RugbyRebels

I was going to do a XV of players with the most caps v All Blacks in each position with a 100% win rate, but then realized that it would just be the 1949 Springboks. See the Stats thread for more on this.

OK, what are the selection criteria here?

1. Mof Myburgh (SA)
2. Jamie George (Eng)
3. Doug Dalton (NZ)
4. Jason Eaton (SA)
5. Sam Strahan (NZ)
6. Jan Ellis (SA)
7. Piet Greyling (SA)
8. Blair Swannell (Lions)
9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (NZ)
10. Piet Visagie (SA)
11. Syd Nomis (SA)
12. Fred Allen (NZ)
13. Eben Oliver (SA)
14. Wally Argus (NZ)
15. Ho de Villiers (SA)

Lizard wrote:OK, what are the selection criteria here?

1. Mof Myburgh (SA)
2. Jamie George (Eng)
3. Doug Dalton (NZ)
4. Jason Eaton (SA)
5. Sam Strahan (NZ)
6. Jan Ellis (SA)
7. Piet Greyling (SA)
8. Blair Swannell (Lions)
9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (NZ)
10. Piet Visagie (SA)
11. Syd Nomis (SA)
12. Fred Allen (NZ)
13. Eben Oliver (SA)
14. Wally Argus (NZ)
15. Ho de Villiers (SA)

Most appearances as a replacement.

Yeah, Jamie George gave that one away immediately.

Puja

I would have guessed Cronin for that one to be honest.

No. A lot of those players are from before replacements were allowed.

Lizard wrote:No. A lot of those players are from before replacements were allowed.

Gosh. I mean, fair point, well made, and strikingly obvious when you put it like that, but I'm stumped as to what else Jamie George tops the stats in, let alone has in common with Tawera Kerr-Barlow.

Good work Liz!

Puja

Hint: which nation is not represented but is of the ilk of those that are?

Most matches against Australia ?

Longest 100% record against Australia?

Puja

Puja wrote:Longest 100% record against Australia?

Puja

This.

Lizard wrote:

Puja wrote:Longest 100% record against Australia?

Puja

This.

Coached by?

Mellsblue wrote:

Lizard wrote:

Puja wrote:Longest 100% record against Australia?

Puja

This.

Coached by?

Possibly Eddie, given the number of times we've played Australia of late.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Lizard wrote: This.

Coached by?

Possibly Eddie, given the number of times we've played Australia of late.

Puja

That was my first thought but it’s probably some Afrikaner born at the turn of the last century.

That’s a bit of a tough one.

Eddie is 6 from 6 which must be up there.


I’m pretty sure no pro era All Blacks coach is undefeated v Aus. Fred Allen was 3 from 3 back in the day, matched by Bob Duff in 1972.

Lizard wrote:That’s a bit of a tough one.

Eddie is 6 from 6 which must be up there.


I’m pretty sure no pro era All Blacks coach is undefeated v Aus. Fred Allen was 3 from 3 back in the day, matched by Bob Duff in 1972.

One thought - did Japan or South Africa play Australia while Eddie was in charge of those?

Puja

Puja wrote:

Lizard wrote:That’s a bit of a tough one.

Eddie is 6 from 6 which must be up there.


I’m pretty sure no pro era All Blacks coach is undefeated v Aus. Fred Allen was 3 from 3 back in the day, matched by Bob Duff in 1972.

One thought - did Japan or South Africa play Australia while Eddie was in charge of those?

Puja

Good point. Eddie was assistant to SA in 2007 when they went 1 from 2 v AU. But I would generally not count assistant roles in considering coaching successes.

Puja wrote:

Lizard wrote:That’s a bit of a tough one.

Eddie is 6 from 6 which must be up there.


I’m pretty sure no pro era All Blacks coach is undefeated v Aus. Fred Allen was 3 from 3 back in the day, matched by Bob Duff in 1972.

One thought - did Japan or South Africa play Australia while Eddie was in charge of those?

Puja

Japan under Eddie Jones never faced Australia.

What is selection criterion here:
(due to limited numbers available, several have been asked to play out of position.)

1. t daly aus
2. j robinson eng
3. t woodcock nz
4. t dusautoir fra
5. o finnegan aus
6. j kirwan  nz
7. m jones nz
8. d pocock aus
9. p berbizier fra/d kirk nz
10. b barrett nz
11. l tuquiri aus
12. m nonu nz
13. t kuridranu aus
14. n milner-scudder nz
15 b tune aus

1 notable nation missing representation.
who and why ..?

South Africa is unrepresented, but it can’t be because the criteria involve them as opposition - David Kirk’s whole career was during their exclusion due to Apartheid.

Something to do with World Cups?

Galfon wrote:What is selection criterion here:
(due to limited numbers available, several have been asked to play out of position.)

1. t daly aus
2. j robinson eng
3. t woodcock nz
4. t dusautoir fra
5. o finnegan aus
6. j kirwan  nz
7. m jones nz
8. d pocock aus
9. p berbizier fra/d kirk nz
10. b barrett nz
11. l tuquiri aus
12. m nonu nz
13. t kuridranu aus
14. n milner-scudder nz
15 b tune aus

1 notable nation missing representation.
who and why ..?

Try scorers in RWC finals. South Africa are excluded because both their victories came from penalties and drop goals.

Robinson at hooker though?!

Puja

Puja wrote:

Galfon wrote:What is selection criterion here:
(due to limited numbers available, several have been asked to play out of position.)

1. t daly aus
2. j robinson eng
3. t woodcock nz
4. t dusautoir fra
5. o finnegan aus
6. j kirwan  nz
7. m jones nz
8. d pocock aus
9. p berbizier fra/d kirk nz
10. b barrett nz
11. l tuquiri aus
12. m nonu nz
13. t kuridranu aus
14. n milner-scudder nz
15 b tune aus

1 notable nation missing representation.
who and why ..?

Try scorers in RWC finals. South Africa are excluded because both their victories came from penalties and drop goals.

Robinson at hooker though?!

Puja

just beat me to it!

Yes..I'm sure Sir Billy would be game for it.
(He was a tough little nut.)
Eng not much better than SA.. yer man the only try-scorer from 3 finals.

Ben Kay only a fumble away from that team, Cueto a lick of paint.

Banquo wrote:Ben Kay only a fumble away from that team, Cueto a dodgy decision

Fixed.