Transfer news, rumours, suggestions, frenzied speculation, and outright lies - Season 2023-24

[FKAS]

England have Wigglesworth enjoying a bit of a roving brief as well with his skills remit. How many assistants coaches do we need?

[Mellsblue]

Another two should do it. One to try and work out what The Wiggler did whilst in camp and one to undertake the work Wiggy should’ve done whilst in camp.

[FKAS]

The Daily Heil are reporting that Wiese turned down Stade Francais seemingly to stay at Tigers but then a deal from an unnamed Japan club came in offering to increase his salary by 50% and it's not like he's not signed an improved deal at Tigers or anything like that either. Sounds like a pretty hefty deal on the table for less rugby prolonging his career.

[Puja]

Youngs signing a 1 year contract extension for next year with Leicester. Good business that - I don't want him for England, but he's still a very good Premiership player and a good influence on the young players coming through.

Apparently, we're supposed to be "announcing further major re-signings in the next fortnight." Hopefully more good news.

Puja

[FKAS]

Youngs signing a 1 year contract extension for next year with Leicester. Good business that - I don't want him for England, but he's still a very good Premiership player and a good influence on the young players coming through.

Apparently, we're supposed to be "announcing further major re-signings in the next fortnight." Hopefully more good news.

Puja

It would be nice to secure some of our bright young talents to longer contracts. Overall the squad is in a pretty good place. Upgrade Cronin at loosehead, maybe add a winger in place of Brown and find a replacement for Weise and we are about set for next season if there's not anymore headline leavers.

[Puja]

Youngs signing a 1 year contract extension for next year with Leicester. Good business that - I don't want him for England, but he's still a very good Premiership player and a good influence on the young players coming through.

Apparently, we're supposed to be "announcing further major re-signings in the next fortnight." Hopefully more good news.

Puja

It would be nice to secure some of our bright young talents to longer contracts. Overall the squad is in a pretty good place. Upgrade Cronin at loosehead, maybe add a winger in place of Brown and find a replacement for Weise and we are about set for next season if there's not anymore headline leavers.

Announced today - George Martin signs a "multi-year contract". Excellent Christmas present!

ETA. And Heyes signs a "long term deal". Less excited about that one than I am Martin, but he's still a useful home-grown player and still has the chance to kick on in future.

Puja

[Banquo]

Youngs signing a 1 year contract extension for next year with Leicester. Good business that - I don't want him for England, but he's still a very good Premiership player and a good influence on the young players coming through.

Apparently, we're supposed to be "announcing further major re-signings in the next fortnight." Hopefully more good news.

Puja

It would be nice to secure some of our bright young talents to longer contracts. Overall the squad is in a pretty good place. Upgrade Cronin at loosehead, maybe add a winger in place of Brown and find a replacement for Weise and we are about set for next season if there's not anymore headline leavers.

Announced today - George Martin signs a "multi-year contract". Excellent Christmas present!

ETA. And Heyes signs a "long term deal". Less excited about that one than I am Martin, but he's still a useful home-grown player and still has the chance to kick on in future.

Puja

There will be a glut of long term deals being signed given the portents for 25/26

[FKAS]

George Martin staying is a big boost. Quality player.

Happy we've secured Heyes as well. He's a good club level tighthead at present. He could play another 10 years as well. I'm still waiting for him to kick on again but at the moment he's a reliable tighthead in all areas which considering some of the average journeymen we went through as back ups to Cole is a step up. I've been impressed by how steady Hurd has looked as well. Good young tightheads in behind Cole.

[Captainhaircut]

Do we think Martin got one of the 25 hybrid contracts? I would hope so…

[Puja]

Do we think Martin got one of the 25 hybrid contracts? I would hope so…

Odd one really - I have faith that he's going to be great, but he is a young player just on the start of an international career and, however promising, those sometimes can fall away (cf. Paul Hill, who was supposed to be England's first choice tighthead for the last 6 years). Is it a sensible idea for England to be giving him a contract for 2+ years (hopefully with the emphasis on the plus), when he's not properly ensconced in the lineup and could fall away in years to come?

That's the one thing I don't like about central contracts - anything long term runs the risk of getting a white elephant who never quite made it. Not that I think there's any danger of that happening to Martin, mind.

I've been impressed by how steady Hurd has looked as well. Good young tightheads in behind Cole.

Agreed. He's been a real bonus this season with how strong he's become in the scrum. Hopefully will push Heyes forward with competition.

