more available to people to pull them in.

Tinds on his podcast made a good point about the Baabaas game on Sunday. Top tiers of Twickers not open, why were those tickets not given to community sports clubs? Why not have deals through grassroots clubs where when the club buys them you get two free children's tickets for every adult. Pack the place out. RFU missed a chance there.

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:31 am
by Puja
FKAS wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Imagine how many would’ve watched if it had been an entertaining match!

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/p ... ble-season
Do the massive differences (on the two channels) between average and peak audiences indicate how boring the match was as a spectacle or is that degree of variation normal?
I'd expect fairly normal. Plenty of people might skip the pre or post match sections of the show or knowing it was close tune in for the final twenty minutes etc. I don't know the rugby detail but when I've seen TV coverage numbers previously there's normally a jump from average to peak viewers.

Agree about the free to air aspect and the impact of the new chairman. It's the right way to go about it. Rugby is a niche sport, it's not football, we need to make it more available to people to pull them in.

Tinds on his podcast made a good point about the Baabaas game on Sunday. Top tiers of Twickers not open, why were those tickets not given to community sports clubs? Why not have deals through grassroots clubs where when the club buys them you get two free children's tickets for every adult. Pack the place out. RFU missed a chance there.
Mind, having watched that Barbarians game, I'd say that was bullet dodged rather than opportunity missed.

Puja

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:27 am
by FKAS
Puja wrote:
FKAS wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Do the massive differences (on the two channels) between average and peak audiences indicate how boring the match was as a spectacle or is that degree of variation normal?
I'd expect fairly normal. Plenty of people might skip the pre or post match sections of the show or knowing it was close tune in for the final twenty minutes etc. I don't know the rugby detail but when I've seen TV coverage numbers previously there's normally a jump from average to peak viewers.

Agree about the free to air aspect and the impact of the new chairman. It's the right way to go about it. Rugby is a niche sport, it's not football, we need to make it more available to people to pull them in.

Tinds on his podcast made a good point about the Baabaas game on Sunday. Top tiers of Twickers not open, why were those tickets not given to community sports clubs? Why not have deals through grassroots clubs where when the club buys them you get two free children's tickets for every adult. Pack the place out. RFU missed a chance there.
Mind, having watched that Barbarians game, I'd say that was bullet dodged rather than opportunity missed.

Puja
Lots of tries, sun out. Great chance for kids to visit Twickers who might not otherwise have the chance. Result doesn't really matter.

Re: Prem Final Tigers Vs Sarries

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:59 pm
by Danno
fivepointer wrote:Penny has finally dropped that the Premiership (and rugby in general) needs free to air tv coverage to reach a bigger audience and grow.
Who'd have thought it?
It was bonkers not to have the semis on FTA as well. Maybe next year.