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Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:36 pm
by morepork
OptimisticJock wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote: I never realised the stats were so high for the yanks. Even ignoring whether ir not they've implemented a TRiM style template that's a disturbing stat.
I was under the impression that they had something, but probably not as participant focused as TRIM. 12 month tours don’t help mind.
Yeah that's true. Even the civvy figures seem higher though.

Some of the rougher parts of cities in the USandA present with youth mental health issues that that mirror combat PTSD.



The NRA successfully lobbied the cessation of funding for gun violence research (insane that this is an actual discipline) in 1996, in large part in response to this study:

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NE ... 0073291506

These parts of these cities are essentially war zones for some kids, and there is a direct correlation between gun prevalence and not only death, but mental health issues as well. How much more of a neon-lit road map to the solution do these cunts need?

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 pm
by OptimisticJock
I'll have a wee look at that at some point

Re: America

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:04 pm
by morepork
I neglected to point out that the funding drought hit the Centres for Disease Control (CDC), which is tasked with addressing health, safety, and security threats to the public. This is a public health issue.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:42 am
by cashead
It has been amusing seeing the Floridian kids who survived the shooting absolutely dunking all over the NRA and their lackeys on social media. Some of them have been fucking savage.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:44 am
by cashead
Also this:





Fuckin' rekt

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:49 am
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:Apparently, there was an armed security guard on duty at this school. When the shooting started, he made a radio call and then waited outside.

So much for that theory then.
The armed guard has resigned without pay, and is now under armed guard at his home there being some concern he himself might now be attacked.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:19 am
by WaspInWales
cashead wrote:It has been amusing seeing the Floridian kids who survived the shooting absolutely dunking all over the NRA and their lackeys on social media. Some of them have been fucking savage.
But the kids are all crisis actors apparently.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:06 pm
by Digby
WaspInWales wrote:
cashead wrote:It has been amusing seeing the Floridian kids who survived the shooting absolutely dunking all over the NRA and their lackeys on social media. Some of them have been fucking savage.
But the kids are all crisis actors apparently.

They're what now?

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:21 pm
by Digby
Digby wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:Apparently, there was an armed security guard on duty at this school. When the shooting started, he made a radio call and then waited outside.

So much for that theory then.
The armed guard has resigned without pay, and is now under armed guard at his home there being some concern he himself might now be attacked.
The deputy has now been told he lacks courage as per one D. Trump, or Cadet Bonespurs to his friends.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:12 pm
by WaspInWales
Digby wrote:
WaspInWales wrote:
cashead wrote:It has been amusing seeing the Floridian kids who survived the shooting absolutely dunking all over the NRA and their lackeys on social media. Some of them have been fucking savage.
But the kids are all crisis actors apparently.
They're what now?
Some people in the US, seemingly right-wing, conservative, NRA supporting types, are suggesting that some of the kids that survived the shooting and then went on to give interviews on TV are crisis actors.

In this instance, it seems to have started after one young lad gave an interview hours after the shooting and stammered some words. Critics say he was obviously forgetting his lines. Then, someone on the internet decided to doctor a page from the school's yearbook which featured the same kid and make it look like he was in a school in California a few years ago and this would make him clearly too old to be at school. I've seen a YouTube video of someone else actually taking the time to find the yearbook from the school where the shooting happened, and the kid is definitely in there, which highlights the lengths some people will go to try to discredit someone who supports gun control. However, the yearbook in question was the 2017 senior year, so some are saying that means he shouldn't have been at the school this year. I'm not sure on how the US school system works, so not sure if that is the case of not. Perhaps MP can clarify that?

The same kid also released a video during the actual event and some are saying the time stated in the video was hours before the attack, which proves (to them) that the attack was planned by the gun control supporting Dems, Soros, libtards and is just another false flag attack.

This line of thought seems to get repeated after such incidents. It has even been suggested survivors and witnesses from shootings and terrorist incidents elsewhere around the globe are also crisis actors.

