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Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:21 pm
by switchskier
Horne could actually be the best of those signings. I've been really impressed whenever I've seen him. Hes got a good pass and is busy and energetic. Reckon he takes over in two years when price is lured away with Pyrgos staying as the steady option.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:46 pm
by Jps
Maybe I'm just bitter than a promising Scottish talent from Edinburgh is going to Glasgow, who don't really need a stand off, when Edinburgh is regularly starting a welshman and a weegie, neither of whom would be described as inspiring players.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:48 am
by hp18
Jps wrote:Maybe I'm just bitter than a promising Scottish talent from Edinburgh is going to Glasgow, who don't really need a stand off, when Edinburgh is regularly starting a welshman and a weegie, neither of whom would be described as inspiring players.
Exactly how do Glasgow not need a FH?
The Irish list whenever you're ready btw.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:36 pm
by Which Tyler
hp18 wrote:Jps wrote:Hastings headed to Glasgow:
http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/ ... w-warriors
I dunno, it seems we're far to often likely to snap up players who are down in England showing promise rather than waiting til they make some sort of decent breakthrough. The irish often let younger players go abroad then bring them home once they really force their hand.
He's not likely to make a breakthrough at Bath. He's behind Ford (who's being directly replaced iirc) and Priestland, the latter won't be troubling the welsh selectors on a regular basis. Up here it's Finn and Horne, both away for likely every international and with proper rests in between. Hastings will be much better placed to show his worth, and if he does he'll already be under contract here rather than coming with a much higher price tag from daan saarrff.
And who are all these young irish players who go to seek their fortune before their inevitable glorious return?
This
Gavlet is firmly third choice, and next season would have been behind 2 ex-international FHs.
On the one hand, a great place to learn from some quality players; on the other, likely to need injuries to make the bench.
He's a tidy prospect, certainly better than the the last Scottishish FH you had from us (wee-Tam Heathcote); but he's not had the game-time to show what he can bring, so the jury has to be out on his talent level. From what I have seen, I'd expect him to become a solid club-level player, but he's not really shown the glimmer of talent you need to be an international FH. Mind you, Farrell was an international FH for 5 years before showing that same glimmer of talent; whilst Rog went his entire career; so... that probably just shows what I know.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:12 pm
by Jps
hp18 wrote:Jps wrote:Maybe I'm just bitter than a promising Scottish talent from Edinburgh is going to Glasgow, who don't really need a stand off, when Edinburgh is regularly starting a welshman and a weegie, neither of whom would be described as inspiring players.
Exactly how do Glasgow not need a FH?
The Irish list whenever you're ready btw.
Horne seems more than an able deputy to me, and I thought Thomson looked rather handy, albeit in limited action.
Maybe I overstated the Irish, but I was thinking of guys like Downey in time gone by or JJ Hanrahan at Northampton, who is returning to Munster or Brendan Macken at Wasps, who seem to get sent away to learn their trade a bit then come back once they've matured. Or what Connacht did with Eoin Griffin. But maybe I'm totally wrong, and it's just the natural flow of players from a set up that has way more players and prospects than we do, and a larger flow of academy players coming through to push fringe guys out. Plus they used Connacht as a development time for ages- just look at Robbie Henshaw I suppose.
I wasn't suggesting that like BOD or D'arcy had gotten sent off, merely that their exiles don't seem to be brought home if they leave until they can be very handy and are likely starters for their province.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:52 pm
by hp18
Jps wrote:hp18 wrote:Jps wrote:Maybe I'm just bitter than a promising Scottish talent from Edinburgh is going to Glasgow, who don't really need a stand off, when Edinburgh is regularly starting a welshman and a weegie, neither of whom would be described as inspiring players.
Exactly how do Glasgow not need a FH?
The Irish list whenever you're ready btw.
Horne seems more than an able deputy to me, and I thought Thomson looked rather handy, albeit in limited action.
Maybe I overstated the Irish, but I was thinking of guys like Downey in time gone by or JJ Hanrahan at Northampton, who is returning to Munster or Brendan Macken at Wasps, who seem to get sent away to learn their trade a bit then come back once they've matured. Or what Connacht did with Eoin Griffin. But maybe I'm totally wrong, and it's just the natural flow of players from a set up that has way more players and prospects than we do, and a larger flow of academy players coming through to push fringe guys out. Plus they used Connacht as a development time for ages- just look at Robbie Henshaw I suppose.