Puja

[Captainhaircut]

The challenge with the 25 contracts is really you’re locking yourself down to those 25 being in the 35 man squads for six nations, tours and autumn.

I’d hope Martin is a banker for those squads for a while given the lack of tight locks we have.

[FKAS]

I presumed the RFU hybrid contracts would be on one year rolling deals. Drop out of the squad and the RFU contract top up disappears. Keeps competition very high.

Martin hit the ground running Vs Stade. I'd be surprised if he wasn't in the 6N squad.

[Puja]

James Stokes has found a new place to play after London Irish - he's just turned up on the roster for the new LA franchise in America.

Puja

[FKAS]

Good news for Stokes.

Rumours are that Pollard and Montoya are amongst the next set of Tigers to be announced as having new deals.

Tom Hendrickson confirmed as moving to Japan immediately. Bit of a loss to the Chiefs squad but not massive.

[fivepointer]

[Mikey Brown]

That’s an interesting one with Hastings, Barton and Carerras. I know Carerras is generally first choice 15, but with Hastings just back from injury that’s odd timing.

[Mikey Brown]

Apparently Hastings might be off back to Glasgow though, which I guess would make sense.

It’s also quite funny having all the prominent Atkinsons in one team.

[FKAS]

Atkinson's place kicking has been pretty dodgy at Tigers and after his opening day horror show Vs Bristol he'd fallen down the pecking order. Shame as he's definitely got potential but Tigers have Pollard, Shillcock and Keiran Wilkinson on the books plus some other youngsters in the development squad.

There's some suggestion on the Tigers confirmation of the release that the club wanted to free up some cap space. Might be to retain Mike Brown a bit longer or acquire some better scrum half, hooker or loosehead back up as we've got injuries in those departments.

[Puja]

Really disappointed from a Leicester perspective, as he's such a good player and has such a bright future, so it feels like a horrifying waste to let him go. However, from an England and general rugby fan perspective, he didn't appear to have settled at all at Leicester and wasn't showing anything like the quality that he had at Wasps. He played anonymously at best (and like a drain at worst) in his 25 appearances for Leicester and there was no question that he was behind Pollard and Shillcock on form.

He's a quality player and a fresh start will do him the world of good, especially in an attacking team like Glaws. With Carreras comfortable (and possibly better) at 15, I see him being their first choice 10 in fairly quick succession - he's got the capability to push ahead of Barton and Hastings. Good luck to him and I hope he makes us regret letting him go.

Puja

[FKAS]

He's also a similar player to Carreras as well in that he can play 10 and 15 so he adds to the Glaws preference of being able to play playmakers at both 10 and 15.

[Beasties]

Really disappointed from a Leicester perspective, as he's such a good player and has such a bright future, so it feels like a horrifying waste to let him go. However, from an England and general rugby fan perspective, he didn't appear to have settled at all at Leicester and wasn't showing anything like the quality that he had at Wasps. He played anonymously at best (and like a drain at worst) in his 25 appearances for Leicester and there was no question that he was behind Pollard and Shillcock on form.

He's a quality player and a fresh start will do him the world of good, especially in an attacking team like Glaws. With Carreras comfortable (and possibly better) at 15, I see him being their first choice 10 in fairly quick succession - he's got the capability to push ahead of Barton and Hastings. Good luck to him and I hope he makes us regret letting him go.

Puja

Glad to see you post such a fair summary of his time at Tigers Puja. I feared the worst when he went to Tigers with Pollard arriving, and so it’s panned out with Shillcock also incoming and doing well. Of all the players at Wasps that were available, it was Willis x2 and Atkinson who were the obvious must-gets. He was really starting to purr just prior to Wasps’ collapse. He had a really bad injury and was forced back too soon initially, but thankfully kept gaining fitness, to the point where he looked nailed on for a future Eng career (imo at least).

Big setback for him at Tigers, up to him now. A move was the obvious choice, fingers crossed he can do himself justice from here.
On a separate note, it’s quite galling/depressing seeing so many Wasps youngsters stepping up towards a bright future, Opuku-Fordjour being the latest.

[Banquo]

Really disappointed from a Leicester perspective, as he's such a good player and has such a bright future, so it feels like a horrifying waste to let him go. However, from an England and general rugby fan perspective, he didn't appear to have settled at all at Leicester and wasn't showing anything like the quality that he had at Wasps. He played anonymously at best (and like a drain at worst) in his 25 appearances for Leicester and there was no question that he was behind Pollard and Shillcock on form.

