Trump

[morepork]

This guy really needs to just shut the fuck up.

[morepork]

Sweet Jesus.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-40541611

[Lord Lucan]

This guy really needs to just shut the fuck up.

I wish you would Jethro, you're like a broken record now. How do you think Clinton be doing right now? had the old hag been voted in.

[morepork]

What has that got to do with the price of fish?

[WaspInWales]

Sweet Jesus.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-40541611

It's a good job she doesn't get involved in politics.

[Which Tyler]

Surely we're headed for impeachement now...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/p ... idacy.html

WASHINGTON — Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.

...

Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, and Paul J. Manafort, the campaign chairman at the time, also attended the June 2016 meeting in New York. Representatives for Mr. Kushner referred requests for comments back to an earlier statement, which said he had voluntarily disclosed the meeting to the federal government. He has deferred questions on the content of the meeting to Donald Trump Jr.

A spokesman for Mr. Manafort declined to comment.

But at the White House, the deputy press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, was adamant from the briefing room lectern that “the president’s campaign did not collude in any way. Don Jr. did not collude with anybody to influence the election. No one within the Trump campaign colluded in order to influence the election.”

...

Oh, and by way of denial, we have this, from Don Jr

Which.... as far as I can tell, confirms the NYT article, and the worst of the speculation...


So will this start to actually reach Don Sr? or does he still have plausible deniability if his son, son-in-law, and best friend are willing to throw themselves under the bus for him?

For that matter - is this the opening round of a "immunity for dirt" deal from Jr?

[morepork]

Imagine trying to govern effectively around these fucking sea monkeys. How stupid are they?

[J Dory]

Very stupid, but in this particular case, not sure I see anything illegal. Someone offers compromising information on an opponent, you say sure I'll take it, its not like they solicited the information in the first place. If someone offered the Dems dirt on Donald (video of him talking about grabbing women's genitals for example) I'd expect they'd leap at the chance to release it to the media.

Would be interested to hear from our lawyer types on here as to the seriousness of this latest "bombshell".

[morepork]

I don't have much time for either side of the house, but I believe that Al "Earth Boy" Gore received GW Bush's debate notes and brief from some dodgy source and promptly turned them in to the FBI.

It's the whole architecture of incompetence that is so alluring here. They haven't murdered anyone or sold out state secrets, but by fuck their naievity with respect to serial bullshitting is impressive. They, and a whole platoon of priveledged dumb fucks that spunk inherited money away are fodder for dirty money lenders/launderers and you'd put money on them getting filthy money from some dodgy Russian source at some time in the past. It'll be an error of judgement rather than some pantomime treason that does for them eventually. Just look at them slip around in their own shit in the glare of the stage lights. Total fucking muppets.

[Which Tyler]

My understanding is that the illegality comes from the source being an agent of a forien government, rather than a domestic whistle-blower.
My understanding is that this makes it a federal offence - and that the President has the right to pardon anyone accused of a federal offence before or after trial.

They haven't murdered anyone or sold out state secrets, but by fuck their naievity with respect to serial bullshitting is impressive.

Agreed; those they gave away for free.


As for naïveté and incompetence
A bit like Eddie Jones with England - it's starting to look like hiring experienced, competent professionals might actually have been a good idea after all... who knew?

[WaspInWales]

It's a good job Trump Sr didn't know anything about it. That could have been embarrassing.

In other Trump news, I see that some people are attempting to sue Trump over his blocking of users on Twitter. I would say they have little chance of being successful, but Spicer has gone on record to say that Trump's Tweets are official statements by the POTUS, so it will be interesting to see how that goes.

I've often wondered why there seems to be not much in the way of legal opposition to Trump's Tweets. He obviously is entitled to freedom of speech, but he makes so many derogatory remarks about others, as well as unsubstantiated claims which could easily be seen as damaging and libellous.

If the people at the wrong end of the statements he makes take legal action, it's surely down to Trump to prove the statements are correct?

[Sandydragon]

Can he be sued for libel whilst President?

[morepork]

If his people have barred cameras from weekly press briefings and are on the record as classifying his tweeting as official white house communication then it is a potential first amendment issue. His entire family appears unable to grasp the significance of their actions on social media. From the little montages of their jollies overseas to releasing incriminating emails. Utter clowns.

[morepork]

and he just keeps on digging.

[morepork]

Ha Ha!

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Almost as good as

[Mikey Brown]

Golly.

[Mikey Brown]

So, the Trumpets on here going to defend this ongoing healthcare nonsense? This guy really does not give a single fuck about anybody does he.

[Digby]

His suggestion that with the failure of his healthcare plans to date that healthcare will now (a) fail and that (b) he'll not own that failure would be suggestive of the sort of man he is, other than he's already shown he's wholly unsuited to be the leader of almost anything

[Which Tyler]

His suggestion that with the failure of his healthcare plans to date that healthcare will now (a) fail and that (b) he'll not own that failure would be suggestive of the sort of man he is, other than he's already shown he's wholly unsuited to be the leader of almost anything

You're forgetting, it's the Democrats' fault for opposing things whilst in opposition - it's a terrible disloyalty to him personally.
People just shouldn't be allowed to oppose him; it's pretty much never happened to him before; certainly not successful opposition.

[Digby]

His suggestion that with the failure of his healthcare plans to date that healthcare will now (a) fail and that (b) he'll not own that failure would be suggestive of the sort of man he is, other than he's already shown he's wholly unsuited to be the leader of almost anything

You're forgetting, it's the Democrats' fault for opposing things whilst in opposition - it's a terrible disloyalty to him personally.
People just shouldn't be allowed to oppose him; it's pretty much never happened to him before; certainly not successful opposition.

I'd say it's an astonishing piece of thinking that one can disown such an area of government, even if just in comment whilst cross, only it isn't for this cretin.

Though I do think the US would be better off if there were areas the Democrats would look to work with the Republicans on, god knows how that happens with leadership such as Trump and the special interest groups mind.

[morepork]

He is staggeringly incompetent. This thing was drafted as a tax loophole, not a solution to the absurdities of a for-profit health system, and his one job in this was to provide some leadership. Not once has he held any sort of informed briefing to educate either the public or government. This week he was play acting in a firetruck and holding a press side-show for his weird made in america mantra (which itself has been shredded by revelations concerning his fuckwit families use of foreign labour and materials). Just clueless. The main reason the proposed health legislation has failed is because of the phenomenal response of physicians, health care workers, scientists, and patient advocacy groups to the first iteration of this dog of a proposal. This highlighted the shortcomings using metrics of actual health standards. The Trumpet's response? Turn his back on it and refuse to accept any responsibility. Total and utter thundercunt.

[morepork]

I know most on here live on the other side of the pond, and that the trumpet is reality TV entertainment the like of which we have never seen, but behind the headlines is a purging of scientific literacy driven by the puppet masters with their hands up trumps arse. Where is the requisite objectivity to come from in debates such as these? Debates that have consequences quantifiable by currently available methodology.

Fuck this orange cunt, but fuck more the forces behind "his" policy. Jesus christ.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 2e722f1918

[Which Tyler]

My understanding is that this makes it a federal offence - and that the President has the right to pardon anyone accused of a federal offence before or after trial.

[morepork]

He and his toxic fuck trophies are surrounding themselves with rich inexperienced people in anticipation of a raid on the family financial records. Sean Spicer just quit as press secretary in apparent protest at the appointment of yet another dodgy hedge fund manager as communications director.

The circus is definitely in town.

[WaspInWales]

He's certainly draining the swamp.