I wasn't suggesting that like BOD or D'arcy had gotten sent off, merely that their exiles don't seem to be brought home if they leave until they can be very handy and are likely starters for their province.
And when Russell and Horne are with Scotland or the rest periods before/after? Thompson was a loan deal, he's back in SA and is long term contracted.
Downey was a limited player who left Ireland to be a limited player elsewhere before returning to be a limited player for munster. JJH is a very skilled rugby player who couldn't nail a position who went to England to be a very skilled player who couldn't nail a position before signing for munster again etc etc. Macken ain't all that, left Leinster after 5 years and hasn't returned yet.
While Scotland needs guys to head off and get experience at times, the irish ain't using it as a finishing school any which way.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:45 am
by Jps
No you're quite right. I meant more along the lines of, well you're not seeing them sign up exile academy guys when they really need help at a position- Jared Payne for instance was more than a hand hole filler at 15.
But that's the benefit of having four teams I suppose. They use Connacht as a farm, and what a farm it turned in to the last couple of years.
I didn't realise Thompson was back in SA, that's a shame cause he looked pretty handy
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:08 pm
by General Zod
Oh - just seen Ulster drew. Come on, Warriors!
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:12 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
And Ospreys lost...
Still need a hell of a lot of results to go their way but its a faint hope.
I reckon they'll get 5th.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:02 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Another missed touch kick from Russell... pathetic. Given the one that was run back by Sarries was the defining moment in the game last week you'd think he'd have learnt by now.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:21 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Glasgow don't look the same team tonight. Grigg didn't have a suitable support runner just then - normally Glasgow would take contact and recycle it. instead it's flung wildly away in the faint hope it reaches Glasgow hands & they score. Desperate stuff. Where is the patience?
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:28 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
That was brilliant from Seymour - I guess Jones didn't expect him to draw both defenders!
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:39 pm
by Tobylerone
Sadly, It`s the same old story.. Some great stuff, then another cockup..
How often have Glasgow lost key players early on in recent games..?
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:10 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Ashe does so much work around the pitch but he cannot be Strauss's replacement. A big 8 is desperately needed. Ashe's future probably lies at 6.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:20 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
World class. That was an absolute peach.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:37 pm
by ARM
Well that was gash.
Far too many errors again and Munster have our number in the collisions.
Russell was very poor tonight.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:17 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
Both sides seemed hell-bent on gifting the game to the other last night and for all the grunt, fumble and fuck-wittery it was altogether a pretty dismal and utterly predictable spectacle given how well these sides know each other at the arse end of a season in which we've now played each other 4 times. Thank feck for the needle, which we obviously harbour for each other (Ye bunch of thug-Ned feckers) and for single, sublime moments of brilliance from Hogg.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:53 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
I reckon they'll get 5th.
... and finishing any higher than your current 6th is now a fantasy, I think. Even with all 10 points from Zebre and Edinburgh, you'll still need a point from your trip to Leinster to catch up with where Ulster and Scarlets currently sit. I suppose Leinster will be either smarting from a loss in France or looking forward to a European final, but either way I don't fancy anyone's chances of turning them over in Dublin.
Ulster have the bastard of all run-ins and there is a chance they'll lose all three, but I can't imagine they'll come away with nothing. Scarlets have it relatively easy and I can see them overhauling Ospreys, but they'll be fighting over 3rd and 4th on the last day of the regular season and my bet is Ulster will come in 5th and Glasgow 6th.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:56 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
I reckon they'll get 5th.
... and finishing any higher than your current 6th is now a fantasy, I think. Even with all 10 points from Zebre and Edinburgh, you'll still need a point from your trip to Leinster to catch up with where Ulster and Scarlets currently sit. I suppose Leinster will be either smarting from a loss in France or looking forward to a European final, but either way I don't fancy anyone's chances of turning them over in Dublin.
Ulster have the bastard of all run-ins and there is a chance they'll lose all three, but I can't imagine they'll come away with nothing. Scarlets have it relatively easy and I can see them overhauling Ospreys, but they'll be fighting over 3rd and 4th on the last day of the regular season and my bet is Ulster will come in 5th and Glasgow 6th.