Amazingly, all the mass shootings in America either didn't happen, or were carried out by the government (when Obama or the Dems were in control), or funded by people supporting left-wing gun control policies, in the hope of forcing a change in gun laws and taking away the 2nd amendment, so that the government can oppress the people...just like what happens everywhere else around the world where strict gun laws are in place :roll:

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:17 pm
by Digby
So a crisis actor is someone who appears after a crisis purporting to have been involved in an incident giving rise to said crisis and is giving comment on what has happened and what should happen, when in reality they're merely a political stooge?

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:20 pm
by WaspInWales
Digby wrote:So a crisis actor is someone who appears after a crisis purporting to have been involved in an incident giving rise to said crisis and is giving comment on what has happened and what should happen, when in reality they're merely a political stooge?
Couldn't have put it better myself.

I may even have to edit my longer explanation above.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:25 pm
by Digby
WaspInWales wrote:
Digby wrote:So a crisis actor is someone who appears after a crisis purporting to have been involved in an incident giving rise to said crisis and is giving comment on what has happened and what should happen, when in reality they're merely a political stooge?
Couldn't have put it better myself.

I may even have to edit my longer explanation above.
I saw one of the students, who I now realise may be a crisis actor, ask Flotus to have a word with her son-in-law about his tweeting and how he'd encouraged hate messages to be sent her way and to her family too. We're fortunate to note at this time in addition to Flotus that Potus is very keen on the truth, what could go wrong

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:33 pm
by WaspInWales
The amount of people who seem to be involved in these conspiracies is astonishing. Kids, parents, teachers, TV networks, press, media, politicians, the shooters (or patsies as they are sometimes known).

Jeez, you'd think there would be some real evidence to support the conspiracies instead of having to doctor images and orchestrating hate campaigns.

Re: America

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:03 pm
by cashead
Paul Manafort and Rick Gates got caught because Manafort had no idea how to convert a pdf to a word document.

Re: America

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:08 am
by Sandydragon
WaspInWales wrote:The amount of people who seem to be involved in these conspiracies is astonishing. Kids, parents, teachers, TV networks, press, media, politicians, the shooters (or patsies as they are sometimes known).

Jeez, you'd think there would be some real evidence to support the conspiracies instead of having to doctor images and orchestrating hate campaigns.
It would make a refreshing change.

Re: America

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:51 pm
by WaspInWales

Re: America

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:55 am
by Mikey Brown
Also I’m not completely understanding this issue of the red flags/photos of the shooter with guns/FBI failure (which obviously you’d hope would be unusual enough to eat some attention) and how that is supposed to be entirely unrelated to the relentless promotion and glorification of guns.

Re: America

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:04 am
by OptimisticJock
Apparently the draft dodger would have run in even without a gun :lol: aye mate.

Re: America

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:49 am
by Stones of granite
OptimisticJock wrote:Apparently the draft dodger would have run in even without a gun :lol: aye mate.
Let's hope he gets a chance to.

Re: America

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:00 am
by Digby
Stones of granite wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Apparently the draft dodger would have run in even without a gun :lol: aye mate.
Let's hope he gets a chance to.
The rest of the world stating doubting his veracity when he got as far as saying he would run

Re: America

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:14 pm
by Which Tyler
What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1E92M1
Reuters wrote:
The Trump administration briefed congressional staff this week on how the White House was considering non-proliferation standards in a potential pact to sell nuclear reactor technology to Saudi Arabia, but did not indicate whether allowing uranium enrichment would be part of any deal, congressional aides said.


Non-proliferation advocates worry that allowing Saudi Arabia to enrich fuel in a nuclear power deal could also enable it to one day covertly produce fissile material and set off an arms race with arch-rival Iran that could spread more broadly throughout the Middle East.

...

Re: America

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:57 am
by Mellsblue
Set off an arms race with Iran?!?!?! If that is a worry, then Iran have made one hell of a false start.

Re: America

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:04 pm
by morepork
I wonder if this is Jared "Peace in the Middle East" Kushner's initiative? The septics have sold a lot of arms to the Saudis over the past year, so fuck, why not tool them up with nukes? I'm sure the citizens of Yemen will be on board the house of Saud peace train. Send Ivanka in with her weird chin and phone sex voice to seal the deal.

Re: America

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:52 pm
by J Dory
Arming teachers is the way forward, just not this guy, he'll be caught in the mental health rejig.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43217142