He's a quality player and a fresh start will do him the world of good, especially in an attacking team like Glaws. With Carreras comfortable (and possibly better) at 15, I see him being their first choice 10 in fairly quick succession - he's got the capability to push ahead of Barton and Hastings. Good luck to him and I hope he makes us regret letting him go.

Puja

Glad to see you post such a fair summary of his time at Tigers Puja. I feared the worst when he went to Tigers with Pollard arriving, and so it’s panned out with Shillcock also incoming and doing well. Of all the players at Wasps that were available, it was Willis x2 and Atkinson who were the obvious must-gets. He was really starting to purr just prior to Wasps’ collapse. He had a really bad injury and was forced back too soon initially, but thankfully kept gaining fitness, to the point where he looked nailed on for a future Eng career (imo at least).

Big setback for him at Tigers, up to him now. A move was the obvious choice, fingers crossed he can do himself justice from here.
On a separate note, it’s quite galling/depressing seeing so many Wasps youngsters stepping up towards a bright future, Opuku-Fordjour being the latest.

Young English talent development derail shock

[Mellsblue]

Really disappointed from a Leicester perspective, as he's such a good player and has such a bright future, so it feels like a horrifying waste to let him go. However, from an England and general rugby fan perspective, he didn't appear to have settled at all at Leicester and wasn't showing anything like the quality that he had at Wasps. He played anonymously at best (and like a drain at worst) in his 25 appearances for Leicester and there was no question that he was behind Pollard and Shillcock on form.

He's a quality player and a fresh start will do him the world of good, especially in an attacking team like Glaws. With Carreras comfortable (and possibly better) at 15, I see him being their first choice 10 in fairly quick succession - he's got the capability to push ahead of Barton and Hastings. Good luck to him and I hope he makes us regret letting him go.

Puja

Glad to see you post such a fair summary of his time at Tigers Puja. I feared the worst when he went to Tigers with Pollard arriving, and so it’s panned out with Shillcock also incoming and doing well. Of all the players at Wasps that were available, it was Willis x2 and Atkinson who were the obvious must-gets. He was really starting to purr just prior to Wasps’ collapse. He had a really bad injury and was forced back too soon initially, but thankfully kept gaining fitness, to the point where he looked nailed on for a future Eng career (imo at least).

Big setback for him at Tigers, up to him now. A move was the obvious choice, fingers crossed he can do himself justice from here.
On a separate note, it’s quite galling/depressing seeing so many Wasps youngsters stepping up towards a bright future, Opuku-Fordjour being the latest.

Young English talent development derail shock

You say that but Mike Brown has being getting plenty of game ti… ah, wait…

[Peej]

Really disappointed from a Leicester perspective, as he's such a good player and has such a bright future, so it feels like a horrifying waste to let him go. However, from an England and general rugby fan perspective, he didn't appear to have settled at all at Leicester and wasn't showing anything like the quality that he had at Wasps. He played anonymously at best (and like a drain at worst) in his 25 appearances for Leicester and there was no question that he was behind Pollard and Shillcock on form.

He's a quality player and a fresh start will do him the world of good, especially in an attacking team like Glaws. With Carreras comfortable (and possibly better) at 15, I see him being their first choice 10 in fairly quick succession - he's got the capability to push ahead of Barton and Hastings. Good luck to him and I hope he makes us regret letting him go.

Puja

Glad to see you post such a fair summary of his time at Tigers Puja. I feared the worst when he went to Tigers with Pollard arriving, and so it’s panned out with Shillcock also incoming and doing well. Of all the players at Wasps that were available, it was Willis x2 and Atkinson who were the obvious must-gets. He was really starting to purr just prior to Wasps’ collapse. He had a really bad injury and was forced back too soon initially, but thankfully kept gaining fitness, to the point where he looked nailed on for a future Eng career (imo at least).

Big setback for him at Tigers, up to him now. A move was the obvious choice, fingers crossed he can do himself justice from here.
On a separate note, it’s quite galling/depressing seeing so many Wasps youngsters stepping up towards a bright future, Opuku-Fordjour being the latest.

I get what you mean, Hartley being another. At the same time, would Fisilau be getting to show off as much behind Shields, Willis (T) or Barbeary?

[Which Tyler]

Sanderson sniffing Charlie


Didn't deserve about 2/3 of those caps, and form fell at around the time he was being selected by England, but he's back playing well again now. I suspect Bath will play pretty hard to keep him.