Aye, hindsight is a wonderful thing. They needed the result last night and I expected them to get it. They were absolutely awful with the exception of the try of the season from Hogg.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:28 am
by Adder
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:17 am
by Mikey Brown
I can't imagine him going for it but it would be entertaining. Wouldn't be the same with the buzz cut though.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:06 pm
by hp18
Have you clocked his reply to the tweet?
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:07 pm
by hp18
hp18 wrote:Leonardo Sarto will return from injury to face his former club as Glasgow Warriors host Zebre in the Guinness PRO12 this Friday (kick-off 7.35pm). Leonardo Sarto will make his first appearance since October
The Italian international winger has not played for the Warriors since October following shoulder surgery, his last game coming in a Man of the Match performance against Leicester Tigers in the European Rugby Champions Cup.
Sarto has scored three tries in six appearances for Glasgow following his move from Parma last summer and he starts in the back three alongside Rory Hughes and Peter Murchie.
Sam Johnson also returns from injury to start, partnering Nick Grigg in the centres after over a month on the sidelines.
Henry Pyrgos will captain the side at scrum-half with Peter Horne shifting to stand-off to complete the back-line.
18-year-old Matt Fagerson starts at number 8, joined in the back-row by the experienced heads of Rob Harley and Chris Fusaro.
Scott Cummings and Greg Peterson combine in the engine room behind a front row of Alex Allan, Pat MacArthur and D’arcy Rae.
On the bench hooker Cammy Fenton could make his first appearance at Scotstoun and first of the season, while Sean Lamont will look to make an impact following the announcement that he will retire from rugby at the end of the season.
Sean Lamont and George Horne will start on the bench tomorrow nightMore than 7,250 tickets have been sold for the game and the last remaining tickets are available HERE.
Glasgow Warriors head coach Gregor Townsend said: “Leo (Sarto) is excited to be back available and we’re looking forward to seeing him play. He has trained well over the last couple of weeks and it’s great that has made it back before the end of the season.
"The same goes for Greg Peterson and Sam Johnson who are both starting a game for the first time in a while and will be eager to grab this opportunity.
"The players are determined to finish the season on a high, and there is a real enthusiasm throughout the squad to play well in front of our home crowd tomorrow night.
"We will have to be accurate, focused and out-work our opposition, as Zebre come into the game in good form. It should be an excellent challenge for this group of players."
Glasgow Warriors team to play Zebre in the Guinness PRO12 at Scotstoun Stadium, Friday 14 April, live on BBC ALBA (kick-off 7.35pm). You can also follow the action on Twitter @GlasgowWarriors. Glasgow Warriors appearances in brackets:
15. Peter Murchie (115)
14. Leonardo Sarto (6)
13. Nick Grigg (18)
12. Sam Johnson (22)
11. Rory Hughes (31)
10. Peter Horne (112)
9. Henry Pyrgos (122) CAPTAIN
1. Alex Allan (48)
2. Pat MacArthur (152)
3. D’arcy Rae (23)
4. Greg Peterson (20)
5. Scott Cummings (15)
6. Rob Harley (160)
7. Chris Fusaro (123)
8. Matt Fagerson (5)
Replacements
16. Cammy Fenton (1)
17. Jamie Bhatti (5)
18. Sila Puafisi (41)
19. Brian Alainu’uese (14)
20. Lewis Wynne (14)
21. Matt Smith (2)
22. George Horne (2)
23. Sean Lamont (111)
Not available due to injury: Adam Ashe (shoulder), Mark Bennett (knee), Alex Dunbar (head), Zander Fagerson (foot), Simone Favaro (knee), James Malcom (ankle), Josh Strauss (medical), Richie Vernon (achilles) and Ryan Wilson (shoulder).
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:15 pm
by Adder
hp18 wrote:Have you clocked his reply to the tweet?
here we are.
Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:08 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Interesting team. Looks like a goodbye game for Murchie, Lamont, possibly Jonhson and I hope not Big Brian.... I notice that Uanivi is now fit - do you reckon that means he's likely staying or Toony just not giving in to sentiment by giving him a farewell game?